DPP: (Almost)Anything Goes!

[stripes13.livejournal.com]

HEY IT'S FRIDAY!!!!!!


Throw anything Pilots you want to talk about into a comment. Thinky thoughts, crack, pics, crack, GIFs, crack...(you sensing a theme here? ;P)


Reminder: the ficbattle is still open over HERE, so far we've had a few great submissions!

Comments

[antismiles.livejournal.com]

Okay, this is a really big secret I've been keeping the past couple years, so I'll understand if y'all are surprised by this new revelation. I mean, you would never guess this by just straight-up watching.

You ready? Alright, here it is:

Lee loves Kara.

I KNOW, aren't you shocked? It's HUGE. I'm amazed we didn't pick up on it during the show's run.

[stripes13.livejournal.com]

OMG what, REALLY?!

How did I miss that for so long?!?!?

[antismiles.livejournal.com]

IT WAS SO SUBTLE. I DON'T BLAME PEOPLE FOR NOT REALIZING. IT REALLY WAS SO VERY HARD TO NOTICE.

[baciami2.livejournal.com]

I'm dubious about this. Why do you think so? What proof do you have?

Maybe it isn't love, maybe it's indigestion - gas makes peeps do weird things. Didn't you think Lee's abs looked bloated in some of those nakey scenes? Yup, I think it was all that algae goop.

[stripes13.livejournal.com]

Yep, that was it *nods* it was the algae

[antismiles.livejournal.com]

It's a very difficult side to persuade viewers of, but I assure you, it is true. I have several helpful, informative links I could give you should you require a detailed analysis.

Nah, it can't have been the algae. I picked up on the whole thing before the algae storyline was shown (like, around the first hour mark of the miniseries) so it couldn't have been that.

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

Well, sure, he looked upon her as a sister. Were you even paying attention? Geez, Bill could have told you that! And no one knew his son better than Bill.

They talked about those familial bonds often while bonding over peanuts and/or walnuts. It was very homey, but Kara was never invited.

[antismiles.livejournal.com]

Bill also thought it was cool to pimp his ship out with all those newfangled Cylon gadgets. Clearly, he was suffering a devastating neurological problem. Your point is invalidated.

And Kara was too busy getting the racks ready for her and Lee to frak in to join in on the family bonding time. And the only reason Lee spared time for family bonding was to throw Papadama off his and Kara's trail. SO THERE.

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

Hey...guys...wait a minute...

This crazy, speculative theory has triggered a weird feeling in the back of my head, and now I'm starting to wonder...

Do you think, maybe, like, Kara loved Lee? Or something?

Dudes. This is getting far out.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Wait. Don't you mean that Lee loves Dee? That's what they told us! I am confused. :/

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

So I have a random question, if anyone's interested. It's about the character dynamics right around the Pegasus-Resurrection Ship story arc. Why do you think Admiral Cain reacted so differently to Lee and Kara when it came to their shared insubordination? After having read Bill's logs she seemed equally disdainful of both of them (though perhaps a bit sharper about Lee, given her assumptions about nepotism). But once she sees the Blackbird footage, she promotes the insubordinate pilot who got it and busts the insubordinate superior officer who told her to get it. Why? Is this a genuine emotional and/or tactical assessment of the two people involved, or do you think it's a calculated divide-and-conquer move? Or is it a little bit of both?

Does she expect Lee to be unable to accept working under Kara's command? She seems to react very well to Kara when she meets her in person, and has clearly reread her files to find some common ground she can use to win her over (the Caprica rescue mission). As far as I can tell she never meets Lee in any personal sense, nor has any desire to. She's not trying to win him over, she apparently doesn't see anything worthwhile in him. Why is that, do you think?

Also, I kind of wish we had seen a little bit more of Lee as a subordinate officer to Kara, because I think that would have been very interesting to watch. Do you think they would have worked well that way? Or do you think it would have disrupted the balance of their professional and/or interpersonal relationship?

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

I think quite literally Kara's photos blew her away. She has a line, "Thrace. She took off and did the whole recon mission alone. My gods, look at these shots, Jack. She put her nose right up their backsides and they never even knew it."

I guess after that she finds out about Lee, but Cain is definitely someone who responds more to flashy, fearless actions (and I could see her being less impressed by the quiet behind-the-scenes plotting). Plus, Lee is Adama's son. Kara may be close to him but she's not a direct relative. I'm not sure how much of that relationship Cain could know about. I'm sure divide-and-conquer would be appealing as a motive too but I'd think that's lower on the list.

I do think also that Cain responds more to women in all avenues of her life. Maybe there was some latent attraction there too, (because who doesn't want to frak starbuck?) but more than that, we see her in mentor-ish mode with Shaw, with Gina to a degree, with Kara. I think she just responds to women and wants to engage with women more. She doesn't seem to have much use for the men she deals with.

ETA: I remember being surprised that Lee was a little pissy about "answering to one of his pilots" or whatever. We know he has no issues with a woman leading the way, or even letting Kara lead the way, so I think he would've probably been okay with it after he got over his initial annoyance/disappointment.

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

I like the points you make, here. I hadn't thought about it this way before, but of course from an outsider's point of view it might seem like Lee is more firmly in Adama's camp than Kara just because of their familial relationship (although given that Cain knows he and Kara both mutinied in support of the President, this seems like a sketchy bit of reasoning on her part).

But Kara's actions do seem more independent and daring (jumping to Caprica, busting up Cylon farms and planning to rescue the resistance, flying the Blackbird straight into the Cylon fleet. And although Lee did authorize it, the idea to recon the Cylon fleet alone in the Blackbird came from Kara, not Lee). I could see Cain looking upon Lee as more of an operator, switching sides according to which way the wind seems to be blowing. That's a bad assessment, but I could see her making it. Plus, she has no respect for Roslin, so Lee's links with the President (which I'm sure Bill would have emphasized in his logs from the "picking a side/I have nothing to say to the personal advisor of the President" point onward) would work against him in her view. In fact, most of his independent decisions -- like the way he handled Zarek on the Astral Queen -- would have struck her as dangerous and idiotic.

I kind of suspected there was an element of sexism in Cain's treatment of the men under her command, but it was very subtly played, so I wouldn't attribute too much to it.

And I agree with you on Lee's being basically OK with Kara's promotion. I think what bothered him about it was the same thing that always bothered him, as he later admitted: "You were doing what you always did. Buck authority, and get away with it. I bucked authority once, and I almost lost everything. And here you were, doing it all over again. I dunno ~ it pissed me off. Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?"

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

I remember being surprised that Lee was a little pissy about "answering to one of his pilots" or whatever.

I took that to be more of a joke, with his actual anger directed at being demoted, but I may have rose-colored glasses on where Leland is concerned.

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

I'm in a mood today, so I made this:

[antismiles.livejournal.com]

BUT WHAT DOES HE DISAPPROVE? D:

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

I'm trying not to send him to the people that report to me at work. He disapproves of RL in general.

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

P.S. -- I think your poster may be counterproductive, as I would be happy to break a few regs in order to have Apollo focusing on me with steely-eyed attention.

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

See, you get it! I make these things just for a reason to stare into those eyes!

*sigh*

[stripes13.livejournal.com]

There was something resembling comment fic at the afterparty that amaliak hosted last night. It involved GIFs.....Check it out! (http://amaliak.livejournal.com/86133.html?thread=836469#t836469)

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

And here's a less snarky one, because he looks hot, even if he is a bit grumpy:

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Mmmmm. I like that one!

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

Last one, as I should be working right now:

[kag523.livejournal.com]

Hey Stripes13 - just a shout out to say THANK YOU for hosting DPP, and sorry for not participating at all. You rock! I fail. The end. K :>)