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Date: 2010-08-13 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
Interesting. I think he was angry about the shooting (and especially about her disappearing on him afterwards), but I felt like they dealt with that in their earlier scene -- "You're life's so hard, isn't it?" / "Oh, you mean since I got shot?" -- and when he sees the pain on her face, you can tell that he regrets throwing that in her face. It's a beautiful, silent moment between them, and when she asks if he wants to hear her ideas about the missing pilots and he just looks at her, clearly open to whatever she wants to say, I felt like that was an unspoken agreement between the two of them to move on.

There's a deleted scene from the episode that was supposed to take place a bit later on, where they are arguing about Garner. He says that he knows Garner is making some mistakes, but that she owes the man her respect and support in his efforts to do the best he can in a bad situation, instead of always undermining him and cutting him down infront of the crew. And Kara says she and the crew deserve good leadership and shouldn't be expected to kowtow to people unworthy of the authority they hold. It's one of my favorite arguments between them, actually. Kara clearly wins the overall point, and Lee concedes but he's still inarticulately mad. He clearly thinks it might be because of the residual effects of the shooting, and he actually talks it out, for once: "I know you didn't mean to shoot me, Kara. I know that. I don't know why I'm mad at you. I really don't. I just am."
It's a little bit awful, but also really honest, and I love it.

I read that final scene, where he talks about her bucking authority, as his attempt to get down to some underlying resentments that have been festering for a while. I think he does honestly feel like she goes about things in whatever way she feels like, making life difficult for the people like him who are left to manage her messes and be the middlemen in her conflicts, and that what irritated him in the whole Garner situation was that Kara was right in all her tactical and professional decisions, but so unnecessarily abrasive in her attitude that she sabotaged herself and expected Lee to bail her out and smooth things over. I think he was already mad at her over the shooting (and maybe even over the unresolved mess from Scar), and was seriously not in the mood to do his usual diplomatic schtick. In short, I think there were a lot of issues bundled up in their fight throughout the episode, and I felt like his closing statement to her was honest, even though it wasn't the whole story.

Date: 2010-08-14 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damao2010.livejournal.com
what irritated him in the whole Garner situation was that Kara was right in all her tactical and professional decisions, but so unnecessarily abrasive in her attitude that she sabotaged herself and expected Lee to bail her out and smooth things over. I think he was already mad at her over the shooting (and maybe even over the unresolved mess from Scar), and was seriously not in the mood to do his usual diplomatic schtick. In short, I think there were a lot of issues bundled up in their fight throughout the episode, and I felt like his closing statement to her was honest, even though it wasn't the whole story.

Yes. Definetely. I couldn't agree more. :)

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