DPP: The Voice of Reason

[cynicalshadows.livejournal.com]

So many times the only thing keeping our beloved pilots apart are the pilots themselves. Obviously, someone needs to sit down and talk to them, and that is where you come in. Imagine that you can have one conversation with Kara and one with Lee. What would you say, and when in the series would you say it?

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[utenatai.livejournal.com]

Does slapping them both silly count as "one conversation?"

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

Spike FTW!

[coffeesuperhero.livejournal.com]

SSWA.

[narya86.livejournal.com]

Amen.

[ecstaticdance.livejournal.com]

I think I'd like to sit Kara down when she wakes up The Morning After on New Caprica and give her a little talk about how 1) she's going to destroy Lee if she walks away from him after that night and 2) she really needs to get over herself -- she is not the harbinger of doom, and everything she touches is not necessarily bound to go wrong. Yes, she's made mistakes, but she's got to live with them, and wallowing and denying herself everything isn't going to atone for any of it.

Not that I think any of it would work, but still. Tempting.

Awkward Family Dinner

[kag523.livejournal.com]

Somewhat rambling thought... I grew up in a - for lack of better word – “odd” family. One of the things I loved BEST about it, was that every once in a while (like when my teen sister was hiding a tattoo, or my brother had a bill he couldn't pay, or I had a boyfriend Dad didn’t approve of) that we'd just lay it all out, uncomfortable as it was, at a family dinner, and hash out a solution. No one was allowed to scream; no one was allowed to leave; everyone got to voice their opinion. Icky, unclean and awful sometimes. Proactive and effective? YES. So this is what I'd do:

"Hey, Kara and Lee, I thought we should talk about that thing that happened on New Caprica..." (Everyone looks up from meal. Awkward silence ensues.) "Oh yes, guys, EVERYONE knows what happened." (Sends knowing look to Admiral Adama and Roslin who are looking uncomfortable on the other side of the table. Bill takes off his glasses.)

"So yeah, let's just get that out there. Rip off the bandage if you will. Kara and Lee, you've been in love, since, well, forever -" (shuffling noise as Kara goes to bolt out the door, but I've already posted my buddy Helo there and he drags her back. She’s swearing.) "Nope, seriously, give me a second here Kara... Thanks for sitting down again. And Lee, you can stop giving me that look, ‘cause you know you weren’t free of blame either." (Sam and Dee are now whispering together at the side).

“Anyhow, back to business. You guys slept together. Everyone knows it’s been coming for a long time. Certainly since the whole Colonial Day incident...” (Turns to Sam.) “Sorry darlin’, but that would make you a rebound twice now... and Dee, accepting that it is happening, doesn’t make it any better for you either.” (Shakes head.) “Sorry sweetie. Now why don’t you guys go grab a coffee or something. I’ll send the lawyers by tomorrow at ten.” (Two of the QOD leave.)

“Now, let’s just deal with this here. Bill – I can hear you grumbling – but Zak’s been dead a long time. You’ve got to start giving some support here. Laura, pull your own weight for a change; you know the man listens to you alone. Use that power for good, please. Alright. First thing, Lee, stop trying to make Kara think like YOU think... that’s never gonna work, and I’m surprised that someone as smart as you hasn’t figured that out yet. Next, Kara, for just a moment, give yourself the benefit of the doubt that what you WANT and what you NEED, just might be the same thing... It sounds crazy, but every once in a while, that happens.” (Turns back to the door, where Helo is.)

“Helo, mind grabbing that ambrosia now?” (Turns back to everyone at the table.) “Okay, so let’s get talking about how this can work...”

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[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

*grinning*

I love the no bullshit talk. How fantastic that would be. But, holy crap, I'd pee myself with all of the emotions flying around that room! WHOA!!

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[dipsas.livejournal.com]

Heh. Awesome. You just made my afternoon!

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[rdave1.livejournal.com]

OMG!! YES!! I think this is a great way to get the message across to Lee and Kara. Can you just imagine the horror on their faces when this conversation starts?:D

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[utenatai.livejournal.com]

/thread

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[nazkey.livejournal.com]

Okay. This. Right. Here. Perfect.

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[entaiaime.livejournal.com]

Dude- marry me! =)

This was hilarious...

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

My one conversation would be this and it would be shortly before Maelstrom:

"Kara, your 'destiny' can be whatever you make of it. All that has happened before DOES NOT have to happen again. Free will has power. People can change."

OOPS read the directions wrong. This is what I'd say to Lee and I'd say it in the Final Cut/Flight of the Phoenix time frame.

"Lee, Zak would want you both to be happy. Go and get her and MAKE IT STICK. And convince her beyond a doubt why you want HER specifically, why she's the one that you need and nothing else matters. It's going to be a lot of work, but you'll both be so much better off."

[kag523.livejournal.com]

Your statement: "Kara, your 'destiny' can be whatever you make of it. All that has happened before DOES NOT have to happen again. Free will has power. People can change," is EXACTLY what I kept hoping the writers of BSG would eventually do for her. Loved that line! You've got is PERFECTLY *hugs*

[coffeesuperhero.livejournal.com]

EXCELLENT ADVICE. ALL OF IT. (Somewhat relatedly, the first line of my Big Bang is "All of this has happened before. None of this will happen again.")

ZOMG ICON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

I've been pondering this for a while and I think that any thing I could say would have to be said before Kara goes off to Kobol. For me, that's a real turning point. Until then, it seems like K/L are more typical in their "misunderstandings" of each other.

So the scene is after Lee gets in Kara's face about Baltar and they punch each other.

I'd say to Kara, "Do you know why Lee just freaked out on you? Why he's jealous? Cause he's in love with you. Has been for a very long time. He's being a jerk about it, but don't go off to Kobol before you two make up."

I'd say to Lee, "You frakking moron. Why'd you attack her? Why didn't you tell her why you were so upset instead of acting like a big jerk? Go and talk to her and tell her why you are so pissed off. She hurt you. Tell her how you feel."

Not that I think that'd work, cause it's pilots, but at least it could be a start. :)

[kag523.livejournal.com]

Ahhahahaaaa! I LOVE the image of you strutting up to Lee and calling him a "frakking moron" to his face. OMG that is so awful and hilarious at the same time. PERFECT! (I suddenly want to write THAT scene.)

*falls on floor laughing*

[rdave1.livejournal.com]

Personally, I like utenatai's idea of just slapping them silly. I also wouldn't mind locking them up in a room till they got their shit together. But for talking....

I think I'd talk to Lee on Colonial Day, just tell him to go for it and don't leave her side all night.

As for Kara, it would be Colonial Day but Lee hasn't left her side and she is starting to panic so I'd tell, you deserve to be happy, Lee makes you happy just let yourself be happy and don't over think it.

There would praying on my part that they'd listen to my advise.:) *prays*

[kag523.livejournal.com]

That's so sweet! And yes, I think that would solve EVERYONE'S issues, if that just happened. :>)

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

I love that. Perfect. And the locking them in a room together - that's very important. *awwww...squishes pilots*

[coffeesuperhero.livejournal.com]

Locking them in a room together until they work it out is perfectly legit!

Much Ado About Pilots, 1/???

[coffeesuperhero.livejournal.com]

Okay, so, I love Much Ado About Nothing, right? Right. And I would LOVE to pull a number on Kara and Lee like Don Pedro, Claudio, Leonato, Hero and Ursula pull on Beatrice and Benedick. So, I wrote that. Because I love crack!fic and I love that play, and if BSG were Much Ado, it would have been so much easier to get those two together. ;) I tried to follow the conversations from Acts II & III-- I'm Don Pedro, Boomer is Leonato, Chief is Claudio, Dee is Hero and Felix is Ursula.

ACT I

Kara is behind her Viper when Chief, Boomer and I wallk onto the hanger deck.

Me (as a Viper jock, BRB LOLING FOREVER I WOULD BE THE WORST AT THAT): So, Boomer, what was it you were telling me earlier today? That the CAG is hopelessly in love with Starbuck?

Chief (whispering): You've got the ball! (louder) I didn't think that guy could love anybody. He was a total asshole when he first showed up.

Boomer: I didn't think he would either. Even crazier, he fell for Starbuck. After she told him he'd have to smack her in the mouth to get her to take those stims.

Kara (still hidden): For frakking real?

Boomer: Honestly, I don't know what else to say, but he really loves her. I know, I know. It sounds nuts.

Me: Maybe he's just having us on.

Chief: Could be.

Boomer: Having us on? Frak no! He's definitely in love with her.

Me: Well, how do you know?

Chief (whispering): Do it right and we've got her!

Boomer: How do I know? Well, you heard Chief. He just does.

Chief: He sure does.

Me: How do you know, though? This is frakking crazy. I wouldn't have thought he loved anybody.

Boomer: I would have said the same thing, especially about Starbuck.

Kara (still hidden): This has got to be a frakking joke. But Boomer has such a shitty triad face! Maybe she's telling the truth?

Chief (whispering): You've got her, you've got her, keep going!

Me: Well, has he told her?

Boomer: No, and he swears he won't, it's driving him crazy.

Chief: Yeah. He's all, (impersonates Lee) "After everything that's happened with Zak, how can I tell her that I love her?" It's getting old.

Boomer: Gods, yeah, I hear he keeps trying to write her a frakking letter. Like, he'll stay up all night and just sit in the ready room writing and writing. And then he'll tear the letter into pieces and be all, "How can I be such an idiot! I know if she told me she loved me I'd probably just be an asshole to her like I always am, but I love her!"

Chief: Then he actually falls down on his knees and cries. (impersonates Lee) "Oh my darling Kara! Gods give me patience!"

(we all crack up)

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[coffeesuperhero.livejournal.com]

Boomer: He totally does. One of the pilots caught him. They're actually a little afraid that he'll do something stupid.

Me: Well, maybe it's a good idea for us to tell her, if he won't.

Chief: Why the frak would you do that? She'll just make fun of him, and that'll be worse.

Me: (sigh) You're probably right. It's too bad, really. He seems like a nice guy. And he's frakking smoking hot.

Chief: And smart, too.

Me: Yeah, except for being so in love with Kara.

Boomer: Well, when it comes to Kara, you sure as hell know that the brain between his ears isn't gonna win out. Really does suck for him, though.

Me: Too bad he's not interested in anybody else. I'd show him a good time, if you know what I mean. Seriously, though, Boomer: tell her about it, and just see what she says. You know her pretty well.

Boomer: You really think that's a good idea?

Chief: He says he'll die if she doesn't love him, and he'll die before he tells her that he loves her, and he'll die if she tells him that she loves him, because of all the frakking history between 'em, or whatever. It's bullshit.

Me: Well, like we said. Probably she'd just make fun of him. She can be such a frakking moron.

Chief: Yeah, but she's a damn good pilot.

Me: True. Best I've ever seen.

Chief: Gods' honest truth. And really frakking smart.

Me: Even if she doesn't want you to know it.

Chief: And brave.

Me: As brave as frakking Hercules. Punching out the XO like that. Well, I feel sorry for the CAG. Should we go find Kara and tell her?

Chief: I say we keep our traps shut. Let him make up his own damn mind.

Boomer: He may lose his damn mind before he does that.

Me: Well, we'll talk about it later. I've got a lot of respect for Starbuck, and I wish she'd consider hearing him out, at least. They deserve something to be happy about, at the end of the frakking worlds.

Boomer: So say we all.

Chief (whispering): If she doesn't fall for that, I'll drink Viper fuel.

Me: (whispering) Let's get somebody to do the same thing for him. I think Felix and Dee are game. And let's get Lee to tell her that we're starting a triad game and she's invited.

Kara steps out from behind the Viper.

Kara: Are they frakking joking? Lords, I don't even know. Boomer actually sounded... sad. They feel sorry for him? Somebody actually saw him writing me a love letter?! Well. That's just bullshit. I mean, it's me. And it's Lee. And for frak's sake, it's not like I'd mock him all over Galactica if he actually...I'm not that much of a jackass. I mean, I'd probably make fun of him a little. But...godsdamn it, Lee Adama. I mean, she's right, he's not bad to look at, and he's nice enough when he's not getting feelings all over you, but... I mean... it's Lee. And after Zak... but maybe they're right. Maybe we deserve to be happy at the end of frakking everything. Or at least we deserve to get laid. Oh, shit, here he comes. Why is he looking at me like that? Maybe he really does... love me.

Lee: They sent me to tell you there's a triad game, but I can't play. I've got to make the flight roster.

Kara: Hey, Lee. Uh, thanks for telling me.

Lee: No problem. I was heading this way.

Kara: Oh. Good. I mean, no trouble, then.

Lee: Uh, sure. Well, see you. (Lee exits)

Kara: How about that? "They sent me to tell there's a triad game, but I can't play." Riiiiiiight. I'm onto you, you moron. (She smiles) Lee Adama loves me.

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

It's Colonial Day. Everybody can see where things are headed. Kara's dressed to the nines. Lee can't seem to keep the drool off his chin. They're dancing. EVERYONE CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS HEADING.

I am a Viper pilot (my story and I'm sticking to it), hanging out at the party with them. I notice more than just the obvious, because I'm observant and shit. I can see Lee's moony eyes. And I can see Kara's slightly panicked ones. This is a job for a strategically-called group trip to the ladies room.

*waves a hand in the universal sign for who's coming with me*

Kara balks at first. She may be in a dress, but the traveling in packs doesn't come naturally. I lean in and give her the old, "You too."

As we are longtime Triad buddies, I immediately cut the crap upon entering the head. I grab her by the arm and pull her aside, just inside the door. "OK. Seriously? What is the problem out there?"

Her eyes flash panic before she narrows them, asking, "What the frak are you talking about?"

"You. Lee. You looking like you might bolt. Take a deep breath and try to explain to me what's got you spooked."

She looks at her shoes a moment before giving up and unloading on me in fits of words. "Gods... it's Lee. Oh, and Zak. I mean... This is pretty frakked up."

I cut her off with a hand in the air. "Enough. Zak's been dead a long time. Lee isn't. And he's making goo-goo eyes out there at you. Go drag him out of here while the night is young. Maybe there's still a hotel room on this ship. Go and see what happens and worry about the rest of it later."

And then, because I am so persuasive, she squares her shoulders and marches out to where we left him on the dance floor, grabs his hand, and whispers something I can't hear in his ear that makes him blush a bright red and excuse them both.

No Baltar. Problem solved. :)

[rdave1.livejournal.com]

This works for me! *shakes head in agreement* :D