DPP: Vent at Joe's Bar

[rayruz.livejournal.com]

Hey, I know I said I was going to post a two day thing? Eh... I changed my mind! :D I'm not sure if we've done this one before but I figured I'm going to go for it anyways. Tomorrow's post is going to come a little bit late in the day and I might do the two-day challenge then, because it's a little involved and takes a bit more time.

Anyways, what are we venting at Joe's about? 

Unpopular Pilots (and other Fandom) Opinions.

I thought some of these might be coming up since we've been thinking so much about the scenes and the voting. Ever feel alone in what you think? Are you afraid to speak your mind sometimes because the other shippers don't agree with your opinion? Well pull up a barstool, get a drink, and spill it. Bartenders are, of course, the everyman's therapist.

Comments

[zenzero42.livejournal.com]

1. I don't hate the poof, it broke my heart but I also loved it. I think that concluded very well Kara's journey, the journey of the hero.

2. I also loved Kara/Lee flashbacks because for me prove that Kara and Lee were meant to each other, that their love was star-crossed, that their love was epic... and of course it ended badly because that is what epic loves do.

3. I adore Adama. He is, after kara, my favourite character ever. I adore the father/daughter relationship between him and kara. I think that he loved Kara as her one daughter, even more than Lee, because Kara is like him in a lots of ways, while Lee is a very different kind of person. I think that Adama was an imperfect father but that he loved her with no limits. the point is that I love bsg characters becouse they are full of flaws (look at kara!) and I really don't get why people hate him.

3a. I love the tough scenes between Kara and Adama even more than that sweet ones because for me in the galactica-verse to hurt each others means to love each others.

4. I screamed for the joy when Dee shot herself. Really. I hated her because she wanted to steal Kara's life, trying to have the Adama men love (failing of course!).

5. I think that Caroline was a pretty good mother, not perfect but definitely not the abusive alcoholic the people seem to think. That was Socrata, a completely different order of magnitude. Lee is not an abused child at all. for me that episode was just poor writing, I also remember an interview in which Jamie said the same thing.

[da-angel729.livejournal.com]

About your #2...

I hate Adama. Hate, hate, hate. A lot of it has to do with my absolute love for Lee, and how Adama treats him (I'm not going to even pretend to be impartial) like he's not good enough. I know why he does it (because he really doesn't understand Lee and Lee can be just as awful to him-I do love their relationship) but I just hate it.

But the rest of it is because I find Adama to be an appalling military commander. He's way too close to his crew, and anytime someone disagrees with him it's a personal betrayal and he reacts accordingly. He's very selfish, and as a CO you can't be that way: you have to think of others first. Everything is "ME, ME, ME" with Adama, especially in the later seasons.

I do get why people like him (he is actually a fundamentally good person and he does have his moments where I have liked him (though those were earlier seasons) but I just can't.

I agree about your #5.

[zenzero42.livejournal.com]

you are right, he can be very selfish. but this is why I loved him in first place: in YCGHA when he risked all the fleet to save Kara, well, in that moment he was my hero, and i never stoped to love him.

about his selfishness I adore this scene (from the extended version of daybreack) in which Kara tells him wat he deserve to hear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk50peGtT2s

awesome moment between the two of them, the moment in which the child make the parent a better person.