[identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] no_takebacks
Hey, I know I said I was going to post a two day thing? Eh... I changed my mind! :D I'm not sure if we've done this one before but I figured I'm going to go for it anyways. Tomorrow's post is going to come a little bit late in the day and I might do the two-day challenge then, because it's a little involved and takes a bit more time.

Anyways, what are we venting at Joe's about? 

Unpopular Pilots (and other Fandom) Opinions.

I thought some of these might be coming up since we've been thinking so much about the scenes and the voting. Ever feel alone in what you think? Are you afraid to speak your mind sometimes because the other shippers don't agree with your opinion? Well pull up a barstool, get a drink, and spill it. Bartenders are, of course, the everyman's therapist.

Date: 2010-05-27 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shah-of-blah.livejournal.com
I realized I have a third unpopular opinion, and it may be the most unpopular of them all. I don't think the pigeon metaphor is as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Now, hear me out. What it essentially says is that Kara flew into his life unexpectedly--he opens his eyes one moment and she's there--and he can neither catch her nor get rid of her. And in another moment she leaves his life the same way she entered it. And, well, that's pretty accurate.

Or more simply, Kara is and has always been beyond Lee's control. I don't think that's so bad. What I do think is bad is substituting this metaphor--which is neither very complicated nor very deep--for actual character development. You know. Kara could have chosen to stay.

Date: 2010-05-27 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com
What it essentially says is that Kara flew into his life unexpectedly--he opens his eyes one moment and she's there--and he can neither catch her nor get rid of her. And in another moment she leaves his life the same way she entered it. And, well, that's pretty accurate.

Holy frak! You made it work! Wow.

Date: 2010-05-27 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
Back to the "choice" issue that makes me write three chapters of fanfic a night trying to exorcise the *poof*

Maybe my unpopular "issue" is that I just cannot get PAST my annoyance with Kara's final scene. I mean, is this normal? Is this healthy? LOL

Date: 2010-05-28 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latteaddict.livejournal.com
I get what you're saying, Kara certainly was beyond Lee's control - always - but the part in the pigeon metaphor that irks me is the fact that Lee expends all this energy trying to get rid of her. Like an unwanted pest. The bird wasn't even beautiful, it was common, big and ungainly. And the fact RDM admits he came up with the concept in the shower but had no idea which characters it was for makes me detest it even more.

Date: 2010-05-28 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damao2010.livejournal.com
To be absolutely honest, most of the time I don't even remember there as a pigeon there. I never really got that scene. I never thought of it as a metaphor for Kara in anyway (or for anything for that matter). Since I am quite new here and only got hooked on the show after it had ended, it really surprised me to see that that scene was supposed to mean something.

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