Daily Pilots Post

[dramaturgca.livejournal.com]

Wow, you guys are brilliant and the conversation this week has been awesome. It's been great hosting this week of DPP and I'm looking forward to my next turn in August.

To close out this DPP week, it's a Free-For-All! What do you want to say to K/L shippers? To the pilots themselves? To the world at large?

I would like to say thank you to this amazing community who welcomed me in and I hope we keep going strong. After all, there's a million and one things we haven't written yet!

Comments

Re: Ten Million Points... but should some of them be dropped on the instant recall?

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

That's pretty much the take we have to have to remain shippers, right? ;)

Re: Ten Million Points... but should some of them be dropped on the instant recall?

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

Hee! Well, as shippers I think we can probably agree that something like this is what Lee was *trying* to say. How well he conveyed his meaning is certainly open to question :)

From Kara's reaction to him in that scene, I always thought that she basically understood him and accepted what he was trying to explain about his own messed-up decisions and feelings and past behavior. I thought that her running the next morning was motivated not so much because she distrusted his switch-over from Dee to her, but because of her 'I am a world-class frak-up and if I let myself try this it will destroy us both' attitude. I think you and others have pointed out that Lee needed not just to reassure her about his own feelings, but to reassure her specifically about her self-worth and all the things that made her incredible and not a frak-up -- he needed to help her trust herself and her own feelings, as well as to trust him.

But it's pretty clear that he didn't understand how much she needed that; he thought the key thing was to make her understand how much he loved her, and he didn't realize she might still think he was wrong to do so. It was just so foreign to his own way of thinking and feeling -- once he believed she loved him (and I think he took their love making as the confirmation they'd never been capable of reaching before), he never thought for one second of questioning whether she should, or of renouncing those feelings, or of pushing her away. For him, "she loves me" = bliss. That's part of why he was so blind-sided the next morning, I think.

So there was a lot more that he should have tried to say to her and to understand about her. But, even if he'd said more that night, would that really have made the difference? I'm not sure that there was anything he could have said that would have overcome those deep-rooted instincts and fears about herself that her mother (in life) and Zak (in death) had both confirmed for her. I think she had a lot more healing to do before she would be ready to allow herself true happiness.

Anyhow...we'll probably never get to the bottom of what exactly went wrong on New Caprica, but it does provide a lot of food for shippery thought!

Re: Ten Million Points... but should some of them be dropped on the instant recall?

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I can't even imagine that night ever turning out differently. That's not to say I like what happened at all, it just...I have a blind spot in that I cannot come up with a suitable alternate course of events that truly feels in character. Someone prompted me once to write it where Kara stays and I just couldn't. Because I agree that not enough work is done beforehand on their relationship or on her own issues, that would let her stay.

Re: Ten Million Points... but should some of them be dropped on the instant recall?

[damao2010.livejournal.com]

I agree with you that not enough work had been done on their relationship or on her issues. But perhaps you could write a scenario in which she does leave but doesn't marry Sam. Plenty of angst and hurt feeling there. Lots of room for personal growth on both their sides but no burnt bridges and no quadrangle of doom.

Re: Ten Million Points... but should some of them be dropped on the instant recall?

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

Someone wrote one (Wisteria maybe?) where she leaves both Lee and Sam planetside and goes back up to fly. :)