Daily Pilots Post

[dramaturgca.livejournal.com]

Wow, you guys are brilliant and the conversation this week has been awesome. It's been great hosting this week of DPP and I'm looking forward to my next turn in August.

To close out this DPP week, it's a Free-For-All! What do you want to say to K/L shippers? To the pilots themselves? To the world at large?

I would like to say thank you to this amazing community who welcomed me in and I hope we keep going strong. After all, there's a million and one things we haven't written yet!

Comments

[damao2010.livejournal.com]

First, let me say I loved your icon.*swoons* He's so blond, but so handsome!Hee. I guess it's the smile. It's so adorable. :D

Now about you comment regarding the UB line. I assume you are talking about this one:""Knows when to hold back, when to make his move."

Well, it was obviously a jab at Lee. She definetely wanted to get a rise out of him. She was being really nasty about it, if you ask me.

As often happens in situations like that, when people are spoiling for a fight, harsh things are said. There is usually a grain of truth in what is said, but it is also usually distorted to serve one's purpose. When people come to that point, rationality has left the house and only raw emotions are there to do the "talking".

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that yes,he could have made his move before that night on NC, he certainly could have created an opportunity for that and he probably could have chosen a better moment. So there is some truth in that statement. But I don't think it was entirely fair of her for several reasons.

First, because Kara is not the kind of girl who simply sits around waiting for a guy to make his move. She is not that passive in any aspect of her life and one would assume for the several references to her sleeping around habits that that would be true for her love life as well. In fact, she seems to be much more straightforward than him most of the time. Under normal circumstances, she wouldn't resent his lack of initiative because she would be the one to initiate things. And she did initiate them at least a couple of times that we know of: the near frak on the table dare, the near frak in the bunkroom in Scar.

Second, because the few times they seemed to get closer, she did something to reject him. For example: they seemed to have shared a moment during the party on Colonial Day, back on season 1, and she slept with Baltar the very same night. Another example: her "there is nothing here" in Scar followed by her stating she just wanted to use him for sex (as she ended up doing more than once with Sam later, by the way) or the way she threw her relationship with Sam to his face right after he was rescued from Caprica.

When a very assertive woman, one who always goes after what she wants (she fought really hard to convince Adama and Roslin to send a rescue mission to Caprica)and takes no bullshit from anyone tells you to your face that she doesn't love you and that she is pining for someone else, what should you do? Should you pursue her and try to get in the way of her perceived happiness/desire or should you respect that? Of course there is a way to defend both positions and there is no absolute right or wrong answer here. There are just different people with different personalities and backgrounds.

So, what I'm trying to say is that though there was some truth to her jab, it wasn't the whole truth. She wasn't being really fair in my opinion and I guess, deep down, she didn't even believe that. She was simply unhappy with her life at that point, she was in a bad place and she wanted to hurt him as she was hurting. Pretty like she said to Sam once.

I think in the overall theme in UB was summarized in Roslin's line to Adama: they were living in borrowed time. They had got a reprieve from the fight but there were no garantees it would last and everyone was trying to get something out of if while they still able to. That was why so many people decided to leave Galactica and settle on the planet, that is why Adama agreed to let Galen and Cally and Starbuck leave, that is why Lee had his epiphany and poured his heart out to Kara and that was why Dee accepted his marriage proposal knowing beforehand it wouldn't last.

The whole thing is pretty tragic but there is not only one person to blame. Lee's "let's call it a tie" was just perfect. There were no winners on the boxing fight as well as there were no winners in their fight to assign blame for what had gone wrong in their relationship back on NC. The truth does sting, but it stings them both the same way.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Yes yes yes to all of this. No - she was not being fair and in all truth was being incredibly mean to Lee to get a rise out of him. Their timing was always MUTUALLY off in my opinion and she was just as guilty as he was for frakking things up. I mean, okay, so decide you don't want to be with Lee after a one night frak when you're already in a relationship, but DON'T frakking marry the guy. B-R-U-T-A-L. Agh.

Sorry, no coherent thought on this tonight, bb. Makes me so mad! :D:D:D