DPP: Chemistry 101
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ninjamonkey73, and I'm driving the DPP bus this week. Sit back and enjoy the ride...
I'd like to start the week off with an academic bang. Today, I'd like to talk about Sternberg's Triangular Theory of Love (inspired by my link surfing problem at Wikipedia). Let's discuss what makes our pilots light up the screen and hold our attention more than a year after the finale.
Excerpted from Wikipedia:
The triangular theory of love is a theory of love developed by psychologist Robert Sternberg. The theory characterizes love within the context of interpersonal relationships by three different components:
The "amount" of love one experiences depends on the absolute strength of these three components; the "type" of love one experiences depends on their strengths relative to each other. Different stages and types of love can be explained as different combinations of these three elements; for example, the relative emphasis of each component changes over time as an adult romantic relationship develops. A relationship based on a single element is less likely to survive than one based on two or three elements.
For me, I think Lee and Kara fall into the Romantic Love category. They had a bond (intimacy of the nonsexual kind) and certainly some UST/passion, but the commitment part of the triangle just never made it. Or when it did, they swung over to Companionate Love and toned down the UST.
So, nation, I ask you: How do you see Lee and Kara with regards to Sternberg's Triangular Theory of Love? Feel free to answer differently for different story arcs. And I'm never opposed to photographic evidence, where useful. You can also go off on "hot people are hot" tangents and skip the psychology entirely, if your idea of Katee's and Jamie's onscreen fireworks isn't at all scientific. ;)
ninjamonkey73, and I'm driving the DPP bus this week. Sit back and enjoy the ride...I'd like to start the week off with an academic bang. Today, I'd like to talk about Sternberg's Triangular Theory of Love (inspired by my link surfing problem at Wikipedia). Let's discuss what makes our pilots light up the screen and hold our attention more than a year after the finale.
Excerpted from Wikipedia:
The triangular theory of love is a theory of love developed by psychologist Robert Sternberg. The theory characterizes love within the context of interpersonal relationships by three different components:
- Intimacy - Which encompasses feelings of closeness, connectedness, and bondedness.
- Passion - Which encompasses drives that lead to romance, physical attraction, and sexual consummation.
- Commitment - Which encompasses, in the short term, the decision to remain with another, and in the long term, the shared achievements and plans made with that other.
The "amount" of love one experiences depends on the absolute strength of these three components; the "type" of love one experiences depends on their strengths relative to each other. Different stages and types of love can be explained as different combinations of these three elements; for example, the relative emphasis of each component changes over time as an adult romantic relationship develops. A relationship based on a single element is less likely to survive than one based on two or three elements.
For me, I think Lee and Kara fall into the Romantic Love category. They had a bond (intimacy of the nonsexual kind) and certainly some UST/passion, but the commitment part of the triangle just never made it. Or when it did, they swung over to Companionate Love and toned down the UST.
So, nation, I ask you: How do you see Lee and Kara with regards to Sternberg's Triangular Theory of Love? Feel free to answer differently for different story arcs. And I'm never opposed to photographic evidence, where useful. You can also go off on "hot people are hot" tangents and skip the psychology entirely, if your idea of Katee's and Jamie's onscreen fireworks isn't at all scientific. ;)
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Date: 2010-06-14 01:11 pm (UTC)But seriously, I feel like they have all of these things--YES, EVEN COMMITMENT. It's not a traditional marriage or dating commitment, but I think their level of commitment comes in through their working side/family side. Over and over they show how committed they are to supporting each other (like the mission to assassinate Cain or Under the Wing or end of Scar), to saving each other (in the mini and the mutiny), and to counting on only each other (The Oath, Islanded). Because they are both lovers (albeit briefly) and family (albeit not by blood--thankfully), I think they confound this chart a bit.
We all know--even a blind man could see--how much passion they have, whether frakking or fighting. And intimacy is fostered by the shared background, plus how much they're together and rely on each other, esp. in the earlier seasons, and really we got to see so much of that in the Final Cut to the Captain's Hand stretch. Unfortunately, the other relationships/marriages really made a big hit to this even more than their commitment in my opinion (hell, UB was all about how they were still and would always be committed to each other when you got right down to it).
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Date: 2010-06-14 01:24 pm (UTC)Not so safe for work (GIF)
Date: 2010-06-14 02:21 pm (UTC)OMG! Hot people are HOT! For those of you who missed the rewatch afterparty Saturday night, I wanted to share an observation made possible by slo-mo gifs and the inability to look away. Lee's on his knees at the beginning of this clip:
SQUEE!
As I said that night, first we must find where NBC Universal keeps their film vault, then procure a bag of angry squirrels. Once those key steps have been taken, we should be able to get our hands on all the extra footage they filmed that didn't make Scar!
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Date: 2010-06-14 02:51 pm (UTC)Re: Not so safe for work (GIF)
Date: 2010-06-14 02:59 pm (UTC)I know!!! Dude, one of my dreams as a K/L shipper is to get my hands on all the "Scar" footage that was left on the cutting room floor *g*
(I also wonder how Katee and Jamie approached that scene... especially Lee's amazing ass-grabbing lol)
Re: Not so safe for work (GIF)
Date: 2010-06-14 03:00 pm (UTC)Re: Not so safe for work (GIF)
Date: 2010-06-14 03:50 pm (UTC)I love this commercial footage! I want to see more of this!
Re: Not so safe for work (GIF)
Date: 2010-06-14 03:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-14 04:00 pm (UTC)*sigh*
Scar Deleted Scenes
Date: 2010-06-14 04:17 pm (UTC)Re: Scar Deleted Scenes
Date: 2010-06-14 04:25 pm (UTC)Re: Not so safe for work (GIF)
Date: 2010-06-14 04:25 pm (UTC)More *g*:
Re: Not so safe for work (GIF)
Date: 2010-06-14 04:38 pm (UTC)*can't. stop. staring*
Re: Not so safe for work (GIF)
Date: 2010-06-14 04:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-14 05:12 pm (UTC)I think Lee and Kara fall into the Consumate Love category because they really were ALL 3. We knew that passion was there from the moment they met, intimacy has always been there in a way. Lee and Kara have always been connected whether by their past, their love of flying or just their mutual need for each other. One would think commitment would be hard to explain for them since they were never "together" but I think that's one of the easiest one for them. They were always devoted to each other in the most important ways possible; their hearts and souls belonged to only each other. Yes, at times their body belonged to another but I suppose that's not a big detail when you look at the big picture. They always came back to each other FOR each other, as long as Kara was fine, Lee could deal with his pain and vise verca. Personally, I think that's true commitment and devotion.
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Date: 2010-06-14 05:13 pm (UTC)Thank god for personal office:)
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Date: 2010-06-14 05:17 pm (UTC)I mean, sure, epic pilot love is epic. And, for the purposes of today's discussion, Consummate. But, man were they dysfunctional?! The more I think about them, the more I realize that, yeah, as others have said, they had all 3 elements. And yet they couldn't get their acts together. Which is probably why I'm still hanging around, right clicking images at Wikipedia and hosting DPPs. :)
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Date: 2010-06-14 05:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-14 05:21 pm (UTC)Oh, wait. They can all read this, can't they? Move along people! Nothing to see here! :)
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Date: 2010-06-14 05:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-14 05:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-14 05:36 pm (UTC)Re: Scar Deleted Scenes
Date: 2010-06-14 05:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-14 05:42 pm (UTC)LOL. SSWA.
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Date: 2010-06-14 06:30 pm (UTC)♥