DPP: Kara vs. Lee

[cynicalshadows.livejournal.com]

Even though we are all pilot shippers, everyone naturally gravitates to one of the pair over the other. Sometimes the bias is obvious, and sometimes it is subtle, but we all have one. Thus, when issues between Kara and Lee arise, we're more likely to interpret the actions through the lens of whose 'team' we are on.

Take this infamous scene:



Who is more to blame here? Is it Lee for demanding too much, too fast? Or is it Kara for being incredibly cruel?

What's that you say? They're both at fault? How observant you are! It does take two to tango and almost every pilot confrontation involves some degree of fault on both sides. For today thought, let's just ignore that logical and mature reasoning because the pilots we love certainly do.

So go ahead. Be petty. Pick sides.




Lee wants to know why Kara slept with Baltar.
Kara wants to know why Lee is making it such a big deal. 



Kara insists she just wants a good lay to get over her 'dead' guy.
Lee insists her real problem is that she can't get over the living ones. 



Kara won't divorce.
Lee won't cheat.



Kara wants to know if Lee will still leave Dee if she leaves Sam.
Lee wants to know how he can be assured that Kara won't back out again.  

Comments

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Okay, so everyone knows I'm a devoted Lee!Girl. But holy cow, I feel like I'm having an identity crisis over here.

There are so many excellent points about Lee!Fail that I can't even comprehend it. (Yes, hyperbole, but sheesh.)

I'm in/have been in the throes of writing about Lee and Kara and Dee and it strikes me that many of us (me, too) ask Did Lee Cheat? Frak yeah. He cheated on Dee when he frakked Kara on UB. Does it matter that they weren't married? Not to me. And for the first time, I feel really pissed off at him for cheating then marrying her. (I know, what's taken so long...)

*accidentally steps on lee-colored glasses*

More later if my brain gets wrapped around properly. *faints*

[rdave1.livejournal.com]

Okay, so everyone knows I'm a devoted Lee!Girl. But holy cow, I feel like I'm having an identity crisis over here.

That's exactly how I feel. All of these great topics and now my head feels like it's going explode from going back and forth. I agree with why people to choose Lee, then read the next comment and for the same scene, I'm with Kara.

Identity crisis over pilots today!:)

[kag523.livejournal.com]

LOL - love your comment "He cheated on Dee when he frakked Kara on UB. Does it matter that they weren't married? Not to me. And for the first time, I feel really pissed off at him for cheating then marrying her. (I know, what's taken so long...) *accidentally steps on lee-colored glasses*"

Such a perfect response to that frakked up situation! And despite my generalized dislike of Dee, I really, REALLY have a whole lot of anger over Lee's treatment of her... Just. Plain. Wrong.

Badly, badly done, Leland!

It's weird, I tend to forgive Kara for everything (because she's Kara, after all) but I enjoy Lee's general (more healthy?) view of the world more, and that whole cheating then marrying event seemed completely out of character for him. Huh... this post has made me pensive.

[(Anonymous)]

So did Kara, I guess it just comes down to who you sympathise more. Lee cheated on New Caprica but wanted to follow through and leave Dee.
After Kara married Sam, it was a mistake to marry Dee no doubt, but he was in a totally broken down mental and emotional state. I think you can see in the deleted scene in which Lee proposes to Dee how confused and in crisis he really is.

[damao2010.livejournal.com]

My thought exactly. And I sympathise more with Lee.

I can see all his faults and mistakes (and there are many),I wish he had acted differently at times, but, given how fraked up BOTH of them are, I still pick his side. I think the way she treated him, no matter what the reason, was somehow worse. And she was no saint when it came to Sam, either.
Besides, people tend to be very forgiving of Kara's shortcomings because of all her issues while , at the same time, tend to be more unforgiving of Lee in spite of his own issues.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry I replied at the wrong place, here again:
Absolutely!
If she'd at leats woken him up and told him she couldn't do it, but the whole waking up alone in a field and having to walk back and finding out like that is just brutal.
I read a quote from Jamie recently that Lee's in love with Kara but also terrified of her, as strange as it sounds that just adds to my love for him.

[damao2010.livejournal.com]

It makes perfect sense that he would be terrified. lol
And it would help explain part of his behaviour.