[identity profile] cynicalshadows.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] no_takebacks
Even though we are all pilot shippers, everyone naturally gravitates to one of the pair over the other. Sometimes the bias is obvious, and sometimes it is subtle, but we all have one. Thus, when issues between Kara and Lee arise, we're more likely to interpret the actions through the lens of whose 'team' we are on.

Take this infamous scene:

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Who is more to blame here? Is it Lee for demanding too much, too fast? Or is it Kara for being incredibly cruel?

What's that you say? They're both at fault? How observant you are! It does take two to tango and almost every pilot confrontation involves some degree of fault on both sides. For today thought, let's just ignore that logical and mature reasoning because the pilots we love certainly do.

So go ahead. Be petty. Pick sides.


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Lee wants to know why Kara slept with Baltar.
Kara wants to know why Lee is making it such a big deal. 

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Kara insists she just wants a good lay to get over her 'dead' guy.
Lee insists her real problem is that she can't get over the living ones. 

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Kara won't divorce.
Lee won't cheat.

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Kara wants to know if Lee will still leave Dee if she leaves Sam.
Lee wants to know how he can be assured that Kara won't back out again.  

part 2

Date: 2010-06-07 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latteaddict.livejournal.com
EoJ - What [livejournal.com profile] dramaturgca said - "since her issue with divorce is religious and his with cheating is moral, why he doesn't divorce, since she's willing to cheat. And then they're together." I'd also like to add that despite the words coming out of both their mouths, Kara was actually being more faithful to Lee than he to her. Sam made a comment about how he never sees Kara anymore (I assume since L/K made up after the boxing match). But Leland was tucked safely in his marital bed every single night during the 'affair.' He and Dee never separated. Kara might not have wanted an actual divorce but she was all Lee's. Lee was the one having his cake and eating it too. Probably got it on with Dee a bit more to assuage his guilt. *twirly spin of truth*

TaB - Lee's reaction to Kara's offer just proves he never really forgave her for New Cap. Which is his right but then why was he asking her to divorce Sam just the week or two before? I'm inclined to think he would never have gone through with it. The extended scene sheds much more light. Kara admitted she married the wrong guy and Lee basically ripped her a new one and was appalled at her even suggesting he leave Dualla. That was Lee's last chance to be with Kara because she was dead soon after that. *too sad to do a full spin*

Re: part 2

Date: 2010-06-07 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
I'd also like to add that despite the words coming out of both their mouths, Kara was actually being more faithful to Lee than he to her. Sam made a comment about how he never sees Kara anymore (I assume since L/K made up after the boxing match). But Leland was tucked safely in his marital bed every single night during the 'affair.' He and Dee never separated. Kara might not have wanted an actual divorce but she was all Lee's. Lee was the one having his cake and eating it too. Probably got it on with Dee a bit more to assuage his guilt. *twirly spin of truth*

This is so interesting. I have never thought about it this way before. *rips up LeeAdamaFanClub card* ;)

LOL. No, seriously, I love your interpretation. I'm not sure how I feel about it, though. Kinda turns things upside down. One thing that comes to mind is Lee's disconnection from Dee through his drinking/hanging out with Tyrol - she seems to have said as much in TAB when she complains about a husband and wife spending time together. *tapes fanclub card back together*

That said, this and all of your earlier comments about these scenes are amazing! Lots of yummy things to think about. :D

Re: part 2

Date: 2010-06-08 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damao2010.livejournal.com
Yes, don't rip up the fanclub card! Our boy is not perfect, but he had his own problems as well. All was definetely not well in paradise. The only thing I really can't forgive him for is the fact he didn't divorce Lee after the affair. That I find very hard to justify.

Re: part 2

Date: 2010-06-07 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
Oh I like those thoughts, though they make me sad. *sigh* Thank goodness you threw in your "twirly spin of truth", because it made me smile. :>)

Re: part 2

Date: 2010-06-07 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosetteferaud.livejournal.com
Probably got it on with Dee a bit more to assuage his guilt.

Ok, is it bad that this made me laugh out loud? ;p

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