DPP: the end of the worlds?

[coffeesuperhero.livejournal.com]

Okay. leiascully and I were talking about this last night, and I thought it might spark some interesting discussion. All credit for this topic goes to her!

What would have happened to Kara and Lee if the Colonies had never been destroyed? If the worlds hadn't ended, would they have gravitated back to each other eventually, or would they have lived separate lives? What happens if Zak doesn't die in that accident? What happens if he does? Does Kara take the posting on Galactica? If so, when Galactica is decommissioned for real, where does Kara go? What about Lee? Does he leave the military? If so, what does he do?

I am interested in hearing all your thoughts! And by all means, continue the awesome discussion about Kara from yesterday.

I've had so much fun with y'all this week! Thanks for being so amazing! ♥

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What ifs... and a teeny snippet of fic

[kag523.livejournal.com]

#1 If the worlds hadn't ended, would they have gravitated back to each other eventually, or would they have lived separate lives?

With Zak gone, I think this might have been a reasonably good opportunity for Lee and Kara to end up together after much denial, much questioning, MUCH angst and (unnecessary) misery on both their parts. Seems I’ve read a couple fics along these lines, though the names escape me.

Here’s how I see it happening...

I think it would likely start out with a few “just stopping by to see how you’re doing” visits, progressing to “while I’m here, let’s go grab a couple drinks and talk about old times”, thus resulting in “Oh my gods what did I just do last night” denials, then eventually back to “just wanted to make sure you were okay... about Zak and well... about what happened” awkwardness. Yeah, the two of them would go in endless circles like this for years, denying the truth but always coming back together again. But I’m pretty sure (at least in a universe that I wrote) that they’d eventually end up together.

#2 What happens if Zak doesn't die in that accident? What happens if he does?

I’ve got to say that this one is probably the most angst-ridden of any of the questions. Without Zak’s death, there is absolutely no chance that Lee and Kara would end up living their shiny future... though of course we know from the series that it didn’t happen that way either. (Unless you happen to believe in my extended ending... which I, of course, do.)

With Zak still around, the two of them marry and Kara and Zak are happy – in some ways – though there is tremendous unease where Lee is concerned. (He’d probably avoid them for the most part.) I don’t think Kara would ever leave or cheat on Zak, but I think that the general “drifting” between the two of them – one a very strong pilot, with a whole lot of other issues, and one a very weak pilot with a so-called stable background – wouldn’t leave the two of them happy in the long run.

I think somewhere, deep down, Kara would always wonder if she met the right brother first. And to be honest, I doubt she and Zak would have kids. Hmm.... not sure why, since I’m pretty sure she and Lee would have them. But that’s my gut speaking there too.

#3 When Galactica is decommissioned for real, where does Kara go?

With no one to keep her tethered, I think Kara would probably leave Galactica for another military posting, continuing to live “outside the box” and be wild. I think eventually, she’d either get killed (doing some crazy stunt) or end up being decommissioned because of an injury (or as a result of hard living).

Since it seems like viper pilot is pretty much a young-person’s game, I could see Kara moving onto a completely different field, like art, when she did leave the military. This would make a huge difference in her ability to deal with her past and to get past a lot of her problems regarding Zak’s death and her past. (Go back to question 1...) This is the point that Lee and Kara would actually start to have a legitimate chance to reconnect in the long term. Because frankly, until Kara dealt with those demons, it just wouldn’t happen.

Re: What ifs... and a teeny snippet of fic

[damao2010.livejournal.com]

I really love your ideas but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you here. I firmly believe that if Zac hadn't died, Kara and Lee would have ended up together eventually.
Canon doesn't really gives us a lot of information regarding the dynamics of Kara and Zac's relationship, or Kara and Lee's before the attacks.
What we know is that when Kara and Lee first met each other, their connection was so immediate and strong they almost had sex, with his brother a few feet away. Under normal circumstances, this kind of behaviour would be completely out of character for both of them and I assume they would have gone through a period where they would have felt rather awkard around each other, but trying to keep it cool because of Zac. With time they would have fallen into an easy camaraderie, but the spark would have remained there, just waiting to be ignited. They would have tried to deny it to themselves but would have been constantly wary of this possibility. They might have tried to avoid each other for a while. All that would have caused a lot of inner turmoil - the desire to get closer, the fear of doing so, the guilt of betraying Zac (if only in thought), the denial, the uncertainty regarding the other's feelings. In short, lots of angst and not enough frank talk. (But, what else is new, right?)

We also know that Zac and Kara were in a serious relationship and he wanted to talk to his father about it before he died. Adama concluded they were engaged. Kara sort of confirmed it. We have no idea how long she had known Lee by that time. Or how long she and Zac had been engaged for. It is possible to imagine that she might have been having doubts by that time, but all of them were set aside after he died and became fuel for the guilt she felt for the part she played in his death. She decided to go to Galactica after that. She probably never would have done so if he hadn't died. And she didn't know Adama before that, so there was no connection there. Galactica was, however, the perfect place to run from Lee, especially after Lee and his father (whose relationship was already stranged) had fought at the funeral.
So, in my opinion, if Zac hadn't died, sooner or later, they would have broken up. He might even have been the one to break up with her either because he sensed she was not that into him as she had been before, or because he realized the attraction between her and Lee (perhaps more clearly than they themselves), or even because of the strain of living up to the great Starbuck. And after that, Lee and Kara would have eventually got together. In fact, although there would undoubtedly have been some awkwardness, everything might have been considerably less angsty.

Re: What ifs... and a teeny snippet of fic

[kag523.livejournal.com]

I LOVE that you disagree! :>) And I totally respect your reasoning. It makes complete sense to me... and perhaps if I was feeling less pessimistic (even just today) I'd be right on board.

Hmmm... thoughts on the ficlet I included? Do tell! K :>)