Daily Pilots Post: Hey, I Know You!
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no_takebacksI know you've done it. Seen a couple in a movie or TV show or read them in a book and said, "HEY! THAT'S LEE/KARA!" It makes sense, in a lot of ways. As ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
mlsky pointed out a few weeks back over in sci_fi_shipper's Write and Gripe community, the two of them are archetypal.
With Tara, we discussed movies that you wish would be made for Katee and Jamie to act in, or could see Katee and Jamie cast in, because the parts scream for their chemistry and/or remind us so much of Kara and Lee. I expect there will be some overlap here, but I want to hear about book (or play or other works of literature) characters that remind you of Pilots. Maybe, for whatever reason, they'll never end up on a screen, or the casting wouldn't work if it did, but these characters scream Lee and Kara for you.
Examples:
Eve and Rourk from J.D. Robb's In Death series. She's a feisty, broken, beautiful woman with a badly cut, dirty blond hair and hazel eyes. He's a suave, sophisticated, wealthy, dark haired man with his own troubled past and a set of piercing blue eyes. His accent holds a hint of Ireland, but the chemistry between them comes closer to the climate of Equador. And they both know about kicking ass, then taking names. I could go on, but I think you get the point. They're Kara and Lee in NYC in 2050. I may be off by a bit on the year.
Kat and Gail/Peeta from Suzanne Collins' Hunger Games series. This one isn't quite as obvious, but it's close. Kat resembles Kara in so many ways it's difficult to count, and I maintain that both Gail and Peeta have different aspects of Lee's personality. Peeta is the idealist and Gail is the fierce hunter. These kids are younger, and I think less broken that Kara and Lee were, but looking at them through that lens makes for an interesting study in what might have been when Pilots were younger.
Matrim Cauthon and Tuon (The Daughter of The Nine Moons) from Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series (which is being completed posthumously by Brandon Sanderson, using notes and outlines RJ made before his death, for those who were curious). This is easily the most abstracted comparison example I'm going to use. She's a petite, dark-skinned princess and he's a brash gambler and reluctant, if highly successful, general. But when you dig down, you see it. They're drawn to each other from the moment they meet. In this case, prophesy actually throws them together and sees them married, but there's a constant push and pull and vying for dominance between them that reminds me of the dance our beloved Pilots shared. She's aloof and critical and cold and fierce (and a shockingly good fighter), but her smiles transform her. He's crass and irreverent, macho and insane and luckier than any one person has any business being. Anyone else would have died pulling the stunts he pulls. Last I saw, though, circumstances had drawn them apart again, despite their marriage. And without even a goodbye kiss. They aren't the main pairing in the series, but they're the one I like best.
So, where have YOU seen reincarnations of our pilots?
mlsky pointed out a few weeks back over in sci_fi_shipper's Write and Gripe community, the two of them are archetypal.With Tara, we discussed movies that you wish would be made for Katee and Jamie to act in, or could see Katee and Jamie cast in, because the parts scream for their chemistry and/or remind us so much of Kara and Lee. I expect there will be some overlap here, but I want to hear about book (or play or other works of literature) characters that remind you of Pilots. Maybe, for whatever reason, they'll never end up on a screen, or the casting wouldn't work if it did, but these characters scream Lee and Kara for you.
Examples:
Eve and Rourk from J.D. Robb's In Death series. She's a feisty, broken, beautiful woman with a badly cut, dirty blond hair and hazel eyes. He's a suave, sophisticated, wealthy, dark haired man with his own troubled past and a set of piercing blue eyes. His accent holds a hint of Ireland, but the chemistry between them comes closer to the climate of Equador. And they both know about kicking ass, then taking names. I could go on, but I think you get the point. They're Kara and Lee in NYC in 2050. I may be off by a bit on the year.
Kat and Gail/Peeta from Suzanne Collins' Hunger Games series. This one isn't quite as obvious, but it's close. Kat resembles Kara in so many ways it's difficult to count, and I maintain that both Gail and Peeta have different aspects of Lee's personality. Peeta is the idealist and Gail is the fierce hunter. These kids are younger, and I think less broken that Kara and Lee were, but looking at them through that lens makes for an interesting study in what might have been when Pilots were younger.
Matrim Cauthon and Tuon (The Daughter of The Nine Moons) from Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series (which is being completed posthumously by Brandon Sanderson, using notes and outlines RJ made before his death, for those who were curious). This is easily the most abstracted comparison example I'm going to use. She's a petite, dark-skinned princess and he's a brash gambler and reluctant, if highly successful, general. But when you dig down, you see it. They're drawn to each other from the moment they meet. In this case, prophesy actually throws them together and sees them married, but there's a constant push and pull and vying for dominance between them that reminds me of the dance our beloved Pilots shared. She's aloof and critical and cold and fierce (and a shockingly good fighter), but her smiles transform her. He's crass and irreverent, macho and insane and luckier than any one person has any business being. Anyone else would have died pulling the stunts he pulls. Last I saw, though, circumstances had drawn them apart again, despite their marriage. And without even a goodbye kiss. They aren't the main pairing in the series, but they're the one I like best.
So, where have YOU seen reincarnations of our pilots?
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Date: 2010-04-21 04:51 pm (UTC)I mean, it isn't a perfect match... because I think Kara kinda has parts of both Scarlett & Rhett in her. But the gambling and the fighting and they lying and the denial and the snark and the hot sex. ALL FIT.
Sam is totally Ashley.
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Date: 2010-04-21 05:29 pm (UTC)I've actually never read the book, only seen the movie. I really should fix that.
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Date: 2010-04-21 05:33 pm (UTC)One thing that doesn't fit though must be the absence of dresses! Scarlet in a drop-dead dress is not a once in a lifetime opportunity! :)
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Date: 2010-04-21 07:55 pm (UTC)You are throwing away happiness with both hands and reaching out for something that will never make you happy.
I think of Rhett and Scarlett more as Kara/Lee at the end, maybe? When Kara asks for Lee if she leaves Sam? Lee didn't say, "Frankly, my dear I don't give a damn," but he could have. And just like Scarlett gets Rhett back in my head, Kara and Lee finally had their time too in scenes beyond the frame of the show. Some other thoughts:
Kara - Scarlett
Lee - Rhett
Charles Wilkes - Zak
Ashley Wilkes - Sam
Belle Watling - Shevon
Melanie Wilkes - I can't think of anyone on this show who could be Melanie. I really like Melanie.
Sue Ellen - Kat
Carreen - Cally
Mr. Kennedy - Chief?
Bonnie - Kacey?
Leoben - The Yankee deserter Scarlett shoots?
Racetrack - India Wilkes
Adama and Roslin - Scarlett's parents. Hee, this puts a new spin on Scarlett's mother sending her to what would be hell in Atlanta. Roslin sent Kara to Cylon-occupied Caprica!
I'm having too much fun with all this. :-) Please feel free to cast the GWTW characters as you wish with their BSG counterparts. I'm just playing!
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Date: 2010-04-22 01:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-22 05:32 am (UTC)It would've been so cool if Kara had rescued Sam, brought him over to the G, handed him off to Dee and went to some supply closet to frak Lee's brains out just cuz she missed him so much. *snicker*
Hee, in this case Kara would so be Rhett. Rescuing everyone. :-) I can so see her telling Lee, "You know I'm not the marrying kind?" Hee!