DPP: The state of the Nation.
Apr. 14th, 2010 10:54 pmI was going to do a funny and snarky state-of-the-union post, but once I started writing, the thinky thoughts came out and the meta-poetry snuck in and it kind of got out of hand. So instead of the funny, you get something a bit more contemplative. I promise I'll return to my lighter and more whimsical side tomorrow. : )
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Hello, my dears. It's been over a year since our show ended, and yet, here we are. Still here. Still talking. Still laughing and snarking and pondering pilots. It's strange how a fictional pairing can burrow so deeply under your skin that it almost feels like part of your backstory. But I suspect if most of us didn't feel that way, we wouldn't be here.
And yet, I occasionally hear (and say to myself)—Why do you still care? You were so disappointed in the ending, in so many things. How does what was ultimately given not wipe away all the previous goodwill?
I don't really have a clever answer, I just know that it doesn't. Even with retcon and narrative and genderfail—even with hubris and the things that still make us roll our eyes and gnash our teeth… there's still so much truth there.
And so much beauty. And so much hope.
Despair at the end doesn't negate everything that's come before. In some ways, it just makes it sweeter and more precious.
I went to a funeral yesterday. A beautiful funeral filled with cantors singing psalms in minor tones, prayerful melodies echoing across the congregation—a melancholy celebration of life. A poignant reminder that all love stories have a tragic ending. A colleague of mine, an elderly gentleman, lost his wife of many years. They met when they were 6 years old. Six. Can you imagine? They fell in love at 14, but they had to wait 15 years—and outlast a World War—before they could marry. True soulmates. When her health began to decline several years ago, so did his. And as much as it pains me to say it, I doubt if he will want to stay in this world much longer without her.
It's a very real reminder of what sometimes seems like a fictional idea—that love is real, that it is complex, that it demands hard work and sacrifice, and that it is destined to break our hearts.
But you know what? It is so worth it. The pain of loss, of not having, of clinging to an empty, spinning bed for months—none of it can compare when placed against what we stand to gain. To live life in a full spectrum of color; to breathe deeply and laugh hard and scream at the top of our lungs just because we can. To see the spark of the divine in another person, and in doing so, also see it in ourselves.
We are all Kara, and we are all Lee. The lover and the beloved; the leader and the follower; the savior and the saved. Rash and restrained, measured and impulsive—it's all there in each of us. Searching for something that we're almost too scared to find. Too scared that it will be real. That it will demand too much. That it will hurt too badly when it's gone.
All love stories have a tragic ending, but they are not sad. Instead, they give us hope. Hope for what might be; hope for what has been. They teach us how to better live. In some ways they provide cautionary tales, but the best ones—the very best—show us that love can grow in the most unlikely of places, that it can flourish in the hardest of hearts, under the most impossible of circumstances.
That it can accept us for who and what we are. That it can heal us. Set us free. Fixed is not the same as unbroken but something more, something better.
This is all that matters.
And what a wonderful thing that two fictional characters can remind us of such a fundamental truth. Thanks for sharing in the journey, my friends.
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Thus endeth the essay. : )
**hugs all of you**
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:01 am (UTC)*squishes and hugs you*
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:03 am (UTC)**squishes you back**
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:07 am (UTC)This is it, in a nutshell. This is what keeps me here, and keeps me coming back. Because yes, it hurts, but ultimately the joy outweighs the pain.
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:21 am (UTC)I think the emotional "real-ness" of our peeps is what creates such a hook. It's why we hear over and over, "I've never been sucked into a pairing like this before," etc. It just hits on the big fundamental stuff in so many ways.
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:11 am (UTC)Sharing the journey with all of you has been, is and will always be the best part. ♥
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:16 am (UTC)It's been an honor, my friend. It tickles me to no end how a robot show set in space brought such amazing people together to discuss fabulous thoughts on a regular basis.
((And, btw, THANK YOU for the puppy! It's woderful!! And I'm sorry I'm just now getting around to mentioning it-- that's what we call Bee!fail... ; P))
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:41 am (UTC)SSWA!
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:43 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:44 am (UTC)We are here because we endure. Because when canon punches us in the gut we get right back up and we keep fighting. Because for every shadow, there's a rainbow, and the rainbows make the shadows more than worth it. Because there are SO many awesome people in this fandom. Because we are insane, but insane in a GOOD way. Because we have to stick together or what else will there be?
Because we are Shipper Nation, and WE ROCK! *fist pump* ;D
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:57 am (UTC)And yes, insane in a TOTALLY good way. : D
**fist pumps right back atchya**
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Date: 2010-04-15 04:56 am (UTC)Nicely done, Bee.
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Date: 2010-04-15 05:00 am (UTC)MWAH!!!
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Date: 2010-04-15 05:54 am (UTC)I have a lovely squishy feelgood mood now, even though customers today have been less than wonderful... ;)
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Date: 2010-04-15 05:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-15 08:32 am (UTC)One of my v v fav quotes about love comes from "Love Actually." Liam Neeson's son tells him gleefully, "Let's go get the sh7t kicked out of us by love."
Re: Pilot!love... Kara and Lee are Shakespearan & biblical (small b). As with a fabulous play by the Bard, the story can be lifted out and put into a new context. The tropes and the structure hold up. Every fic brings into relief each new nuance, like an emotional topography of Kara and Lee's relationship. Their love is biblical because they've got all three times of love C.S.Lewis wrote of: philia, eros, and agape....brotherly, sexual, and sacrificial. We are drawn to the archetypes embodied in their exceedingly complex interaction - both canon and fanon.
Lastly, when my darling, beloved father died, I got an email forwarded to me about what matters at the end of your life: not money, not awards, not possessions - what matters most at the end is who you loved and who loved you.
Yes, Kara and Lee got the sh7t kicked out of them by love, sometimes with their own fists, sometimes by RDM. Yes, what mattered in the end was that Lee Adama was loved by Kara Thrace and Kara Thrace was loved by Lee Adama...however imperfectly. And that was what they'll take with them to The Other Side. Ah that man's grasp should ever exceed his reach, or what's a heaven for?
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Date: 2010-04-15 05:52 pm (UTC)I love that quote. Yes. Precisely.
what matters most at the end is who you loved and who loved you.
I couldn't agree more.
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Date: 2010-04-15 10:01 am (UTC)You are spot on that every love story has a tragic end, but not nesscessarily sad. It's funny, even though I'm very late to the shipper party... its because I just can't leave the pilots. Their love, their story, their battles... are so complex and I just can't let them go. Not yet.
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Date: 2010-04-15 05:50 pm (UTC)Thanks, hon. Sorry about the teariness. I brought Melanie in for some huggles. : )
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Date: 2010-04-15 12:20 pm (UTC)The relationship between Kara and Lee inspires hope, not necessarily the hope of a happy ending, because life does no often give those, but instead the hope that for some brief period of time in our lives, we may be lucky enough to find that one true spark. Sometimes the spark lasts for a few days, driving us to bliss and lingering in bittersweet memory for a lifetime. And maybe, if one is very lucky, the joy lasts longer, years, or in the rare case, a lifetime. Kara and Lee inspire me to remember that greater things might be out there, not to give up on the possibility of fire and light and fulfillment, despite the risk and possible cost. It's a painful and scary prospect, seeking it out and forsaking all others, but pilots make me think it might just be worth it.
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Date: 2010-04-15 05:49 pm (UTC)I love this. Such a beautiful sentiment.
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Date: 2010-04-15 01:12 pm (UTC)You are absolutely correct! Kara and Lee have shown us that love, true love, soul mate love can overcome any obstacle even death. They gave us hope even in the midst of everything, they never gave up on each other and here a year later we haven't on them.
They took risks on love, got hurt but came better for knowing each other, loving each other. It is a risk every one of us MUST take in life because like you said it may hurt but the reward is priceless.
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Date: 2010-04-15 02:37 pm (UTC)You know, despite the apocalyptic scenario and the vipers and the robots and the crazy space magic, Kara and Lee’s story is one of the most honest and realistic portraits of a relationship I’ve ever seen, and that’s what it makes it so compelling. Complex, contradictory and challenging in so many ways, it made me question a lot of things and made my life definitely richer. So in the end it doesn’t even matter that their resolution was a big slap on the face from someone who never had the sensibility to understand what Kara and Lee’s story was all about. The journey was so worth it, I wouldn’t change it for anything.
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Date: 2010-04-15 05:46 pm (UTC)Yes. THIS. Yes to all of what you've said but especially this. I think this is why it really hooks you in and won't let go.
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Date: 2010-04-15 02:55 pm (UTC)And this is so very, very true:
It's a very real reminder of what sometimes seems like a fictional idea—that love is real, that it is complex, that it demands hard work and sacrifice, and that it is destined to break our hearts.
But you know what? It is so worth it
Long live Shipper Nation, y'all. If for no other reason than that it celebrates love, and love deserves to be celebrated as often as possible.
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Date: 2010-04-15 06:15 pm (UTC)"The pain of loss, of not having, of clinging to an empty, spinning bed for months—none of it can compare when placed against what we stand to gain. To live life in a full spectrum of color; to breathe deeply and laugh hard and scream at the top of our lungs just because we can. To see the spark of the divine in another person, and in doing so, also see it in ourselves." YES! That's exactly it. That's what BSG means to me. It's changed who I am. It's changed my life. Now there are cynics out there who smirk and ask if a "TV show" can do that and I respond with a resounding YES! It doesn't matter what the source of your inspiration is or how you come by your epiphanies, it just matters that you do. The journey is more important than the destination and all that ...
I also want to take this opportunity to say that as a newly de-cloaked member, it is amazing to find so many kindred spirits with whom I can share the deep, deep impact that BSG has had on me and my life. I didn't watch the series when it originally aired and the lack of having a current forum to discuss my feelings with like-minded people was painful. Then, I started reading the fic and found you guys. ** BIG YAY WITH FIREWORKS **
So, thank you, thank you, thank you. You made my day. *another slow tear *
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Date: 2010-04-15 07:05 pm (UTC)It doesn't matter what the source of your inspiration is or how you come by your epiphanies, it just matters that you do.
I love this. : )
I'm so glad you found us. It's is an amazing group of people. I feel really lucky to be here as well. *g*
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Date: 2010-04-16 01:50 am (UTC)Mwah!
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Date: 2010-04-15 11:31 pm (UTC)I agree with pretty much everything people have said here today. To me, Kara and Lee's relationship has caused such an impact because they are so quintessentially human - flawed, troubled with deep-rooted issues, striving against all odds survive and find peace of mind and happiness in a world that doesn't seem to make a lot sense most of the time. They have their moments of weakness - they might get depressed, lash out at others to hide their own hurt, resort to fighting, drinking too much, using sex as a scape route, etc. However, in spite of all harships and inner turmoil, they manage to be continue to be essentially good people who also have such great qualities - courage, loyalty, strength, determination, intelligence, honor, faith (and physical beauty - let's not forget that ;) ). That's why we are able to identify with them so easily and root for them to find their way... because deep down that's what we want for ourselves.
And they have love. A love that is not easy and is not perfect but is definitely strong and seems to survive everything. And we also want to believe that exists in real life. That's why real life stories like the couple Bee mentioned touches us so much. They are real proof that something akin to what we read about in novels and poetry, watch on the movies, listen to in songs can actually be found. Lee and Kara feed this hope because, although they are no real people, their characters ring true as human beings.
To put an ending to my ramblings, I'd like to say that I really liked what baciami2 wrote "they've got all three times of love C.S.Lewis wrote of: philia, eros, and agape....brotherly, sexual, and sacrificial." Yes, their love isn't simply romantic/sexual. It is something that surpasses this. And that also touches a chord in us.
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