DPP: In the beginning...

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

Good morning, Shipper Nation.  Welcome to day two of my reign of terror the land of rainbows and kittens.  I have one question for you:


How did those crazy kids meet?

Disregard the lame-ass flashbacks in Daybreak for a moment.  I know that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU has their own version in their head of how Kara and Lee met.  So guess what, peeps?  I want to hear it.
 
Was it funny? Angsty? Silly? Did sparks fly? Was it the traditional rom-com meetcute or a full-out confrontational exchange? Did the earth move and angles weep?  Did they know each other as kids?  Meet at the Academy?  Attend band camp together?


Whatever it is, I need to know, so spill, m'kay?  *g*

NOTE:  For purposes of this discussion, I'm asking you to forget about the DB flashbacks and go back and remember what your theory was before we were bombarded with all that.  (Not just because of the controversial table scene but because the meeting and subsequent early interactions of K/L deserve their OWN FRAKKING MINISERIES-- NOT FIVE MINUTES IN A HASTILY-WRITTEN FINALE.) 

Comments

[innibis.livejournal.com]

It feels like I'm the only shipper in town who actively dislikes most supposedly canon compliant pre-mini stories.

I don't have a personal canon in terms of specifics (they met on this day, at that time, in that situation) but I am very married to my pilots pre-mini emotional canon - as you well know, Ms Bee.:) I need the two of them to be in a very specific place for the brig scene in the mini to make any sense at all - for their relationship going forward to make any sense at all.

The big thing for me is that they both loved Zak a lot, Kara met Zak first, and Kara never cheated on him with Lee, even though they both were aware of the attraction between them. There is no way they could have physically betrayed Zak and then come out friends at the end of the world. It makes absolutely no sense in relation to who they are as characters.

[innibis.livejournal.com]

And when I say dislikes, I mean the genre of pre-mini - not the writing or the authors. In case that wasn't clear.

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

It's because you're allergic to angst. ; P

**tackleglomps you**

[innibis.livejournal.com]

Hey, I like angst in literature and tv shows and opera. Maybe I just don't like fic angst. Actually, I think the pre-mini allergy I have is due to the fact that I don't like self-indulgent inner ranting angst which is all down to me being a stone cold biotch with zero patience for such things.:)

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

which is all down to me being a stone cold biotch with zero patience for such things.:)

**cackles loudly**

It's a good thing me and my angst aren't sceered, then. ; P

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

O know, my darling, I know. Emotional and physical betrayal is sticky stuff. But I still think there's a context and place where it could work-- if later, the parties disavowed all knowledge and agreed to pretend it never happened. For whatever reason, I just can't discount the possibility. : )

[innibis.livejournal.com]

Nope. Never happened.:P (Unless it was after Zak died sex which is a horse of a different color entirely)

As with everything, we bring personal baggage to perception, so, eith my oldest sister glasses firmly on, I cannot reconcile it. Maybe, maybe Kara could have moved on in their friendship, but Lee, the big brother, could not have. There are things you just do not do to your siblings, add Zak's death to a really repellant betrayal - surely they are adults enough to keep it in their pants - and. . . you don't recover from that.

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

I tend to be in innibis's camp on this one. I was fine with the K/L flashbacks until the last one, which I felt really ruined the dynamics we had loved so much in the miniseries ~ I just don't believe 'the table' of either of them, especially Lee, *especially* not six hours after they met. To me, it's important that they grow into an amazing friendship leavened with the unacknowledged, tantalizing sense of missed opportunity for something more. But that's just my personal canon, and I know many fabulous authors have written very engaging angst around this. But for me, they just can't have a physical, or even that-close-to-physical, relationship during the Zak era and then come back and do their friendship-rivalry-budding-romance song and dance later on. That's not how I like to imagine them. And honestly, the quadrangle of doom was so unpleasant for me that I hate to think of it as their continuing relationship pattern. I want them to bring out better things in each other. I want the Zak era to have a glow around it.

Anyhow, I'll post a few of my daydreams on their first meeting below. Thanks for the interesting analysis :)

[damao2010.livejournal.com]

"The big thing for me is that they both loved Zak a lot, Kara met Zak first, and Kara never cheated on him with Lee, even though they both were aware of the attraction between them. There is no way they could have physically betrayed Zak "

I absolutely agree with you here. The table scene , although not a favorite of mine (completely unecessary to create angst), doesn't bug me all that much because: 1) They were extremely drunk and 2)They stopped and came to their senses pretty fast.
I think it was unnecessary because the point was to show that they clicked right away - there was certainly physical attraction there but also (and more importantly) an openness, a spiritual connection (which is expressed by their discussion about their fears, death, being remembered - not exactly the kind of conversation you would have with just anybody). I believe even without the table scene they would grow to be friends but there would be a certain wariness about them because they both loved Zac very much, and they were aware that to get too close would be to be playing with fire.

[innibis.livejournal.com]

The table scene , although not a favorite of mine (completely unecessary to create angst)

Well yes. :) Why be subtle when you can use an anvil to drive points into your skull over and over again.