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Happy Saturday, all! Wow, the round robin was so much fun to see develop yesterday! And please, if you feel so inclined, keep the post going!

Today's topic: Tell me how your ideal episode would have played out. Who would have been in it and who would not? Would it have been an actiony ep or something more character driven? Etc. etc. Be as general or as specific as you want.

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Date: 2010-03-27 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
I am definitely in the "wanting to see them work it out" camp, but if that was ever going to be effective storytelling it needed to happen in bits and pieces in the background of the Galactica story rather than in the-dramatic-get-together episode or the-angry-breakup episode (or even the-happy-ending-out-of-nowhere episode we never got). I think what made me believe they would be wonderful together was the way they shared chemistry when their relationship wasn't remotely the focus of the scene: doing their jobs, hanging out in groups, being in non-romantic situations and still sparking off each other, being comfortable with each other. I think if they had worked things out, their romance would have felt a lot like their friendship. In fact, when I think of the scenes we actually got on the show that worked like that, they are usually small moments in episodes focused elsewhere:

- The scene in Hand of God where Kara disses Lee's strategy for being textbook and ineffectual. The reason I love this little moment is that you could hear in Lee's voice when he presented the plan that he didn't really believe in it himself, and when he responds to Kara, a little piqued, you can hear both the challenge and the openness in his voice: "OK. So what would you do differently?" For similar reasons, I love Lee's: "At ease. So what's the plan?" in KLG Part II and Kara's "You wanna hear what I think happened, or not?" in Captain's Hand. They just listen to each other, no matter what else is going on with them, and that's - for me - romantic.
- Lee's "pull up a pew" to Kara in their triad circle, and the way he intuited the situation with Baltar in 0.5 seconds with no words at all. The little teasing elbow-bump in the extended "Scar" drinking scene, or the way Kara taps his shoulder when she likes his attitude in their Blackbird exchange in "Pegasus." Those little casual, non-getting-it-on touches are the best part, they're just unconsciously intimate, and that's what I want to see.
- Kara's "you're the worst CAG in the history of CAGs" and "Can I be a suspect again. Please?" Lee's "It's our favorite time of day again" and annoying singing to get her going in the morning. The little scene at the podium in "A Day in the Life" when she admires his butt-kicking CAG sermon and he just looks at her, and there is *nothing* about this episode or situation that should be sparking lightning between them but it is so there.

I wanted a series full of those moments; I wanted them to be in love like that :) Best friends with benefits. And yes, angst would happen, because they are both messed-up and also because that's life, but I wanted to see them build a strong enough romantic relationship that they could let their problems blow over the same way they did in their professional lives and in their friendship.

And I didn't enjoy seeing them cheating on other people or using other people while angsting over each other. I wanted their love to make them better human beings, I wanted them to be each other's conscience or critic or comforter or ally or occasional enemy, and to see that their influence on each other was more beneficial than destructive. Not all the time, but most of the time.

Anyhow, that's less an ideal episode than an ideal series, but why not think big? :)

Date: 2010-03-27 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
***slow claps you like woah***

YES. THIS. 1000 X THIS. :)

Date: 2010-03-27 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherylad.livejournal.com
I also agree here!

I didn't want just one episode of epic romance, I wanted all of what you said above. I wanted their relationship to just.MOVE.FORWARD. and then be part of the show. Like Helo & Sharon became or Chief & Cally.

I wanted them to put their hawt young leads together as the people they were with out alterna-spouses thrown in for "drama" and write a show that still worked on all fronts.

Date: 2010-03-27 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosetteferaud.livejournal.com
Totally agree with everything, girl.

I think what made me believe they would be wonderful together was the way they shared chemistry when their relationship wasn't remotely the focus of the scene

A big yes. I don't really like the shows where the pairings become the main focus... and I always appreciated that BSG wasn't one of that shows. I honestly think that something that made me fall for K/L was that their romantic relationship was in the background most of times; I truly enjoyed all the little details, the subtext, all those smalls scenes where you could feel their chemistry, friendship and connection (now I find them endearing, but truth is I cringed a little bit with their big declarations of love in UB).

As for them getting together... Given the circumstanes, I think I could have been ok with the K/L development in S4 and S4.5 if they had included a couple more of K/L scenes throughout the whole season. I mean, the brig scene pretty much says it all for me, so I could have been perfectly happy with a scene after the Demetrius mission --Kara giving back to him the Aurora figurine?--, and after that... well, they are together and that's all?? It works for me.

Date: 2010-03-28 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com
I couldn't have said it better myself! So say we all!

And I didn't enjoy seeing them cheating on other people or using other people while angsting over each other.

I think this was my biggest issue with the series. The eye fraks got a little... oogy... when they did it over the shoulders of their spouses.

Date: 2010-03-28 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyras.livejournal.com
This times so much.

I think I could almost (nearly, maybe) have been happy with Daybreak if, instead of Kara's "Nor am I [coming back]" comment followed by cheese (*swallows down rage*), we could have just had something really understated where it was clear that, whatever they were going to do, they were going to do it together. They'd have the rest of their lives to work out the angst - just let them accept for one moment that they want to be with each other. I don't even need a kiss - any getting together scenario might be too cheesy for my tastes. Just some indication that they finally had time to be together and be uncomplicated would be wonderful!

Also, yeah, I didn't like the infidelity aspects, especially Kara being all, "Hey, no, I won't divorce Sam, but let's just frak. It'll be great!"

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