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Happy Saturday, all! Wow, the round robin was so much fun to see develop yesterday! And please, if you feel so inclined, keep the post going!

Today's topic: Tell me how your ideal episode would have played out. Who would have been in it and who would not? Would it have been an actiony ep or something more character driven? Etc. etc. Be as general or as specific as you want.

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Date: 2010-03-27 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
I feel like I'm going to cause all kinds of drama by saying this--but my ideal episode would not have involve any epic declaration of love or even frakking or anything. I mean, maybe, maybe if the show had been daring in season 2 and got Kara and Lee together and did the "how do we have them make it work" I would think differently.

Would I love to see them make it work? Yes. Would I have liked to see it in the show proper? Probably not.

Do I love the pairing? OH HELL YES.
Do I want the show to focus on it? Eh... not so much.

I remember there was a conversation about how they wished it could've gone differently for them in the finale... or rather what we wished would've been their last scene in the finale or something... and I couldn't think of anything. And then I realized, it was because I didn't want to seem them get together in the finale. I think after this big epic show, for their (especially her) plotlines to conclude with getting together.. I'd feel kind of ripped off. Maybe even more so than the poof. Because "oh boy, after all this, she gets the right man." *sigh* Maybe I'm bitter, but that was bugging me.

Anyways, that being said, I don't know if it's my ideal episode per se, but going back to the idea of "trying to make the relationship work" would be interesting to see work out in an episode. It'd be set right after Scar, before Sacrifice, and eliminate The Captain's Hand from the episode lineup. Since Galactica lost so many pilots while overseeing the tylium operation, several Pegasus pilots are sent over and there're some infighting between the groups due to conflicting philosophies and actually having to live in the same space, leaving Kara and Lee in their roles of Mommy and Daddy of the pilots, trying to work things out. Early in the episode Lee confronts her about the near-frak on the table, she brushes him off, saying it was nothing, maybe laughing it off, I dunno. There's probably a B Plot of some kind going on... don't know what that is... Somewhere towards the end of the episode Kara has a close call, nearly gets blown up in her viper or something, but she's totally fine, but Lee's sort of overcome with relief that she is okay and kisses her on the flight deck in front of everyone. There's probably some CIC scene in here or something related to the B plot. The last scene of the episode, Kara's alone, hitting the punching bag in the gym, when Lee walks up behind her. End episode. Next time we see them is in Sacrifice, in which they both have leave and are attempting to go on a first date together.
Edited Date: 2010-03-27 02:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-27 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
Heh. This is funny because it echoes my original (and discarded) post before the one I actually made. I've never really been good at finding a way to put the pilots together that made any sense. No it would not be good if the show was about them. Nah. Wouldn't like that. Part of the appeal, of course, is the incredible angst and pain between them.

I guess if I picked one thing, it would be changing Lee's decision in Taking a Break. That was kinda it for me, the last chance for them to be together. If they decided to be together, there would be lots of room for canon to happen anyway, and for the angst and the death and the pain, but I think that could have worked. They tossed out the essential Starbuck anyway, why not go for the whole frakking thing.

I still stand by my assertion that there should be frakking. That never hurts anything. ;P

Date: 2010-03-27 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stripes13.livejournal.com
totally with you on the frakking :D
Edited Date: 2010-03-27 03:00 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-27 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
I guess if I picked one thing, it would be changing Lee's decision in Taking a Break. That was kinda it for me, the last chance for them to be together.

I agree... it would take a lot to come back from that and while the brig scene showed some promise the plot didn't allow for it to develop... and by Islanded it was definitely too late.

Date: 2010-03-27 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
Yeah, there was no more room for a lee/kara story once the final five squished out all other plot points. I guess that is the terrible horrible awfulness of the poof -- that would've been the perfect time for them to finally be together. Would that have been so frakking hard?

Anyway, don't mean to ruffle happy pilots space, but sheesh.

Date: 2010-03-27 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
Eah... No I wouldn't have wanted them to get together in the finale. Like I said I don't think a romantic ending at that point would suit.

Date: 2010-03-27 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
Heee. I'm a little obsessed. :P

Date: 2010-03-27 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
If they had a moment of romance earlier in the episode than maybe. But not as it stood

Date: 2010-03-27 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
Oh, but the table was s-o-o-o romantic!! :P

Yeah, couldn't have worked as is. I do like the idea of them going on a first date during Sacrifice. That would've been really great. *sigh*

Date: 2010-03-27 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stripes13.livejournal.com
Love the ideal episode there. It would absolutely fit in between Scar and Sacrifice.

Date: 2010-03-27 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
Because "oh boy, after all this, she gets the right man." *sigh*

But with all due respect...it wasn't about Kara getting a man, or to walk into the sunset. It should have been about Kara NEEDING LEE. SPECIFICALLY. Because she needed him, and he needed her. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Their whole relationship on the show underlined that need. How they needed each other first as fellow pilots and friends, and to work together and fight together and shepherd the other pilots together, and finally as lovers and support systems. In s4.0 every small moment they had together underlined how much they believed in each other and supported each other and yes, needed each other's love and support. So an ending that didn't pay that off for them, that basically left them okay with parting ways with each other for good, with no hint that they would soon circle back to each other, felt very disingenuous and in direct contrast to what their story had always been.

Date: 2010-03-27 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
Well as I said to sfs they didn't really show that elsewhere in the finale. Yes they showed it in Islanded but the finale as a whole? We had the table scene. If we just got something about needing each other and yes I could buy an ending about them needing each other. But there was no hint of partnership in the finale. It was all on her. In which case ending up with Lee reads strangely. I think the structure of the three hours as a whole would make a romantic ending odd.

Date: 2010-03-27 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
Exactly why that finale (for me) was all kinds of wrong. It turned its back on everything the show had been doing.

Date: 2010-03-27 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
The entire thing needs restructuring. I agree. A lot of it needs changing. See above re: Scar and Sacrifice

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