DPP: Did Anything Surprise You?

[winegums.livejournal.com]

BSG as a show threw many, many curveballs our way. But what I'm curious about today, Shipper Nation, is whether anything you learned about Kara or Lee - not plot developments, but any part of their backstory/background information - surprised you? And how did it make you feel? Did the surprise make sense or not?

For instance, I remember being very surprised in the miniseries that Kara was religious, and later that she and Zak had been engaged and not just dating. And later, that Lee's mother had been emotionally abusive. But what about you?


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Comments

[plaid-slytherin.livejournal.com]

It's hard for me to say, because I watched the entire thing after it had aired, so I didn't have a week between each episode to think about things. I think I just sort of took everything for granted and the picture of the show and characters I have is that we got at the end.

I will say, it through me for a loop when Lee quit the military, though I've come to like and accept it, it definitely did surprise me. I was also surprised that Kara died, though when she did, I was sure she'd come back.

[n-e-star.livejournal.com]

Because it is the black hole of OOC and suck I tend to ignore the events of "Black Market", but I was surprised - not by Lee's unwillingness to have kids, but his desertion of what's-her-name. Lee has always been shown as the guy who sticks out the situation no matter what (even after he should have left), so to see him just walk away from something...

[winegums.livejournal.com]

I was shocked he'd had a girlfriend with whom things were that serious in the first place, because WHY DID THE WRITERS NEVER SEE FIT TO EVEN HINT AT THAT for a miniseries +the better part of two seasons?

Black Market is basically crackfic that somehow got Jamie Bamber to act out some idiot Mary Sue fantasy, to me.

[n-e-star.livejournal.com]

But why couldn't they go with a good Mary Sue fantasy?

(thinks of several early fics that were boarder-line MS, all of which were more interesting then BM)

[anamarya.livejournal.com]

not by Lee's unwillingness to have kids,

IDK, I didn't see that particular episode in a while but I didn't got that vibe. I got more the vibe that we usually get in fics from Kara - like "I don't know what to say" or "I don't know if I'm ready to be a parent" or something like that. Maybe because I live surrounded by men I tent to see their POV so I guess that just like women need time to process this type of news men need it to. And the episode is not giving us enough information to see if it was a final decision on his part or just a temporary indecision/ bad reaction to the news.

in the craziness that was BM personally I was more surprised by the fact that the writers let him shoot Phelan. because usually the good-guys in the stories are not doing stuff like that.

[winegums.livejournal.com]

"I don't know what to say" or "I don't know if I'm ready to be a parent"

Yeah, that was the vibe I got too. And it's so weird because he arrives on Galactica in the miniseries with no hint at all that there's someone/such a big decision that he's got to make/recently made in his life - more proof of just how stupid and OOC this episode was.

[anamarya.livejournal.com]

how stupid and OOC this episode was.

Oh yes. It's like one of those Alternative Universe episodes that some series are so in love with.

[n-e-star.livejournal.com]

::points to icon::

[anamarya.livejournal.com]

I know there are exceptions (and I do like oh so much some of them) but those are guys that are known to bend the rules. For example if Kara would have made that kind of a thing I would not been surprised at all. Maybe good-guys wasn't the best expression to use. Follow-rulers might be closer to what I have in mind.

[anamarya.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, what surprised me? in the series as a whole I was surprised by stuff (like Tory being part of the Final Five and stuff and Dee killing herself) but from Kara and Lee? Not so much and not because they were predictable or something but because they were not. and from somebody unpredictable you kind of expect the unexpected. it was pretty clear from the beginning that they are not the typical characters so I sort of went with it.

Again, I was more surprised by the reaction of some characters to some of the things that Kara or Lee did or said. But I was surprised by the table. Because that seems inconsistent with what we know about them. I always prefer the deleted scene where Kara tells Lee that he will never leave the military and he says something about the fact that they know each-other for 1 hour and she's giving that kind of a verdict. THAT scene says more to me about their connection that the craziness of what went on-air.

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Weirdly, the table did not surprise me, but the fact that it was love at first sight for them, that did.

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

ooooh, i LURVED the love at first sight thing. I was really surprised by it, but man i was so, so excited they made that decision (basically the only choice in DB i liked.)

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Oh, it was definitely a GOOD surprise for me, the looks on their faces when they saw each other at the door....I won't lie, I got a little goosebumpy right there.

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

I knoooooow! I was so totally buying it. :D

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Yeah, the beginning of an epic romance lying in a moment as seemingly ordinary as that....how could I not love it?

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Kara: I honestly thought her father was dead, and was REALLY surprised in STWOM when it turned out her dad had walked out on the family, but it made so much sense.

The other big surprise was that she painted. REALLY surprised there, just as Helo was (ditto Lee's surprise at learning that she knew Caprican poetry).


Lee: I ignore Black Market, it is badfic to me, but learning about his mother helped put a lot of things about his character into perspective.

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

I think Kara writing poetry REALLY surprised me (far more than the artwork--which was very abstract and fit her persona well). That poem on the wall in the apartment... I don't know.

And I also thought her putting her hand on the glass at the end of Flesh and Bone was surprising and out of character, even though they tried hard to make the Leoben connection with religion to the point of beating you over the head with it. I can't believe at that stage in the series she could ever get that sympathetic to a cylon that she had that kind of remorse about them dying under ANY circumstances (not going to heaven, not resurrecting whatever). I just can't.

[anamarya.livejournal.com]

her putting her hand on the glass at the end of Flesh and Bone

that part was really strange. at least at that point in the series.

[winegums.livejournal.com]

There is one other thing that surprised me - the fact that child!Kara had long hair.

I always wondered when she cut it for the first time..

[wicked-sassy.livejournal.com]

Knowing now that Tauron men get tattoos, in retrospect, I find it surprising that Lee doesn't seem to have any (and neither does Bill, but we don't see him nearly nakey like we do with Lee).

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Hmmmm, I wouldn't really expect Lee to have tattoos. And he grew up on Caprica with his (I assume) Caprican mother - he's about two generations removed from the Tauron side of things and never connected to Bill till the miniseries, I don't really see him going out of his way to embrace that part of his heritage.

[velvety2010.livejournal.com]

I was very surprised by the table and was actually quite upset about it as i thought it was RDM's way of shouting 'see, this is why they were doomed!'. It still upsets me.