DPP Wednesday! Fight for Your Right to Multi-ship.

[apodixis.livejournal.com]

Some of us are die-hard 'Kara/Lee or no one!' shippers. Some of us have soft spots for the other relationships Kara and Lee ended up in throughout the series. And some may main-ship Kara or Lee with someone else entirely, but have been swayed by this lovely community to start understanding just why we love Starbuck and Apollo together.

So let's have at it!

Make your best case for who Lee and Kara belong with, other than each other.

Try to convince your fellow shippers why you love another pairing. Is there someone else Kara and Lee really connect with? Why? Although we know their other (established) relationships don't really work out towards the end of the show, do you think they would have, had the situations been different? Is there anyone on the show that you thought would have made a great significant other or frak buddy for either of them (but the writers just never went there)? Maybe some of us don't understand why you ship Kara and ?, or Lee and ?, so give us your best attempt at leading us over to the dark side.

If you're one of the dedicated few who can't see them with anyone else, then let's hear why you can't even begin to think of them apart!

Comments

[pocochina.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Dee always felt consistent and coherent to me, and her whole thing about how she was going to SAVE LEE because she knew she didn't have any prospect to make things better for herself is so realistic and tragic, which really doesn't have much to do with Kara, but it doesn't take away from Kara/Lee either. As much as I didn't love that things didn't work out well for her, I think she's a wonderful character. (I also think Sam had some great development once he got off Caprica, in fairness. I just really like Dee.)

I suppose when it comes to exploring what pilots want out of their relationships, or think they want, Dee and Sam made some sense.

Totally. I didn't realize that might not have been the point until well after I finished the show.

[winegums.livejournal.com]

To be honest, it's very hard to see Sam as an actual character, because he's always secondary to Kara and pretty much the only storylines he ever had for more than one episode were always tied to her.
(we never see his later reaction to making Saul poison Ellen on New Caprica, for instance. Or shooting off Gaeta's leg - which apparently Kara owes him for, ffs that should count as a screwup, does he even acknowledge what he did to the poor guy? Or even any more of the "I'm one of the Final Five!" thing, because that gets subsumed completely by Kara's return.). We see him angry and jealous and grieving, but there's just so little for him to do really that isn't "be Kara's love interest and be defined by her entirely").


For me, the only way to really make sense of Sam and Dee is to look at Unfinished Business, which made it clearer than crystal
that pilots didn't choose to marry them as an active choice because they wanted them - they did it as a rejection of each other. Same goes with TAB, Lee goes back to Dee and explicitly says that it's because the idea of Kara doing another runner would pretty much destroy him.

[pocochina.livejournal.com]

aw, I think Sam is great! I do really like S4.0, where he gets a lot of that development, but idk, mileage varies on that a lot, so.

For me, the only way to really make sense of Sam and Dee is to look at Unfinished Business, which made it clearer than crystal
that pilots didn't choose to marry them as an active choice because they wanted them - they did it as a rejection of each other.

hm. That's a fair reading. I'm pretty invested in them not being entirely about each other, obviously, so I tend to go with the NC events being more the precipitating event that tipped them toward barreling forward with their respective marriages, rather than the sole motivator, if that makes sense. And I think for me, that's a lot more interesting and believable and sympathetic. They're a part of each others' lives in this integral way that they don't examine enough to want to change it, but that means they have and need whole other lives which also have to really matter, or there's no stakes. It feels earned because it's messy and not necessarily mutually exclusive to everything else.

...I love them for the ~pain. so, so much.