DPP: Pilots and PapAdama....... (a.k.a. We Are Family)

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Today's DPP is something that I'd be willing to bet all of us have thought about at some point or other: the fact that Bill Adama sees both Lee and Kara as his children. He can also clearly be a (inadvertent) source of friction between the two of them, given that in their very first scene together in the miniseries, he was the first thing they argued about - but what impact does he have on the way Lee and Kara relate to each other?




In canon, PapAdama seems to be completely unaware of the fact that Lee and Kara have a connection that's more than just platonic or familial, especially since they often act like siblings when they're around him. (see below: it's rather telling that Kara is the one who knows the story and not Lee).


On the other hand, pilots in canon seem to see their relationship with each other - and especially the romantic part of it - as completely separate from their relationship with Bill. (sample: in UB and also afterward, neither of them brings up his reaction as a possible obstacle to them getting together). So how do you see them, shippers?

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I think I fangirled Papa before I became a shipper, so I'm biased :D
I see him as borderline omniscient :D But srsly, I do think that in order to lead well, he needs to be able to read people very well and with all the eyefrakking, etc, that Pilots do, someone as good at reading people as he would need to be could not have missed it. Yes, he'd miss the details and no he wouldn't swear to it, but he'd have strong suspicions about their feelings. Or fears about them, more like. Like he knows the two of them enough to know they're great together (chemistry-wise).
I think I assume a lot about Papa that may not be supported in canon...but I had to pick it up somewhere...I didn't come to BSG an EJO fangirl so I wasn't biased to begin...
And the way he broke the news I just assumed was ultra-casual to cover for how not casual the moment really was. It was an subliminal cue to Lee to Hold It Together, son, this is not Your Beeswax.
Papa sees all. :P
ETA:typo fixes and a bit of clarification...not enough, though, I'm afraid :)

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all the eyefrakking, etc, that Pilots do

See that's just the thing, I never see them do it around him! With PapAdama, they basically turn into children when they're not in soldier!mode, so it'd be that much easier for him to block out anything he didn't want to process. I mean, even when they basically try to kill each other in the boxing ring and end up hugging like children in front of an audience that includes their spouses...nothing from Daddy.

I love him as a character too, so I really don't think I'm biased either - though maybe I am, since I really wanted him to notice what was up between pilots/acknowledge it in some small way, at least to himself or in the wake of Kara's death.

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at least to himself or in the wake of Kara's death.

Word. But I reserve the right to believe we just didn't see that part :P

Yeah, I think I can concede that I have a tendency to see what I wanna see (maybe that's why I like Papa so much *snicker*)...

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But I reserve the right to believe we just didn't see that part :P

I wish we had :( Though I do still not believe in this the way I do in Lee and Kara going much further than just Raptor outmaking during the affair :)