DPP: Rules

Aug. 26th, 2011 05:47 pm
[identity profile] anamarya.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] no_takebacks
Every once in a while, usually sooner than later we end up speaking about obeying/stretching/breaking the rules.

Usually we tend to see Lee as going by the book and Kara being the one to break all the rules.

So, today's question fro the shipper nation is: what do you think? is it true? is it false? or is it just blown out of proportion?

Date: 2011-08-26 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugarhaven.livejournal.com
It's interesting that being near death would reduce Kara's respect and caution towards the gods, given that it might equally easily have pushed her into more serious efforts to live by their rules, since she expected to be meeting them soon and facing the consequences for any sins she chose in life

I fully agree. It is so hard to really see what was going on in Kara's head at that time. I don't think she made a complete 180 with her beliefs though. I think that on a spur of a moment, she is saying "frak it, the gods already have plenty to punish me for so breaking a vow I gave to the wrong guy will merely add one on my list". Still it feels that agreeing to the divorce was a massive step for Kara and deep down maybe she was really terrified that the gods will punish her by killing of Lee or Sam. Also, Kara believes that she is a screw-up and given her role in Zak's death, has hard time trusting her heart and decisions made out of love

As filmed, it seemed to me that religiosity was a distant second in her motivations. The most important thing that changed her mind was that Lee refused to continue as before and broke things off with her completely, hardly seeing her at all in the time she was recovering. I think that drove home to her that she had to make a choice she didn't want to make, that she couldn't have Lee on the terms she preferred (an affair). I think she decided she couldn't live without him, and so was willing to accept his terms on the divorce question.

Totally agree. Plus she felt like it was her fault that they got into that situation in the first place. I so wished the extended TAB scene was not deleted. It conveys so much and the acting is so perfect.

Date: 2011-08-27 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
Kara believes that she is a screw-up and given her role in Zak's death, has hard time trusting her heart and decisions made out of love.

I really agree -- that right there seems to be at the heart of so much of what she does.

Date: 2011-08-28 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] requialexa.livejournal.com
Jumping in at the last here, but I really loved the above discussion.

Kara believes that she is a screw-up and given her role in Zak's death, has hard time trusting her heart and decisions made out of love.

I think this also means she feels unworthy of the Gods' love/redemption so I'm sure she has many moments of "Why do I even bother trying when I'm too far gone anyway?" Especially when she seems to be constantly thrown into peril by the Gods she so fervently believes in. I think her faith in the gods is strong, but her faith in herself is where the lack is...

She tries to sacrifice her love for Lee (and also there's an element of trying to force his hand) by saying she won't divorce...tries to submit to the very minimum of what is 'required' (because, really, if the gods know her, how could they expect more?) but then she almost dies anyway...and is still miserable (of course yes, She could have swung the other way...) so she decides to just throw in the towel. I'm sure she's had this push-pull before in many areas of her life!

Date: 2011-08-28 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugarhaven.livejournal.com
I think this also means she feels unworthy of the Gods' love/redemption so I'm sure she has many moments of "Why do I even bother trying when I'm too far gone anyway?" Especially when she seems to be constantly thrown into peril by the Gods she so fervently believes in. I think her faith in the gods is strong, but her faith in herself is where the lack is...

Very well said. This is exactly what I am thinking, just did not know how to put it in words.

Date: 2011-08-28 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
I love your whole comment, but this in particular rang true to me:

I think her faith in the gods is strong, but her faith in herself is where the lack is...

Thank you for your insights!

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