[identity profile] howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] no_takebacks
Hey guys, it's Friday!!! Woooooooooooooooooop!!!!

I've had an awesome week of fandom fun with all of you guys, we've talked about imaginary stuff, pilots set to music, pilots as other people and fics that make us click. We've swooned and squeed over Bamceps and the incredible bromance of Fassbender and Macavoy, we've reccomended our favourite fics and hopefully people have had the opportunity to read some things they haven't read before, and generally, I like to think, we've had an all-round good time. Thanks everyone for playing along, I've had a blast :) I've got one more post set up for tomorrow, but today is my last discussiony one, the weekend is something different.

So today I thought we'd talk about things we would have liked to see, missing scenes that never were sort of thing. Are there questions you think are unanswered? Are there moments that you wish we had been shown? And bear in mind this is not a fix-it, not a what would you have changed, I'm talking about scenes or conversations which have no overall change on canon or the outcome of the show, but that you feel would have made that episode better, made a later scene make more sense, or would just have really liked to have seen.

For instance -

I really wish that we had seen more of their interaction in Scar - I want to know what happened between them kissing in the rec room to stripping in the bunk room, and I know that it's fairly obvious what happened in the general sense, but I am greedy when it comes to pilots actually getting it on, and wish we had seen the whole sequence, seen how they reacted to the initial kiss, how they got themselves to the bunkroom, I just want MORE!

I also want to see more of the scene at the end of Resurrection Ship II where he drops the "I didn't want to come back" bomb, because I really want to know how she reacted to that, what she said. And I know that there's lots of really good fic that hypothesise the outcome, but obviously it became a point of estrangement between them given the following episodes, and I just would like to know what actually happened.

What about you guys?

Date: 2011-07-01 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaliak.livejournal.com
I have a feeling like that would have happened over a letter or something because Lee seems pretty friendly towards her when they're first shown in the mini...right up until they talk about Adama.

It's possible that it was something that they didn't talk about directly, but rather just continued with a loose, superficial friendship. Written letters, quick phone calls about nothing, maybe a leave or two together?

Something to think about...

Date: 2011-07-01 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winegums.livejournal.com
Hmmmm, possible. Though somehow I never saw Kara as much of a letter-writing type, especially about huge, important life changes like going off to serve under Lee's estranged dad.

Now I really need to go revisit the miniseries, you're right they seemed friendly enough at first until the conversation turned to DadAdama - I don't know why I'm left with the impression that they hadn't seen each other at all in the two years since the funeral.

Date: 2011-07-01 07:22 pm (UTC)
lizziec: (BSG - Starbuck angst)
From: [personal profile] lizziec
I don't know why I'm left with the impression that they hadn't seen each other at all in the two years since the funeral.

I'm fairly sure it's explicitly mentioned in the brig scene, which is kind of a shame because it makes it difficult to insert my own fanon in to :(
Edited Date: 2011-07-01 07:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-07-01 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winegums.livejournal.com
Ugh, stupid brain and failing memory (mine).

And it's too bad we have no possibility of pilots on shore leave together in those two years, though I suppose it makes their eventual reunion that much more powerful.

Date: 2011-07-01 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaliak.livejournal.com
It's possible that they didn't because now that I remember, I think they said something about "how long's it been? 2 years?" or something like that.

Those two years hold so much possibility....

Date: 2011-07-01 07:28 pm (UTC)
lizziec: (BSG - Apollo & Starbuck (Home))
From: [personal profile] lizziec
It's possible that it was something that they didn't talk about directly, but rather just continued with a loose, superficial friendship.

I like this idea. I could see them almost doing a dance around safe subjects trying to avoid any mention of the major thing they disagree about hugely - Bill Adama. Presumably from Kara's pov she can forgive Bill for whatever sin she thinks he may have committed as far as Zak is concerned because she has that huge one on her own conscience, while for Lee, who knows nothing of her own culpability it's all about the fact that he feels Bill is responsible. While there's all that baggage and (from Kara) subterfuge it will always be a subject to be avoided.

I'd like to think that they would value their friendship more than a blazing row over Bill and who is responsible for Zak's death. That is, if it wasn't shown in the mini that they hadn't seen each other in two years.

Date: 2011-07-01 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaliak.livejournal.com
There's several fics that have touched on this a bit, one that includes a series of letters & phone calls between them during that time.

And on that note, there's Ship-to-Ship (http://brynnmck.livejournal.com/46471.html) (ha! I remembered the fic this time!) which is about when Lee becomes commander on the Pegasus, and he's relationship with Kara, especially after Razor. I think it's a perfect description of their relationship.

Date: 2011-07-01 10:52 pm (UTC)
lizziec: (BSG - Starbuck smile)
From: [personal profile] lizziec
Oh. I've never read Ship-to-Ship before. It's beautiful - and one of those rare occasions with fic where I really want to incorporate it in to Canon.

*sighs happily*

Thanks :)

Date: 2011-07-02 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaliak.livejournal.com
Isn't it lovely?? It's one of my fav pilots fics.

You know I remember going through about 3 months where I read every fic written about pilots and at this point many of them blur together (keep in mind, this was circa '08) and then there's the new stuff.

Haha.

I feel better knowing that out there in several places, our pilots are happy together.

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