DPP: In the spaces in between

[howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com]

Hey guys, it's Friday!!! Woooooooooooooooooop!!!!

I've had an awesome week of fandom fun with all of you guys, we've talked about imaginary stuff, pilots set to music, pilots as other people and fics that make us click. We've swooned and squeed over Bamceps and the incredible bromance of Fassbender and Macavoy, we've reccomended our favourite fics and hopefully people have had the opportunity to read some things they haven't read before, and generally, I like to think, we've had an all-round good time. Thanks everyone for playing along, I've had a blast :) I've got one more post set up for tomorrow, but today is my last discussiony one, the weekend is something different.

So today I thought we'd talk about things we would have liked to see, missing scenes that never were sort of thing. Are there questions you think are unanswered? Are there moments that you wish we had been shown? And bear in mind this is not a fix-it, not a what would you have changed, I'm talking about scenes or conversations which have no overall change on canon or the outcome of the show, but that you feel would have made that episode better, made a later scene make more sense, or would just have really liked to have seen.

For instance -

I really wish that we had seen more of their interaction in Scar - I want to know what happened between them kissing in the rec room to stripping in the bunk room, and I know that it's fairly obvious what happened in the general sense, but I am greedy when it comes to pilots actually getting it on, and wish we had seen the whole sequence, seen how they reacted to the initial kiss, how they got themselves to the bunkroom, I just want MORE!

I also want to see more of the scene at the end of Resurrection Ship II where he drops the "I didn't want to come back" bomb, because I really want to know how she reacted to that, what she said. And I know that there's lots of really good fic that hypothesise the outcome, but obviously it became a point of estrangement between them given the following episodes, and I just would like to know what actually happened.

What about you guys?

Comments

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Probably THE most obvious: how they went from the whispered "I missed you"s in Unfinished Business to EoJ Raptor outmaking (and the eternal question: was the outmaking really all they did in that time?).

That, and a little filler on how they became friends after getting off that table in the Daybreak, Part 2 flashback - there was a long journey between that and the brig scene in the miniseries, and I'd have liked to see more of it than a photograph.

[bouncy-nut.livejournal.com]

"was the outmaking really all they did in that time?"

No. I've decided the answer is no. They had lots and lots of dirty cheating sex. Glad that's settled. :)

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Oh, and I'm on board with wishing the camera had stayed with our pilots from the rec room to the bunkroom in Scar - all that hotness that didn't make it to the screen!

Other things I really wish we'd seen more of: pilots eyefrakking each other in the months between finding New Caprica and the UB flashbacks (you know it didn't just come out of nowhere, and during the dancing it looked like they'd stepped it up even MORE than usual) and - though I know it was only in Kara's head - the entire Leegasm sexing.

[rdave1.livejournal.com]

I love Farewell by tamsibling. It's all S4 but we get to see all the little things that "happened" that we didn't see on screen.

[amaliak.livejournal.com]

There was a deleted scene in Razor that I wish we'd seen more of. The idea of pilots helping each other work through their personal issues makes me happy because it speaks to a deeper friendship....

*sigh*



Also the idea of pilots going through life-and-death situations and the camaraderie of being soldiers together. I'm a sucker for that too.



cheers.
--Lex










(what, no Fassy??)

I wouldn't let you down like that.

[winegums.livejournal.com]

I want to believe it wasn't, either. By the time we saw them, Kara had already been fiddling the Raptor schedules for a week so she could get Lee (I think it was the third time that week), so the answer leans towards no - even Lee can't have spent all that time angsting to her about cheating/not cheating.

[lizziec]

I also want to see more of the scene at the end of Resurrection Ship II where he drops the "I didn't want to come back" bomb, because I really want to know how she reacted to that, what she said.

I'd love to have seen that too, though I've always assumed the reason the writers didn't show it was because they had absolutely no idea how she'd react, which is kind of sad for Kara's characterisation.

I'm also with winegums over wanting to see a bit more of what happened between the first time they meet in the Daybreak flashbacks and the Brig scene in the mini. Stuff clearly happened because of 1) the photo and 2) the way they talk in the mini isn't the way two people who had only had an awkward, guilt inducing encounter would talk.

I'd quite like to see Lee visit Kara in sickbay. We see Bill and Baltar, but not lee until SDoS (well I suppose there's that short bit in the Litmus deleted scene...) and he must have gone to see her before then.

I'd like to have seen what induced Kara to go off with Baltar on the night of Colonial Day - what happened between the start of the dance and what we see at the start of KLG.

Finally, I'd have loved to see some more of them in the Mutiny arc. They were just so kick-ass and awesome together in that set of episodes that more would have been brilliant.

[poppypickle.livejournal.com]

I feel like I have said this a bunch of times, but I would have LOVED to have seen them have a REAL conversation during "Taking a Break from All Your Worries." That episode is such a mess but it had the potential to be so good. I'm fine if you don't end up together...just have a real conversation about it that doesn't feel totally random!

[poppypickle.livejournal.com]

Probably THE most obvious: how they went from the whispered "I missed you"s in Unfinished Business to EoJ Raptor outmaking (and the eternal question: was the outmaking really all they did in that time?).

OH YEAH. This times a billion.

[mserrada.livejournal.com]

We know that at some point Kara tells Lee at least a little of what happened to her on New Caprica, because he references it in Maelstrom.

I really wished we'd seen them talking (sure, sexy times, too) after UB, but actually having a real conversation together. I always imagined that it took place after Lee finds her in the memorial hall after Kat's death.

[howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com]

yeeees...this is a good one. I want this too! I cannot believe they would stop at outmaking, simply cannot, especially as they had already had sex, people don't go from having sex to just kissing and considering that an affair. But I would like to see how they got to that point.

Lords yes! Their relationship pre-mini should just be it's own show! Screw Blood and Chrome and the first Cylon war, I want to see Kara and Lee and Zak running around and playing pyramid and generally all being in love in a weird three-headed kind of way, and all kind of hating it but needing it and being simultaneously happy and miserable. They should make THAT show.

[howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com]

"all that hotness that didn't make it to the screen!"

I KNOW! And awkwardness too, I bet. Awkward hotness that I WANT TO HAVE WITNESSED! DAMN YOU BATTLESTAR!

Your two ideas I am totally on board with, there would be something really interesting about watching the whole of Kara's fantasy, where it began in the proceedings, how the Lee in her brain would act. And yeah, anything from the time between the election and groundbreaking I would love to see, because there's just nothing there.

[howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com]

Ooh, I haven't read that one...this week has bee rife with unread fic for me! :D

[howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com]

GAH I still haven't watched that deleted scene! What is wrong with me!? To my Blu-rays I go!

And pilots being soldiery I would love to have seen more of, they work so well together in those situations :)

Haha! I honestly was thinking there was a lack of Fassbender going on, you psyched me out! Well played, sir, well played.

[howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com]

"I'd quite like to see Lee visit Kara in sickbay. We see Bill and Baltar, but not lee until SDoS (well I suppose there's that short bit in the Litmus deleted scene...) and he must have gone to see her before then."

YES! I was considering putting this, but then I got distracted, but yeah I would have loved to have seen him visiting her, maybe with a deck of cards and some recroom stories, would have been awesome.

And more running scenes, well, any running scenes, I count the deleted from KLG, but we actually didn't get any.

[howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com]

WORD.

[howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com]

Ha, I like that you're allowing the sexy times :P Yeah, that would have been good to see, I am in favour of pilots talking, because it seems like they did quite a bit, but you never see it :(

[lizziec]

And more running scenes, well, any running scenes, I count the deleted from KLG, but we actually didn't get any.

Lee was so adorable with his running song. I love that KLG deleted scene :D

[howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com]

He was just adorable in general during her entire recovery, with the badgering and the baiting and getting her out of bed. That's why it's so sad when he finds out about Baltar, because he's been so relentlessly cheerful and I'm certain it's because she's alive, and then it all goes wrong :(

[amaliak.livejournal.com]

It's such a nice scene!! And I wish they would have kept it as a book-end to Scar. I feel like they TALKED about everything except them and I would have liked to see this. I really am a big believer in their deep friendship.

And don't worry.



I got this.

[lizziec]

He was just adorable in general during her entire recovery, with the badgering and the baiting and getting her out of bed.

Yes! I mean, just look at his face here when she shows up in SDoS.

[winegums.livejournal.com]

You know what else I'd like to have seen? Their conversation about Kara accepting Bill's offer of a post on Galactica right after Zak's death (or however Lee found out about it, but I'd like to believe she would have told him herself). Put an angry Lee who blames his father for Zak's death together with Kara who blames herself for Zak's death, and the angst, and their friendship - that scene would probably hurt my heart, but it's still an important one in the tangled and messy history of pilots.

Considering it put a two-year rift between them, I REALLY wish we'd actually seen it, maybe in AoC.

[amaliak.livejournal.com]

I agree. Kara has the tendency to just blurt things out, especially when she's feeling guilty. And Lee has always been a good ear for that, imo.

Them dealing with each other's inevitable demise is something that I think could have been explored more.

There's a scene in a fic (again, I can't remember which one right now) where they have a secret relationship and they get caught so Lee tells Kara that they should wait until the right time, but after a nasty cylon attack where Kara nearly died, she says "I'm curious, just how much time do you think we have?"
It's a lovely statement and so true.



cheers.
--Lex

[lizziec]

That last gif cracks me up. Sherlock++

[winegums.livejournal.com]

yeah, it's so strongly suggested - but considering the amount of time they spend NOT saying the important things to each other, a little bit of showing when they do would've been nice.

Though in a weird way, I like that it's such a given that they'd have these huge, important conversations with each other and not every one of them has to be a Special Moment Onscreen (if that even makes sense).