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I'm [livejournal.com profile] queenofthorns and I shall be piloting the DPP (for the first time!!) this week. Kudos to all my fellow drivers, who have set the bar so high that I've been racking my brains to figure out what to do that hasn't been done before. Then I said to myself, hey, nothing wrong with some kissing, right? It IS Valentine's Day!

There have been five great kisses since 1642 B.C. when Saul and Delilah Korn's inadvertent discovery swept across Western civilization. (Before then couples hooked thumbs.) And the precise rating of kisses is a terribly difficult thing, often leading to great controversy, because although everyone agrees with the formula of affection times purity times intensity times duration, no one has ever been completely satisfied with how much weight each element should receive. But on any system, there are five that everyone agrees deserve full marks. Well, this one left them all behind.
--- William Goldman, The Princess Bride


Now I'm going to ask you to vote for which one of the pilots' great kisses leaves all the others behind. In the comments, please tell me which is your favorite of the kisses depicted below, and if you wish, why it's you fave.









The last kiss is the one that Kara gives Lee during "The Oath" and it's not so much her kissing him that gets me as it is what she says afterwards: "All we can count on is you and me." SIGH!

Doing this mini picspam led me to the shocking realization that there are only SIX kisses onscreen in canon! So, if you would like to tell me about some MORE times that Kara and Lee should have kissed (but sadly did not) I would love to hear about them.

Date: 2011-02-14 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
First, a little help on that last one:

Image (http://s784.photobucket.com/albums/yy126/scifishipper/BSG/BSG%20GIFS/?action=view&current=karaleemutinykiss.gif)

THE BEST KISS???????
For pure sexiness, I have to say EoJ. My gods, it's the hottest kissing scene EVAH! WOW. I only have this sloooooooow and hot version of the kiss, but whoa!

Image (http://s784.photobucket.com/albums/yy126/scifishipper/BSG/BSG%20GIFS/?action=view&current=EOJ1.gif)

And even though you only say six kisses, I have to assume that you mean six scenes of kissing because they kissed a lot out in that field on NC. Ahem.

Date: 2011-02-14 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wand3rlust.livejournal.com
Jeebus woman! You're killing me with the hotness of the sloooow gif. *stares*

Date: 2011-02-16 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nazkey.livejournal.com
Seriously, this GIF always makes me want to go read RPF! The tongue action! OMG, the tongue action!

Date: 2011-02-14 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damao2010.livejournal.com
If I have to rank just the kiss itself, I'll with EOJ. It is hot and sexy as hell. Besides, in spite of the minor detail that was their marriage to other people, they were in a more hopeful mood, I guess. I'd put the brig scene one in a close second place. It feels sadder and more desperate, but it's also much more emotional - there are so many emotions at play there and they are so heartfelt.

Date: 2011-02-14 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indigo419.livejournal.com
EoJ kissing is hot like a hot volcano, but my favorite of their kisses is Scar, after she slaps him, because it's so full of all the things that bind them together and tear them apart: Zak, love, lust, friendship, duty, guilt, etc. Gah!

Date: 2011-02-14 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
I love this comment. The Scar kiss just makes me ache in the best way, because everything you described is so true. It isn't a "peck"... it's a full-on, full of angst and pain kiss that lingers. And I love that it's the moment his hands rise up to her hair that she walks away.

So, so sad.

Date: 2011-02-14 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wand3rlust.livejournal.com
I totally agree about the Scar kiss after the slap. It breaks me so much!

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Date: 2011-02-14 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koolaidmom11.livejournal.com
The hottest kiss is definitely EoJ but for me, personally i love the extended Brig scene because it's the most emotional and loving connection i've ever seen them have. Also, because it was all so FUCKED UP AFTER THAT which still pisses me off.

Scar is too painful for me...i'm too old for that shit

Date: 2011-02-14 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
IT'S SOPHIE'S CHOICE ALL UP IN HERE I SEE! Awesome Princess Bride quote! (Makes me think Saul Korn is alias for Saul Tigh, possibly.)

;)

(And hey you didn't include the Daybreak flashback table smoochage that we can't frakking see at all! Just hear!)

I am so torn. Unfinished Business is romantic finally! EOJ is so yearny-hot. Scar is so apologetic/meaningful. (And that's also pretty hot too! Evidence:

Image (http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb156/TaraGel/Fannishness/Fan%20GIfs/?action=view&current=SCARMAKEOUT.gif)

And look here--see how red her mouth is?

Image (http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb156/TaraGel/Fannishness/?action=view&current=kmouthred.jpg)

OKAY but my two favorite kisses are probably the sweet, surprised kiss of Home and the Six of One brig kiss which is so desperate and comforting at the same time and how he kisses her whole face. Yes, I think I have to go with that one. BECAUSE THERE ARE BONUS KISSES on eyelids and brows and cheeks and THEY CAN'T STOP THE KISSING. And because they both need it so much.

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Edited Date: 2011-02-14 05:29 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-02-14 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddt73.livejournal.com
There are more then 6 on screen kisses. They kissed 4 times in Scar, 4 in UB, and at least that many in EoJ alone. Let me see I can find some "proof" to back it up hehe.

Date: 2011-02-15 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baciami2.livejournal.com
Now I know why I learned to count! No more sheep late at night for me...

Date: 2011-02-14 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wand3rlust.livejournal.com
if you would like to tell me about some MORE times that Kara and Lee should have kissed (but sadly did not) I would love to hear about them.

One of the scenes that always stands out in my mind as a gigantic missed opportunity is in Lay Your Burden's Down Pt1 when Lee calls Kara into his office to "discuss" the sar plan. I know all of this is after the craziness of Scar, Sacrifice and Captain's Hand, but despite all that it's very obvious he's called her in as an excuse to see her. He's fidgety, nervous and I'm sure some of it is just worry, but I'm convinced a lot of it was fear she might not make it back at all. Even Kara looks nervous and confused in the scene, especially after Lee tells her he hopes she finds Sam. I wish instead of holding back he would have just stood up told her to please make it back safe and kissed her. I think things may have turned out very differently.

Date: 2011-02-14 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
Aw... You need to write this, hon. *heavy sigh* That would be a perfect twist to the scene.

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Date: 2011-02-14 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninety6tears.livejournal.com
I have to go with the brig kiss. It's perfect. Though I definitely have a hard time leaving out "Home" and "Scar." They had too few kisses, but most of them are so amazing and emotionally important and all have a very different mood...

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Date: 2011-02-14 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anamarya.livejournal.com
The last kiss is the one that Kara gives Lee during "The Oath" and it's not so much her kissing him that gets me as it is what she says afterwards: "All we can count on is you and me." SIGH!
i love this comment.

I'll have to go with the majority and say that on a hotness scale the one(s) from EoJ is the best. But I like them all for different reasons and its hard to chose just one. The one from the rig is full of emotion, the last one from Scar depicts their relationship so well that makes me want to strangle them each time, ok, UB is UB and I'm skipping it because is too bitter-sweet for me at this hour.... BUT if I had, like really had to chose one i'll go with the one from Home. Don't ask me why because I do not know.

ok, kisses that weren't.... hmmm.... too long of a list so i'll stick with early season 1 for now: Kara coming back in ICGHA and Lee coming back in HoG.

Date: 2011-02-14 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kdbleu.livejournal.com
I love the final kiss in Scar. It breaks my heart because Kara's so Kara and Lee's so Lee in that moment. *sigh*

Kisses that should have been...
There's a moment in UB when Kara's taunting Lee into fighting her, where I think they're going to kiss every single time I watch, no matter how many times I've seen the scene.

Date: 2011-02-14 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wand3rlust.livejournal.com
I know right?! That whole scene from the time she drops her tags in until he shoves her out of the way lights me up. It's intensely hot. I think even on the commentary of the extended version the editor guy said something along the lines about not really knowing at first if they were gonna fight or make out.

Date: 2011-02-14 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pressdbtwnpages.livejournal.com
Really? SIX? Man they do an excellent job of conveying intimacy with only six kisses in the series.

I love the fifth kiss. It's not necessarily super romantic or sexy, but, again, it's really INTIMATE.

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Date: 2011-02-14 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyras.livejournal.com
I adore the last one. I can't help it - I'm a sucker for angst, and this, for me, is the point where the pair of them have broken down all their barriers; no more pretence, no more posing, just: they love each other completely for what they are. ♥ ♥ ♥

Date: 2011-02-15 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aurora-0811.livejournal.com
The brig kiss in Six of One is hands down my favorite kiss EVAH. It was filled with everything they could never find the right words to say out loud. It was love, friendship, promise, hope and faith. I feel like for once both of their walls were down and they just gave into what they felt. Lee kisses her over and over, he holds her and Kara accepts what he gives. She doesn't pull away or try and downplay it. She allows herself to feel it all. There was something very powerful about that to me and mixed with the deleted scene (it's my canon...I don't care) where he gives her Aurora and she hangs on to it. There was a deeper promise between them of always staying connected and coming back to each other. Yes, yes that's it...right? :)

Date: 2011-02-15 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baciami2.livejournal.com
Okay, my fav kiss is one that hasn't been discussed above and is rarely if ever discussed. My fav has evolved over time as I've sort of maxed out on angst. I adore the kiss when Kara and Lee are naked after making love and he's trying to say that it's all as simple as just telling Dee and Sam that they are together now. He quickly kisses her, then jumps up naked to proclaim his love. It's as if he can't stand to be separated from her physically by even a few feet. It's quick and sweet and almost reminds me of two people have been in a relationship for a long time - it's so casual. I imagine that if they were together (*sighhhhhhhhs*), then Lee would be doing a lot of quick pecks just because he loved Kara and he loved that he could do it!

Date: 2011-02-15 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
*hugs this comment*

I've had exactly the same thought about that kiss. Such a natural feel to it. *sigh*

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Date: 2011-02-15 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elzed.livejournal.com
Oh, I have to go with EoJ kissage all the way - it's so passionate and uber hot, plus, if you look at the slo-mo animation like above, you can see that there is actual tongue (Jamie tongue, be still my beating heart) and I totally fanwank this into RPF "they are actually having an affair off screen" land, which totally works with my twisted mind, as it adds layers of guilt and angst and hotness into the mix, both real and fictional...

Yes, I am a little screwed up like that. ;)

Date: 2011-02-16 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nazkey.livejournal.com
Hahahahaha. This is awesome, because every time I see that GIF, I want to run and read RPF! EVERY TIME! So you're not alone in your screwed-upness :-)

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Date: 2011-02-15 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kdbleu.livejournal.com
I love that the capture quality and tinting on the UB kiss makes it look like a worn photograph. *sigh*

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Date: 2011-02-15 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddt73.livejournal.com
Here's all the the on air kisses of K&L:

First is Home 1, then a series of them in Scar (first one is in the flashes at the beg of the episode), then a series of them in UB, EoJ, then Six of One, The Oath and the one we can't really see only hear Daybreak.


Image (http://s1186.photobucket.com/albums/z366/bsg_clips/?action=view&current=Onscreenkisses.png)

Date: 2011-02-15 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anamarya.livejournal.com
this is so-so great... you made my morning.

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Date: 2011-02-15 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fifi4life.livejournal.com
In terms of a moment I wished they had kissed would have to be the under the wing scene in maelstrom, right after she said I guess that's all we'll ever be. I know it wouldn't have fit into the plot at that time, but just the way he looks at her after she says it, makes it seem like it would've been just right.

Date: 2011-02-15 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fifi4life.livejournal.com
Nothing overtly passionate, mind you, just a tender kiss that would've let her know he was always there for her.

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Date: 2011-02-16 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nazkey.livejournal.com
My favorites are definitely EoJ just in terms of pure hotness, and then the brig scene in Six of One for the intimacy of it. There is so much there.

The few times that I feel like they should've definitely kiss (and probably wanted to kiss) are in the mini, when Lee comes back from the dead and pulls Kara out from under her viper. The hand holding that is just a wee bit too long ... I always feel like Kara's really holding herself back and secretly wants to just hug the crap out of him, which of course, would lead to him kissing her ;-)

The second time is the memorial hallway scene where he tells her it's just Lee & Kara and the rest of it doesn't matter and caresses her face. Again, I feel like he might've wanted to just lean in and kiss her. Not necessarily in a passionate way, but intimately ... to show her he means it.

The third time (and this is totally wishful thinking on my part) is when he comes into the bunkroom to "meet" Sam and she jumps up and hugs him. I always feel like if he had just held on and planted one on her, things would've turned out differently.

And ... um, the "are we okay" scene, if Dee hadn't interrupted, there might've been a kiss after that hug. No?

Great topic bb!

Date: 2011-02-16 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kdbleu.livejournal.com
The third time (and this is totally wishful thinking on my part) is when he comes into the bunkroom to "meet" Sam and she jumps up and hugs him. I always feel like if he had just held on and planted one on her, things would've turned out differently.

I love this!!! That is one of my favorite completely awkward, realistic scenes. Lee totally should have kissed Kara right in front of Sam. Perfect!

The "are we okay" scene too. I could see that kiss, easily. hee

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Date: 2011-02-16 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosetteferaud.livejournal.com
OK, I know I am super late to the party but I wanted to stop by and leave a comment :) This has been a lovely topic and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed reading all these answers! As for my favorite kiss… That’s really tough, actually. I love Kara and Lee’s their kisses to bits, all of them are memorable and meaningful in their own way. Maybe aesthetically, I’d go for the EoJ kissing because it’s so hot and sexy, and these two just look awesome together (and I definitely love the tongue action going on there, heh). But I adore the brig scene kiss as well, because of the intimacy –I think this is probably their most honest moment. I love how Lee covers with kisses every inch of Kara’s face and she just accepts it all. It’s gorgeous and perfect. ♥ ♥ ♥

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