It's the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

Welcome everyone! First of all, thanks very much for joining this comm and the rewatch! Hope you will enjoy the experience and all the piloty goodness ahead of us! Since this is the official launching of the rewatch, today—and exceptionally—we'll post two entries. Mine is a picspammy—and a mishmash of crack and meta—approach to the miniseries, and Bee will be doing one of her gorgeous and patented meta-poetry-fics. So fasten your seatbelts... And enjoy! ;)

Thanks to _snitchbitch  for the beautiful screencaps

 

I definitely remember my first "contact" with BSG and pilots. It was October 2007 and I was looking for some information on-line about a certain sci-fi show with human-looking robots and gorgeous pilots. Sadly, the experience ended up being traumatic, to say the least. Why? They say that an image says more than 1000 words... And if you have any doubts, just take a look at the ugliest and tackiest promo pics I had ever seen...

Awful, aren’t they? Fortunately, I didn’t let that obnoxious spectacle mislead me and, after reading a bunch of enthusiastic reviews, I decided to give the mini a try. Two years later—after tons of squee, anticipation, excitement and tears—those pictures are not so hard on the eye anymore, but hilarious and sort of endearing :)

 

And after this cracky warming up, fellow shippers, let's get serious!

 

We Are All Made of Stars

One of the first things I noticed while watching the mini again was how innocent and clean looks the whole cast. It was so odd to see how young and naîve they all seemed—save Roslin, maybe, who manages to look rather older. It hurts to see characters like Gaeta—it's painfully ironic, but the first scene of Felix shows him telling Adama how he appreciates and respects him—Dee, Billy, Cally, Boomer, and of course, Kara and Lee, back when they were so innocent and hopeful, unaware of the tragedies lying ahead of them.

I couldn’t repress a certain feeling of nostalgia—and a sense of loss—as I realized how much all this characters went through during their four-year journey and how much they suffered and endured… And with that—how little they had after the end of the worlds, how terrifying those first moments were for all of them. How complete the apocalypse.

But that’s why I fell for this show, I guess. Because it was an enthralling tale of human survival that, right from the get-go, put on the table the ultimate question of whether to run or fight when it sinks in that the human race has been reduced to 50,000 people.

Extraordinary Girl

Starbuck. Liutenent Kara Thrace. Even though right now I consider myself first and foremost a Kara/Lee shipper, I must admit that Starbuck was the first character that completely grabbed my interest that first time I watched the mini. And she still does. Every time—needless to say that I have a soft spot for strong, kickass female characters, uh?

I love that first glimpse of Kara, our heroine—or anti-heroine—, an extremely fit girl with very short hair running through the hallways of Galactica. Starbuck is portrayed from the very beginning as a hotshot and cocky fighter viper pilot, gifted with a natural talent for flying for which she is considered the best pilot of the fleet. She is also an avid gambler who enjoys drinking, smoking cigars, and sex. All of them typical “alpha male” traits; paradoxically though, she never was the typical tomboy cliché but an extremely complex, ever-evolving and impossibly human character. It would take us a while to get to know better our heroine and all the cracks hidden underneath that tough surface, but I love that right from the start she is portrayed as a warrior, a good soldier with a natural charisma and with a touch of wilderness and exuberance I had rarely seen before on TV. And these are two of my favorite moments:

a) The triad game

I love the triad scene. I enjoyed seeing how Starbuck owns the game and makes jokes with Helo and Sharon. The animosity floating between Tigh and Kara was also really interesting. And I love Kara’s face when she proclaims she has full colors. So bright and dazzling and joyful .

b) Beyond insane

"You are beyond insane!!", yells Apollo.

She is, indeed. But she is also fearless and daring—and so authentic. A fighter willing to give everything—even her own life—for the ones she cares. She is always going to have his back. She’d go to the hell and back for him. They are Starbuck and Apollo, after all. Right from the start.

The whole scene is priceless—and almost comical. Kara playing the role of the knight in shiny armor who saves the damsel in distress, our pretty boy Apollo. I love how this moment frames Starbuck’s reckless streak, how good pilot she is and how much she cares for Lee.

The Boy With a Thorn in His Side

Pissy Lee—a lovely combination of angst, emoness, daddy issues and undeniable hotness—is utterly adorable and thoroughly enjoyable since the first moment we met him, when he climbs down from his viper—all cockiness and arrogance—and asks Chief why he has to land manually. He is the young romantic lead in terms of conventional television standards, but not the archetypical action hero with the right measure of moral and cerebral thinkiness that is just an excuse for brooding sexily on the screen.



We’ll have to wait until “Bastille Day” to learn a little bit more about Lee and his political conscience, but throughout the mini—especially in all his interactions with Laura Roslin, which I love—we catch glimpses of those traits that make Apollo the non-standard hero, a man defined by his beliefs who is usually placed in the position of having to make hard choices and is constantly shown up on the action hero front by another character. And as far as those issues are concerned, I especially love two moments:

a) Lady is in charge

Roslin: "So we pick up as many people as we can, we try to find a safe haven to put down...Captain? I'd like you to look over the navigational charts for a likely place to hide from the Cylons. That's all"
Apollo: (to Doral) "Lady's in charge"

I love the fact that Lee is the first person in the military who recognizes and supports Roslin’s authority, even before she is officially declared the new President of the Colonies. Doral cannot accept Roslin taking charge of the situation because he believes she is not qualified to be giving orders. On the contrary, Lee immediately understands the value of her leadership. I love that he never challenges Roslin for power, grasping the tactical realities of the situation and supporting Roslin’s calm authority in the crisis. Lee is not interested in power struggles because he shares the same goal with her: protecting the surviving people of the Colonies, gathering the remaining survivors and convincing Adama that the war is over and that the Fleet needs to flee in order to survive. Without Lee and Roslin’s pragmatism, humanity would have been doomed.

b) The ships without FTL drives are left behing

When Colonial One and all the refugee ships are found by Cylon Raiders, Roslin is urged to abandon the ships that have no FTL drives. That implies abandoning thousands of people. That’s when we see Lee and Doral arguing different sides of the argument.

“But we'll be saving tens of thousands. I'm sorry to make it a numbers game, but we're talking about the survival of our race here. We don't have the luxury of taking risks and hoping for the best, because if we lose... we lose everything. And Madame President, this is the kind of decision that needs to be made right now”, Lee points out.

One thing that made BSG a great series is that it didn’t shy away from exploring extremely difficult situations, deliberately making us question what we might do. Lee is often placed in a position of having to argue in favor of painful-yet-necessary choices, proving to be a great asset in a crisis. And here we see again his pragmatic streak, as he suggests the President to abandon the ships without FTL drives for the greater good: the survival of the human race. Roslin ends up following his advice and we are given one of the most creepy, dark and haunting moments of the mini. Raiders appear and launch a battery of missiles against the remaining ships, as the ones with FTL drives jump out.

There is no magic solution, no happy ending. Roslin made her choice. Some people lived, other died. The guilt and responsibility that comes from these impossible decisions—as we'll see more than once throughout the series—is the price to pay in order to maintain a species' existence after the Armageddon.

Can't Get You Out Of My Head

First Kara/Lee scene ever. The brig. Starbuck is doing push-ups. "This looks familiar," Apollo enters the room and finds Kara. Oooooooh, Lee makes it sound sort of dirty! And the scene becomes dirtier when he leans his arms—OMG, those glorious and frankly stunning shoulders and arms—against the iron bars of the cell. Is it just me or all Lee’s extra smugness makes him look hotter? ;). Starbuck jumps up to greet him with a grin, breathing heavily. "Sorry I wasn't there to greet you with the rest of the squadron. Did they kiss your ass to your satisfaction?", she teases with a hint of ferocity. Heh. Very nice.

And here there was. Pilots’ epic banter. A quality I absolutely adore about their relationship—especially in S1 and early S2, when it was at its best.

Apollo: "So, what’s the charge this time?"
Starbuck: Striking a superior asshole.
Apollo: "I bet you’ve been waiting all day to say that one"
Starbuck: "Most of the afternoon, yeah"

So that's pretty cool, I thought the first time I watched this scene. They are friends. Or sort of. And they’ve got the “pretty boy and tomboy girl with more balls than him who—despite the apparent animosity—want to frak each other senseless” kind of interaction. Maybe they are ex of some sort? Because given the way he stares and stares at her invitingly hot, full lips and her breasts… I could swear he has a hard-on. And I’m sure she craves for him too. Mmmm...

Starbuck: "He lost his son, Lee"
Apollo: "And who is responsible for that?"
Starbuck: "Same old Lee. You' haven't changed either"
Apollo: "Zak was my brother"
Starbuck: "What was he to me? Nothing?"
Apollo: "That's not what I meant. And you know that"
Starbuck: "You know, you should go. I'm getting the urge to hit another superio asshole"

Surprise. So Starbuck was not Apollo’s former frakbuddy after all but his younger—and dead—brother‘s fiancée.

Oh, the angst.

LOVE IT.

Because that twist was deliciously angsty and added tons of guilt, pain, anguish and wrongness to Lee and Kara’s relationship—mainly because their dynamic seemed to scream “we have a messy history”, and not of the older-brother-of-the-fiancé variety, by the way. But that is the quality I love most about pilots, I guess; the extremely complicated yet paradoxically simple nature of their relationship. They are almost-siblings, friends, colleagues. But you can’t love your sister. You can’t love your dead fiancé’s brother. You can’t love your superior officer. And you can’t love your pilot. Yet they do. More than anything.

I must sat that the scene which led me slowly but inexorably to my shipper conversion was not the first brig scene though, but the one where Starbuck learns of Lee’s supposed death and secretly prays for his soul. Kara was standing in front of her locker, head bowed, looking broken and vulnerable and beautiful in equal measure, unfolding that picture of her and Zak, and revealing an awkward Lee staring back at her.

"Lord of Kobol hear my prayer,
take the souls of your sons and daughters lost this day,
especially that of Lee Adama
into your hands"

Oh, my gods. She loves him, I thought. And it is wrong, so wrong. But undeniable, too… As if folding that picture and keeping his face hidden, she could be able to deny the only one thought that lingered in her mind since she laid her eyes on him for the first time… and the nauseating crippling guilt that came with that realization.

It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine)

The worlds have ended but that doesn't seem to matter anymore. Not right now. Not for Lee as he glimpses a flock of untamed and wild blond hair under the viper. Not for Kara as Lee reaches for his hand and smiles. “Hey”, he says softly. He is here, he is alive and Kara finds herself not knowing what to say or do, so she simply takes his hand and let him pull her up. “I thought you were dead”, Kara manages to say. But he is not dead and she wants to laugh and scream and kiss him, even though the worlds have ended in fire and blood and fourteen billion people are dead back in the Colonies.

She smiles and he smiles and their eyes lock for a moment as time freezes, the air suddenly heavy and the silence deafening with all the words they are not saying. So they make stupid jokes instead. And there she is. It is the apocalypse and even though Kara is not sure of anything—not anymore—she looks into his blue eyes and it occurs to her that maybe they are going to make it after all.

Who dares to question that they are not in love? :)

So there is it. How was the experience? Have you enjoyed the mini? Myself, I loved it. I was a little bit afraid that I was losing my connection with the show and pilots since the bitterness of the finale, but truth is that… no frakking way. I can’t find words to describe how much I adore Kara and Lee, more than any other pairing. They are the reason why we are doing this rewatch, to begin with. And they don’t disappoint. Right from the beginning we are caught in the middle of a (love) story beyond any labels, challenging all sort of conventions and worn-out clichés: delicious, gorgeous to behold, dark and ominous, epic, heartbreaking, and absolutely enthralling.

Pilots in a nutshell.

Some questions to ponder
1) Taking into account we already know how this story ends, to what extent has your perception of the show (and pilots) changed?
2) What about the first brig scene? Did it give you a different vibe?
3) What's your own view on Kara/Lee previous backstory right now?
4) When you watched the mini for the first time, which one (K/L) was your favourite? Why? And now?

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Congrats, Cos!!!

I love your K/L review. The fic-like part in the end is beautiful, and the title of the song you've chosen fits just like a glove.

Overall, I think that... You nailed it!;)

Lots of kisses <333 and good luck with the comm,

Mr Feraud

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

Awww!!

**dies of the cuteness at Mr. Feraud being your first commenter**

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Talk about kicking this off with a bang, girl!! This is freaking fantastic. Geez Louise, I've got a big act to follow now, don't I? ; P

I'm off to get to work on my part, but I'll be back to comment throughout. (And let me just say Roslin = worst hair of the mini award. Papadama? Surprisingly, the best. Wish he'd kept the crew cut.)

Thus endeth the squueeage. (For now.)

[innibis.livejournal.com]

Lovely post, Cosette. I didn't watch. However. . .

I didn't have a favorite in the mini. I liked them both although I thought that, initially, Lee was a more in depth character (before Kara prayed). Kara was presented as the very stereotypical hero. She was not only better then everyone at everything, but knew she was better then everyone at everything. She had the indulgence of the CO, and therefore knew that she would face no real consequences for assaulting the XO. She was serving in a nothing command that was not built for defending the fleet and leaned heavily on personal loyalty and signs of devotion to the CO as opposed to mission readiness and loyalty to country. Really fun and ballsy and just joyfully tough. I was so drawn to her. But still pretty typical. She reminded me of Maverick in Top Gun.

Lee though - he was interesting. He started questioning the way business was done right off the bat with the antiquated landing practices. He wouldn't allow a chief petty officer to suck up to him. He was obviously a rising star of the fleet, but resentfuly so. He was bitter and dissmissive toward his father, and really wanted to talk to Kara but wasn't sure how. He accepted, after verifying that Roslin was competant, civilian authority over the military, saved the entire remaining fleet when Roslin was being stubborn, not with blazing guns or wresting control from the president, but by finding another way, using out of the box quick thinking to make the cylons think they're gone. He articulated to Roslin what no one else dared to - that they had to leave the other people behind. I was fascinated by him - now this I hadn't seen before.

But then Kara prayed. The faith and vulnerability behind the brash swagger, and she unfolded that picture and it was amazing. It hadn't just been Kara and Zak - It has been Kara and Zak and Lee. And of all the people she thought were dead - her squadmates and friends - the whole damn human race - she singled out one person and one person alone to specify - and that was Lee. So significant and so very sad to think that someone that important to her was suddenly gone. In that moment you could see that there were very few people who actually knew Kara Thrace and she believed she had just lost one of them.

The spark that made me think of Kara as being more than the stereotypical action hero was only in two more scenes - when she saw Lee again and when she saved him. It was such a cool thing to see the vulnerability and layers of her, but they only showed when she was with Lee - when he came back from the dead and when she wouldn't lose him again. There was more to Kara Thrace then Maverick. And you saw a softness in Lee when he was with her as well. For better or worse was the phrase that came to mind. These two are stuck with each other for better or worse.

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

haha! I had no idea he intended to comment! :)

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

***squeeeeeeeee with you***

I'm looking forward to your poetry!!! <3

And yes about Roslin. She looks older... And her hair is terrible. I don't like at all that darker shade of brown and the haircut... **cringes** And what about Lee's con in his head when he is talking with Papadama?? That was hard on the eye too!!! ;)

In short: MINI = EPIC BAD HAIR EPISODE! ;)

[kategirasole.livejournal.com]

Awwww! SO adorable. ;-)

[kategirasole.livejournal.com]

Okay, I will come back and comment on matters of substance later...but I just had to say that I *loved* the Leefaces that you picked in the "boy with the thorn in his side" part of this post. Hee!

[shefcat.livejournal.com]

Great start to the comm, Cosette, really.

And OMGs, I am so happy to find someone who started shipping during the photo scene! Most people say they started during the brig scene, but not me...for me it was the photo scene. That's not to say I didn't like the brig scene (more on that in a bit), but it was only when she pulls that photo from her locker and opens it up to see Lee, it's like she is finally admitting to herself what he meant to her. Because he did mean something to her, even though maybe she didn't know exactly what. But it takes his death for her to finally realize it. Sad and ironic and tragic. Oh pilots, you are complicated, aren't you?

But that's not to say I didn't like the brig scene. The banter, the familiarity, the chemistry. All are there in copious quantities, but as much as Lee's arms are almost too much to bear, it is the conversation they have over Zak that always does me in. My favorite line is when Kara says "What was he to me? Nothing?" I don't know, there is just a way that KS has of delivering her lines...with the intonation. She has incredible range and she delivers it here with a mixture of strength, vulnerability and pissed-off-ness. It reminds me very much of that line in the Pegasus arc where Papadama comes to her to ask her for a favor (to kill Cain) and she says "anything for you, you know that." She's tough and she's brave, but she's vulnerable, too.

And that is why I've been a Kara-girl from the start. She is what dragged me into this show. And I shipped Kara/Lee from the start because, in those scenes (and later ones of course), it is so obvious that Kara is shipping Kara/Lee. Despite all the BS later (QoD, actor commentary), Kara has always shipped Kara/Lee.

On Lee, I was fascinated with his ability to quickly cut through the BS on military and political issues. "Lady's in charge." How great was that? Here's the Secretary of Education making decisions about how to keep the human race alive and it takes Lee about 30 seconds (maybe less) to figure out she was up to the job and to throw his weight, and the weight of the military, behind her...thus legitimizing her government. And, of course, we learn why Doral was so keen to undermine her authority from the get go, but Lee's got his eyes on the ball and he doesn't waver even in the tough situations.

Finally, in reference to your points about how everyone seems so fresh faced and naive. I think you are right, but I am also struck by how fresh faced the Galactica is, as well. So shiny and new. Bright. White. Those pics of the CIC and the hangar bay are what really stand out. Even for a ship that had been around for over 50 years, the ship looks incredibly new. I'm not sure I would make an argument that it is all a metaphor for how innocent and easy things were before the cylon strike, because frankly, I think that would be stretching a bit. But the interior is a stark contrast to where it all eventually ends and it was something that definitely caught my eye on the rewatch.

[rayruz.livejournal.com]

:D :D :D :D

Pretty pictures.

So... um... I had the chance to watch the mini, a few days ago actually, with my friend who is a BSG newbie more or less... she's seen a bit of S1. And she's a bit of a MST3Ker which can be a lot of fun, but anyways it gets to the scene where Kara finds out Lee isn't dead and my friend started yelling "MAKE OUT!!" at the screen. It kind of made my day.

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

Dude, I think we were all shouting that the first time we watched it. : ) The eyefrakking in that scene is off the charts.

[rayruz.livejournal.com]

Um... yeah... kind of a lot. :D

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

Thanks girl! I love those characters so much… :)

Completely agree with you as Kara portrayed as a cliché… The almighty Starbuck, the pilot with super-human abilities –and hey, can you believe that I havent’t watched “Top Gun”??? I definitely should put a remedy to that :). But even if Starbuck was a cliché I was immediately drawn to her –I love the triad scene— because… well, it is a very appealing stereotype and I’m a sucker for kickass heroines, I can't help myself. However, I must say that I fell for Kara for real later, in “Act of Contrition”… The scene when she tells Adama, completely broken, that Zak failed basic flight gets me every time. I think that is when I started to understand the complexity of Kara as a character.

By the way, this is the third time I rewatch the mini… And it is funny, because if the first time I watched it I was drawn to Kara, in my second rewatch –last summer, I think--I fell for Lee… and really hard, btw :). I especially enjoyed all his interactions with Roslin, they gave him a depth I really appreciated. One of my Lee squee!moments was the “lady’s in charge” line… I adore that he never questioned Roslin’s leadership as soon as he realized that she was handling the situation pretty well. Frankly, I find Lee’s pragmatic streak fascinating. That, and the combination with his idealism and her sense of justice kills me.
And Another moment I love is when he saves the day making the Cylons believe that they really nuked the Fleet. Rolin’s line “thank you Captain Adama for saving our collective asses!” is priceless.

And completely agree about Kara and her interactions with Lee in the mini… Pilots only share three scenes, but you can infer right from the beginning that theirs is a relationship with a lot baggage, and that they care deeply for each other. And the chemistry and all the eyefrakking and the UST were a joy to watch ;). I cannot understand why some people only see friendship and camaraderie between this two in the mini… It is SO obvious that they are in love. ;)

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

Hee! I had so much fun picking up all the pics!!! Emo-angsty-pissy Lee is delicious!!! <3333

[eugis.livejournal.com]

my friend started yelling "MAKE OUT!!" at the screen

:D:D:D:D

A very common reaction. ;)

[eugis.livejournal.com]

*SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE*

What a great post, Cosette!! Beautiful way to start this rewatch. ;) This is fantastic. I love all the pics you chose, especially the Leefaces. :P

I think my favourite K/L moment is when Lee comes back from the dead. If I had watched the mini without knowing anything about BSG and K/L's relationship, that moment would have made it for me. I love how relieved they are to see each other, to know they are alive, and the eyefrakking is epic. As the UST. Their chemistry cannot be denied. You know they belong together from day 1.

And let me say that the music geek in me adores the fact you used song titles for each part. :D

[eugis.livejournal.com]

Mr. Feraud, you are adorable. :)

Que bueno que contamos con tu apoyo. :D

[rayruz.livejournal.com]

My only only only single problem with that scene... KARA'S HAIR X.X

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

Thanks very much! And thanks for commenting! :)

when she pulls that photo from her locker and opens it up to see Lee, it's like she is finally admitting to herself what he meant to her

I love the brig scene because… well, the chemistry between them is obscene ;). But yes, the moment when Starbuck –because she was being Starbuck until then—, on the verge of tears, prays for Lee is… Gaaah. That’s when I realized that Lee was very very important for her –in a way that it shouldn’t be, really. I believe it was meaningful the way she had the photo folded… As if she couldn’t face her feelings for him but, at the same time, she couldn’t get rid of them.

She's tough and she's brave, but she's vulnerable, too.
Kara is very, very tough and a total badass, and I adore that side of her… but I guess my favorite moments of Kara are when she shows her vulnerability… Those moments are rare --because she barely allows herself to show vulnerability-- but maybe because of that they are so precious... Like when she said to Lee “Are we OK” in “Captain’s Hand” or when she asked Lee “Are you sure that it’s me what you want” in UBEX, or when after shooting Lee she leaves the sickbay at the sight of him and Dualla, or their scene in “Maelstrom”, or when she calls for Lee in the second brig scene when he is leaving…

Kara has always shipped Kara/Lee

Word. Lee always was THE ONE for her. Right from the beginning.

On Lee, I was fascinated with his ability to quickly cut through the BS on military and political issues.

Yes. Lee is the perfect combination between hotness and brains. Something I adore about him is that he is intelligent without any doubt. Lee questions everything and is a man defined by his moral principles and his conscience. But at the same time he doesn’t crave for power because his only goal is to get the things done. And here in the mini we see how he steps aside and recognizes Roslin’s authority because, well, it is SO obvious that she is doing a good job… Lee is realistic and understand and accept that without hesitation.

how fresh faced the Galactica is, as well. So shiny and new. Bright. White

Yeah, yeah, agree. The CIC is shiny!! But what really hit me is how young everyone seems… You know, something I love about this show is its sense of journey… it is not just the journey to find Earth, but a personal journey for all the characters (and the viewers, I guess).

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

Yes yes yes. **nods to everything both of you are saying**

Lee is the perfect combination between hotness and brains.

Oh HELL yes.

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

Heee!! Yeah, pretty pretty!!!

I think everyone was thinking the same!!! So your friend is a K/L shipper?? Oh, and about the scene I love the fact that everyone makes out after they are reunited (Dee/Billy and Boomer/Chief) except Kara and Lee... all repression and restrain and UST (and eyefrakking, of course). LOVE IT :D

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

THE PERFECT MAN (even in his Emo!Mode lol)

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

Leefaces are so cute and absolutely enjoyable :D

Heh. It is funny because when I watched the mini for the first time I thought that the young leads were Six --she was on the cover of every DVD-- and Gaius and well... Let's say that that is not my ideal pairing lol!... So when I watched Kara and Lee together, I though "OMG, they are SO pretty --I'm shallow and the prettiness factor is really importaNt for me ;)-- and their relationship seems SO angsty and complicated". Needless to say, I was immediately hooked ;)

And yes to everything you say. Kara and Lee are THE OTP OF THIS SHOW and the EPIC LOVE STORY right from the start :D

And I was sure you were going to love the song part! I adore this sort of geek-ish details too! ;)

[innibis.livejournal.com]

Oh I was totally drawn to her. I like action heroes as much as the next girl. And she is just so charismatic and larger than life. When Kara smiles, everyone else wants to smile too.

Oh Lee - he's so not what he's supposed to be, and I love him for that. He's a true believer and a total cynic, all at the same time. Yeah - the lady's in charge line and the nuke trick were what I was thinking of. There is never just black and white for Lee - he lives in the grey.

Definitely. You don't know why or how or when, but you do know that the two of them fell in love in spite of themselves a long time ago.

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

LOL! Kara's hair is bad but I think Lee's hair in his scene with Adama is worse ;)