Daily Pilots Post

[dramaturgca.livejournal.com]

It seems like all my DPPs are thinky questions. Is that a problem?

Continuing the trend...

Where would you branch off from canon?
Do you go all the way to the end and lose it at the poof? Is it Blood on the Scales when Kara chooses to stay with shot Sam?
Is it earlier? Maelstrom? Taking a Break From All Your Worries? Unfinished Business? Before the year break? Before Razor? Before Peg at all? After Home II when it felt like all things were possible? Before Kara slept with Sam? Before she slept with Baltar? Or are you fine with the way everything turned out?
Is there a moment in your personal canon that is the lynchpin where, if they just changed direction there, the whole thing would've come out right? What do you think?

Comments

[ddt73.livejournal.com]

I do have a big beef with them killing Kara. It had the makings for a powerful episode, a majorly emotional episode. It was probably the most emotional episode of the series for me.

However lot of shows could kill main characters and have a powerful emotional episode, but you better have a hell of a plan to back it up. There is just no doubt they hadn't a clue what it meant and you can't do that to such an important character.

From the 2 different endings of Crossroads 2 (head Kara for Lee, vs everyone can see her), to whether or not there are hieroglyphics on her viper, to Kara being Zen-like on her return to her being basically insane. Everything shows how little they understood her death and return.

In Maelstrom they say Kara was really afraid to die, that she had to face her fear of death to become what she really is, and this was something to their credit at the time, was a theme they repeated with her being afraid to be at Lee's bedside, then Kat's in season 3, and showing it started with her being afraid to face her mom's death. Then all that is thrown away cause in Daybreak 2, near the end she says, she's not afraid to die, but of being forgotten.

When you watch each of those scenes seperately, Kara at her mom's death bed in Maelstrom, and her telling Lee she's afraid of being forgotten. They are great moments in themselves but yet they are at conflict with each other. Think about how she tells Lee she's not afraid any more, when you look back that doesn't jive with the full backstory.

We are supposed to just say Kara died and came back to lead humanity to an end and new beginning and when she did this, she left.

If you take it as a short sentence it makes sense, but the reality of it all, the details of it, just don't add up. She didn't need to die to get them to Earth 2.0. The coordinates are to a song that her father taught her, that Hera helped her remember. They found Cylon Earth cause they followed a tracker beacon on her viper that miraculously went from a gas giant to that planet, and she wasn't even aware of the tracker signal, the final five told her about that signal. Considering Ellen was downloaded and remember everything by this point, she could have told them where Cylon Earth was and what happened on it. Was it for the cylon alliance? The Demetrius mission eventually lead to the cylon alliance. But why should she have to die for that? Seems a high cost for a dubious alliance that probably caused more problems then it solved. See when you break it down there was no good reason for her to die.

If you say a character died to help fulfill her destiny then shouldn't it be clear why she had to die. Like to gain knowledge that she otherwise wouldn't have had? She had nothing like this, just makes seems so pointless, and makes the poof that much worse.

[damao2010.livejournal.com]

She didn't need to die to get them to Earth 2.0. The coordinates are to a song that her father taught her, that Hera helped her remember.

I couldn't agree more. There are millions of things they could have come up to make her remember that. They could even have gone mystical and give her visions or something. Anything would have been better than killing her. Especially because they didn't really know what to do with that later. I think the decision to bring her back the way they did made things even worse (even if some of my favorite K/L scenes happened after that). They were clearly making it up as they were going and there was no clear plan.

I really liked what you said about her being afraid to die. I hadn't noticed that pattern. But there is no point in all that given that she didn't really need to die in the first place.