Daily Pilots Post

[dramaturgca.livejournal.com]

Wow, you guys are brilliant and the conversation this week has been awesome. It's been great hosting this week of DPP and I'm looking forward to my next turn in August.

To close out this DPP week, it's a Free-For-All! What do you want to say to K/L shippers? To the pilots themselves? To the world at large?

I would like to say thank you to this amazing community who welcomed me in and I hope we keep going strong. After all, there's a million and one things we haven't written yet!

Comments

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

This is really a lovely analysis of their relationship. I love the description of the ship of misfits - I had never thought about it that way. It makes sense that Bill would try to manage Lee in the same way that he managed his crew. And I can definitely see how Lee would NOT respond well to that.

I agree with the observation that his marriage was something he was happier with when he was away. That said, I do think there was a tremendous sense of responsibility he seemed to have carried about the war. Fighting in a war and staying in the military changes a person's perspective of what is important. Carolanne married a military man - I can't imagine his being away was a surprise for her. I think Bill's decisions to leave are really up to fanon now, but it does seem reasonable to me that Bill would choose the military over his family and I'm not sure his wife would have expected anything different. Alcoholism does not come from a bad relationship - I don't blame Bill for her problems, although he certainly turned a blind eye to it. I do blame Bill for not making sure his children were okay. That is unforgivable.

It also occurs to me that I don't know how old Lee was when his father left? It would certainly make a difference.

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

Great points, all.

Fighting in a war and staying in the military changes a person's perspective of what is important. Carolanne married a military man - I can't imagine his being away was a surprise for her.

Yes, I think you're right ~ in one of the flashbacks in "Scattered" where Bill and Tigh are talking, Bill says that his wife's father has influential connections in the military and that's how he got reinstated into the fleet. So I think we can speculate that Carolanne was familiar with the military life at some level even before she married Bill (though at the time she married him he was serving on a commercial freighter, not in the armed services).

And I think that Bill's experience in the first Cylon War profoundly affected him, and that he believed passionately that vigilant defense and preparation was necessary to prevent another such disaster. His commitment to old safeguards -- like non-networked ships -- set him apart from many others in the military who had grown complacent. I think Lee might have been among those who considered his father's vigilance to be misguided, though. He seemed annoyed upon his arrival at Galactica to learn that his father mandated hands-on landings, and he was unimpressed with the old model Viper he was given to fly in the decommissioning ceremony. These anti-Cylon precautions were obviously not ones he was used to. I would speculate that Lee believed that his father was still fighting a war that was long over. I think that might have been one of his sources of resentment.

Of course, he found out soon enough that his father had been right.

[damao2010.livejournal.com]

He seemed annoyed upon his arrival at Galactica to learn that his father mandated hands-on landings, and he was unimpressed with the old model Viper he was given to fly in the decommissioning ceremony.

That is true. However, about the old viper, I think he was annoyed because it had been his father's viper and everybody was so intent on honoring him whereas he couldn't care less about it, given the state of his relationship with daddy at the time. Also, I got the impression he was the only one using that specific model for the cerimony. The rest of the squadron used Viper 7 models and that is why they were all killed on the first wave of attacks. The old models they started to use were the ones that were onboard to be exhibited on the museum.

I would speculate that Lee believed that his father was still fighting a war that was long over. I think that might have been one of his sources of resentment.

Yes, absolutely.

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

Oh, yes, you're right that Lee was the only one in an old Viper -- it wasn't a security measure, just an homage which he resented for personal reasons. Righto.

[damao2010.livejournal.com]

I don't blame Bill for her problems, although he certainly turned a blind eye to it. I do blame Bill for not making sure his children were okay. That is unforgivable.

YES. I couldn't agree more.