DPP: All This Has Happened Before And All This Will Happen Again

[rayruz.livejournal.com]

Now we sink into a summer afternoon
Central park in june
Marveling at the bounty our days contain
And I feel it like the shiver
Of a passing train
That other life, deep underground
You and I, side by side
We are the next time around
--"In Another Life" by Vienna Teng

One of the things that came up in the Joe's Bar post the other day was The Poof, and more specifically people who thought the Poof was not the end. Whether it be that Kara had the choice to leave and come back at will, that they would see each other in the afterlife, or would be reincarnated, the poof was not going to keep Pilots apart forever.

I'm going to open with a couple of fic recs:
leiascully 's New York AU. Which is multi-part and made of so much wonderful I can't even begin. The title sort of says it all. Kara and Lee, reincarnated in New York. (A few parts of this story are A/R)
ariastar 's This Is Not Our Fate. I love this fic, though possibly because I spent so much time talking it out with the author on trips to the pizza place. It's an ensemble cast (Kara, Lee, Sam, Dee, Zak, Helo, Boomer, Athena, Gaeta, Adama, Roslin, and Leoben) college reincarnation story--all about getting things right this time. There is a big shuffle of who everyone is to each other (i.e. certain people who were siblings are not and vice-versa, there's some change in who is whose parent, etc... Leoben is not a creeper... not very creepy at least...) Kara/Lee is definitely a part of it, most apparent at the end though.
wisteria_ 's Aegis (Part 1) and (Part 2) A crossover with L&O UK. Matt Devlin/Kara Thrace. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. Kara has been going around, through the ages, helping Lee out of scrapes in various lives... she's not supposed to really be a part of his life, just save it... but when she meets him as Matt Devlin, it becomes much harder to resist. LOVE IT.
Did I Fall Asleep? Part 1  (and Part 2) is my own story, so shamelessly plugging here. A crossover with Dollhouse, Paul Ballard meets a new handler, just transferred from the Dollhouse in London. His name is Lee Josephs and it is the second time this week Paul has been struck with the most intense feeling of déjà vu he’s ever had.

I'm a big proponent of the reincarnation idea when it comes to BSG, since there's an already established cycle of time. (Whether or not RDM admits it, I feel like it's completely backed up with Kat, Stinger, Duck, and Hadrian being on Caprica...er... the folks who played them. You know what I mean.) So I always believed that Kara and Lee would meet again in another life, and keep meeting over and over, and they'd probably mess it up a couple of times, but they'd get it right sometimes too.

What do you think Kara and Lee would be like in reincarnated lives--whether they be present, historical, or possibly before BSG? What would they do, would they be at all familiar with other reincarnated souls or are they alone? Fic recs? Thoughts? 

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Pilots, Edith Hamilton style...

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

Thinking about Greek myths earlier made me think about how awesome it would be to see Kara and Lee reincarnated into some moment just at the cusp of historical memory, where they could become the basis of the legends of heroes and demigods that have come down to us. I always envision them as great souls that meet in times of crisis. I was taking a look at Edith Hamilton's book "Mythology," and there were two stories in her chapter on Theseus that made me see Kara and Lee behind them (though a little gender-bending is necessary to make them work).

Theseus, in his better moments, reminds me of Lee - when he became king of Athens he transformed it into a republic. I can see Kara behind Theseus's reckless friend Pirithous, and also behind some of the stories of the greatest Greek hero, Hercules. Take a look at these two stories about Theseus and his friends. The only things I've changed from Edith Hamilton's accounts are the heroes' names:

1) Kara and Lee's first meeting (from the story of Pirithous and Theseus):

"Lee saved the life of his rash friend Kara, as he did, indeed, a number of times. Kara was...perpetually in trouble. Lee was devoted to her and always helped her out. The friendship between them came about through an especially rash act on Kara's part. It occurred to her that she would like to see for herself if Lee was as great a hero as he was said to be, and she forthwith went into Attica and stole some of Lee's cattle. When she heard that Lee was pursuing her, instead of hurrying away she turned around and went to meet him, with the intention, of course, of deciding then and there which was the better man. But as the two faced each other, Kara, impulsive as always, suddenly forgot everything in her admiration of the other. She held out her hand to him and cried, 'I will submit to any penalty you impose. You be the judge.' Lee, delighted at her warm-hearted action, answered, 'All I want is for you to be my friend and sister-in-arms.' And they took a solemn oath of friendship."

2) Lee reaches out to Kara after the death of her lover - Zak? (from the story of Theseus and Hercules after Hercules killed his family in a fit of madness decreed by a jealous god):

"Kara heard him out; then she said, 'And I myself am the murderer of my dearest...I will avenge upon myself these deaths.'

But before she could rush out and kill herself, even as she started to do so, her desperate purpose was changed and her life was spared...It was a miracle caused by human friendship. Her friend Lee stood before her and stretched out his hands to clasp her bloodstained hands. Thus according to the common Greek idea he would himself become defiled and have a share in Kara's guilt.

'Do not start back,' he told Kara. 'Do not keep me from sharing all with you. Evil I share with you is not evil to me. And hear me. Those great of soul can bear the blows of heaven and not flinch.'

Kara said, 'Do you know what I have done?'

'I know this,' Lee answered. 'Your sorrows reach from earth to heaven.'

'So I will die,' said Kara.

'No hero spoke those words,' Lee said.

'What can I do but die?' Kara cried. 'Live? A branded woman?'

'Even so, suffer and be strong,' Lee answered. 'You shall come to Athens with me, share my home and all things with me. And you will give to me and to the city a great return - the glory of having helped you.'

A long silence followed. At last Kara spoke, slow, heavy words. 'So let it be,' she said. 'I will be strong and wait for death.' "

Yup ~ I think pilots could be Greek in style :)

Re: Pilots, Edith Hamilton style...

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

If I wasn't already married, I would ask your brain to marry me. That second one. Just the fact that you could pull that out for today's discussion. Um, wow. :)

Re: Pilots, Edith Hamilton style...

[rachelindeed.livejournal.com]

Hee! I wish my brain could take the credit, but my husband majored in Classics in college, and he's the reason we have Edith Hamilton lying around the apartment :)

I love that second one, too ~ I first read it back in high school and melted. I thought to myself, "Why have I never heard of Theseus before? I'll take epic friendship over a Golden Fleece any day." I'm glad you liked it, too!

Re: Pilots, Edith Hamilton style...

[entaiaime.livejournal.com]

Dude-- That second one totally had me tearing up. Love.