Daily Pilots Post: Pilots Spam!
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no_takebacksHi friends! First of all, I want to thank you all for your participation and wonderful comments --yesterday's essays contributions were fantastic, all of them--, you are absolutely the best! :D So, after a whole week of discussion, thinky thoughts and porn, I’ve just realized that there’s barely been any squee this week! (my fault, I tend to get lost in fic and meta). Tomorrow I will be back torture you with more introspection –sorry, in two days it will be over, heh!--, but today I am going to emulate our dear![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
workerbee73 and devote this Friday's PPD to…
Bring your questions, general love, musings, squee, pics, gifs -- whatever you want! Let’s have fun because it’s FRIDAY!!!
And here is my first contribution to the party… I was doing some catch-up with all the DDP posts and comments earlier today, and just read this observationlapsedprof made days ago:
“My husband's theory - based on some commentary stuff and his intuitive understanding of RDM and crew - is that to RDM, Kara is the girl you want but can never have. So there's some lethal resentment projected onto her (slut!) - and on to those who do get to have her (shot in the head and incinerated by the sun; made irrelevant, dismissed, and abandoned). And - it just occurs to me - let's not forget who gets the porch-swing ending - the very man she sexually humiliated in the most cringeworthy way. It's just a theory - but I see it as another way to get at the madonna/whore stuff that innibis has mentioned and that I slapped me in the face during the finale.”
Dudes, this is pretty brilliant and makes perfect sense, right?
ETA. I do actually have a question for today… lol How have pilots changed your RL? What’s been their impact on your life? When did you realize you were obsessed with them? I am curious about stuff like that :).
(Myself, I think the first time it really, really hit me the depth of my emotional attachment to them was that period after the finale, when I spent a whole week crying and I couldn't tell anyone why I was so down –because honestly, who was supposed to understand the whole thing? Thank God I found my particular self-help group in LJ).
workerbee73 and devote this Friday's PPD to…PILOTS SPAM!!
Bring your questions, general love, musings, squee, pics, gifs -- whatever you want! Let’s have fun because it’s FRIDAY!!!
And here is my first contribution to the party… I was doing some catch-up with all the DDP posts and comments earlier today, and just read this observation
lapsedprof made days ago:“My husband's theory - based on some commentary stuff and his intuitive understanding of RDM and crew - is that to RDM, Kara is the girl you want but can never have. So there's some lethal resentment projected onto her (slut!) - and on to those who do get to have her (shot in the head and incinerated by the sun; made irrelevant, dismissed, and abandoned). And - it just occurs to me - let's not forget who gets the porch-swing ending - the very man she sexually humiliated in the most cringeworthy way. It's just a theory - but I see it as another way to get at the madonna/whore stuff that innibis has mentioned and that I slapped me in the face during the finale.”
Dudes, this is pretty brilliant and makes perfect sense, right?
ETA. I do actually have a question for today… lol How have pilots changed your RL? What’s been their impact on your life? When did you realize you were obsessed with them? I am curious about stuff like that :).
(Myself, I think the first time it really, really hit me the depth of my emotional attachment to them was that period after the finale, when I spent a whole week crying and I couldn't tell anyone why I was so down –because honestly, who was supposed to understand the whole thing? Thank God I found my particular self-help group in LJ).
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Date: 2010-04-30 10:08 am (UTC)Dadgummit, I hate that I missed the thinky-thought Zak discussion. Lots of good stuff going on there. And yep, I totally agree with lapedprof's comment... RDM's subtle understanding of human nature for the FAIL! Woo!
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Date: 2010-04-30 12:54 pm (UTC)As for RDM... you know, I'd love to know him in person lol
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Date: 2010-04-30 01:31 pm (UTC)Pilots have the best hugs.
And smooches.
And... yeah that.
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Date: 2010-04-30 05:57 pm (UTC)And the last gif... yeah.
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Date: 2010-04-30 01:59 pm (UTC)The UBEX ending!<33
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Date: 2010-04-30 04:08 pm (UTC)RDM = Fail.
I let myself get lost in Pilots during the hiatus between S4 and S4.5, as part of an avoidance tactic, so that some shit in the rest of my life could be ignored. Maybe not the best coping strategy ever, but it served me for the time. I don't think I realized it had become more than that until the finale, when I was so completely upset by the ending. And for almost exactly the reasons you said. I was so upset that this fictional pair had gotten exactly the ending I'd feared (I was calling Kara the "Jesus" of BSG as soon as I learned about Kara coming back from the dead, and hoping that I was wrong, or that it was at least going to be well done), that I just could not let it go! Which... They're fictional characters. The actors were still getting paid what they'd agreed to, and etc. Where is the logic in getting so upset about a story?!?
But then...
They're so pretty and fabulous together.
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Date: 2010-04-30 08:10 pm (UTC)(and hey, pilots are the best therapy for RL shit ever, I've been there and it works! :D).
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Date: 2010-04-30 05:27 pm (UTC)Gods. Leaving aside the fact that pilots introduced me to the concept of fandom, and all the wonderful people I've met through LJ, pilots are... gosh, they were like family. It's like they lived with me. :D For a long time the way I would lull myself to sleep would be to turn off the light and compose K/L stories in my head. Even now I have so many reminders of pilots all around me. (One of my kids even has a pilot-related middle name, I'll leave you to guess which pilot! *g*)
When did you realize you were obsessed with them?
I think I fell in love with Lee the moment that canopy lifted up in the mini and we saw his petulant mug. :) Pilots... I loved their dynamic from the get-go (i.e. first brig scene), but didn't know how much of a hold they had over me until I discovered fanfic. (I found a bunch of links on Skiffy - the first fic I read was very porny and very bad, ha - and then discovered the treasure trove on LJ.) And then I spent six weeks in a fugue state composing a fic in my head! Ah, true love.
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Date: 2010-04-30 08:30 pm (UTC)Really? That's the coolest thing ever! ( and well, it's widely known in my family that if I ever have a kid --a girl-- her name will be Kara --no kidding, my hub loves the name too *g*)
the first fic I read was very porny and very bad, ha - and then discovered the treasure trove on LJ.)
Confession: I was totally biased against fanfiction --the whole concept seemed surreal to me!-- until I fell for K/L (and that's funny, now I can't conceive BSG/pilots without fic!). A really good thing that the first stories I read were leda13 and daphnaea's :)
(btw, so glad to see you de-lurking! :D)
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Date: 2010-04-30 05:35 pm (UTC)For starters, I'm writing fiction again, which I owe entirely to our pilots. I started writing my first novel in about 9th grade. I restarted it years later when I'd learned a bit about writing, but realized the whole premise was crap (a teen novel with too many main characters, each of whom was a particular stereotype). I took a creative writing class in college and wrote short original stories.
I wrote Star Trek: Voyager fanfic in the 90s ('shipping Janeway & Chakotay mainly for the issues of rank/duty/self-denial- huh... familiar). In about 1997, I started my magnum opus, an angsty novel I managed to get about halfway written before I started dating my now-husband (who was a total buzzkill on my brood-y "meeting Mr. Wrong" book).
And then I had my daughter and any writing time I might have had vanished. Or so I thought. We watched BSG the beginning of this year, and all of a sudden, I found time to write! And it felt great! I write during her Saturday morning dance class. I write sitting next to her on the couch in the evening while she watches TV (thank God she can't read much yet!). I even returned to the novel, outlined the rest of it, and wrote a little bit more.
In Lee and Kara, I had found the hook I needed to get back into writing. I had been going day to day, doing the same things (work, dinner, preschool TV/movies, a couple of sitcoms, bed), and all of a sudden I felt more invested in life again. And even on the nonfiction, thinky-thoughts tip, the discussions here have been a bright spot in sometimes crappy work days.
Impact... Well, my husband rolls his eyes at it all. When I try to bring up interesting points we've hit on here to family and friends, I get teased (only one RL friend gets my pilot love and she isn't even a 'shipper herself), but I don't care. Maybe if they brought a decent topic to the table, I wouldn't need to weird them out with talk of dead fiances and the epic failure of the finale. It's nice to come here and not be the craziest fan in the room. One of 'em, sure. But not the craziest. :)
I realized I was obsessed right from the mini. Without a doubt. Kara crowed her triad victory, taunted Tigh into kicking over the table, and went for him not once but twice, and I turned to my husband and squeed and said, "Oh, I'm going to like her." But my K/L obsession started in the mini too. The first brig scene, the hints at a history together, the oddly lingering handshake over the "I thought you were dead" line... Oh, yeah. In from the beginning.
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Date: 2010-04-30 08:45 pm (UTC)My husband is wonderful and all but he just doesn't get my crush over K/L (also, he is not very fond of Kara and that breaks my heart! --and I joke about the whole thing but it bugs me a little ;P
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Date: 2010-04-30 05:41 pm (UTC)Pilots introduced me to this whole new world of fandom. I read fanfics for my other fandoms but never have I been this involved. They introduced to all of my lovely flisters. I mean I know they aren't real but they are family. I've laughed with them, cried with them, fought with them, have been pissed at them but at the end of it all I still love them.
When did you realize you were obsessed with them?
I realized how obsessed I was when I was heartbroken by the finale. I felt like a member of my family had died and I was sad and crying(even at work) for a week. I went to a town called Leesburg and I couldn't even manage smile. I was just going through the motions of life. It's like when someone you love dies, the wound heals but the scar will always be there; it's the same way with pilots.
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Date: 2010-04-30 08:53 pm (UTC)I felt like a member of my family had died and I was sad and crying(even at work) for a week
I felt the same (I even lost some weight!). It was like mourning someone you loved, really.
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Date: 2010-04-30 05:46 pm (UTC)You too??? OMG. I couldn't stop crying either. And, it wasn't just because I was sad. I was just so ... moved. By all of it. Everything. I have the same challenge with my RL peeps who don't necessarily understand how a "TV show" can have such an amazing impact on someone's life, but I can honestly say that BSG in general has changed my life. It's like reading an amazing novel. It's like having the best therapist ever!
What I love about the series (and of course our Pilots) is the fact that there is no black and white, cookie-cutter approach to anything. Everyone lives in a shade of gray, just like real life. This is the first time I've been hooked on a show where I can't relate to any one single character ALL the time. There were episodes where I thought my heart would bust out of my chest for Lee (I mean, the look on his face when Adama told him Kara got married? Dude.) and other times I wanted to shake him or wring his neck!! Same with Kara. Actually, same with all of the other characters too. I hated, hated Baltar the first time I saw the show. When I started my first re-watch, I actually started understanding him (and I think James Callis does some frakking amazing acting throughout).
I was so alone with all of this because I really couldn't talk to anyone about it as much as I wanted to, so I started reading the fic's just to be able to ... oh, I don't know ... have a connection? And then I found you guys and breathed a sigh of relief for finding people who are just as obsessed with this as I am. So yay us ** waves **
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Date: 2010-04-30 05:58 pm (UTC)First - great week of DPPs! You've been provoking all manner of insightful speculation and analysis. And I’ve loved your recs - I've been on a binge - consuming my way through them like a glutton. So - thanks - for launching a week of stimulating pleasure.
Re: my earlier comment and theorizing about K/L and BSG’s gender fail - I must say that as disappointed as I was by the ending, I do feel some compassion for RDM. We’ve all got our messy, petty shit – and when you make art and share it with the world that messy shit ends up on display. There was lots of great, inspiring, mind-blowing stuff to his *baby* BSG – but there was also plenty of embarrassingly human fail. I think he had a vision and (with Eick) put together an amazingly talented group of people and created an environment where they could do amazing work. The brilliance was in the collaboration and what it produced.
As to your question of the day – well, they seem to have eaten my brain – helped along, mind you, by this crew of bright, passionate shippers who keep feeding my addiction. Some of the appeal is that they provide an escape from RL – a vividness, beauty, and dynamic energy that, sadly, my RL lacks on most days. Some of the appeal is the many-layered nature of their relationship that prompts seemingly endless speculation and analysis. They’ve obviously tapped into something within me that I’ve yet to get a handle on – so I keep coming back for more (paging Dr. Freud).
But I can’t separate my pilot love from those who foster it. Yes, pilots are the hook and if I didn’t find them captivating in some way I wouldn’t have been drawn into this online fandom world. But at this point, it’s the way this community keeps them alive, keeps breathing new life into them and complicating and enriching them that keeps me coming back for more. Delightful fiction. Thought-provoking character analysis. The energy of shared enthusiasm – with people from all over the world. Awesome.
Again with the collaboration.
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Date: 2010-04-30 10:33 pm (UTC)I do feel some compassion for RDM. We’ve all got our messy, petty shit – and when you make art and share it with the world that messy shit ends up on display
If I rationalize the whole thing --which is hard being BSG/pilots, because I am/was way too invested--, I can feel some of that compassion you are talking about. Deep down I don't think RDM intended to mess with our heads, and I still consider BSG brilliant in many ways... But I resent him because they betrayed us as viewers --maybe it was not a conscious thing but as a creator he had certain responsibilities he disregarded...
it’s the way this community keeps them alive, keeps breathing new life into them and complicating and enriching them that keeps me coming back for more. Delightful fiction. Thought-provoking character analysis. The energy of shared enthusiasm – with people from all over the world. Awesome
So say we all! So glad to have you around! :)
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Date: 2010-04-30 06:13 pm (UTC)PILOT SPAM!!!
Adding a few gifs to the party....
As for how pilots changed my life....they introduced me to fandom. I'd read fic for other shows, but this is the first that I ever felt strongly enough about to want to talk to other people about it.
Kara caught me first. I fell hard for her. She's my girl. I was intrigued by Lee, but I didn't fall fom them as a pair until Act of Contrition. By Hand of God I could not be persuaded that there were two more important people in the whole show. Whenever I introduce someone to the show, they end up walking away as Kara/Lee shippers which makes me so happy :D
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Date: 2010-04-30 09:10 pm (UTC)What’s been their impact on your life?
Even now, a year after the finale, I see the word "pilot" and instantly think of K/L. I hear songs on the radio and still assign them to certain K/L scenes or moods. I think about possible professions for pilots, post-Galactica. After Daybreak aired, I went into a severe funk: it was like going through a bad breakup, except that I still loved pilots, and was furious at RDM. I still find it hard to read pilot!fic that isn't AU, and I haven't watched an entire ep since the show ended. (I turned on Scar or TCH one night, can't remember which, and had to turn it off because it just made me sad.)
On the bright side, I found out that I still love to write. I learned about things like Google Docs that make my life easier. I found wonderful friends, and through my flist I've found out about amazing books and movies and even learned some stuff about privilege, and diversity, and knitting. *g* Oh pilots.
On to the pretty!!
The jawlines and cheekbones in this slay me.
Gods, they were never more perfect than in this moment. Perhaps not typical of our OTP, but this moment was so full of potential!
A brief reminder of glory before it all went south...
Though I love the second brig scene, and consider it their final moment of romantic connection (I never like Islanded, for some reason), there's something about the events of Scar that keep me transfixed. They were never so beautiful and frakked-up as when she slaps him, and then kisses him. (I need a JPG of that moment, but these are close enough in time...)
And this is the one where little Lee is as excited as big Lee to see Kara! ;0P
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Date: 2010-04-30 11:06 pm (UTC)And I agree that one of the best things pilots brought to my life has been fandom... I wish I'd discovered it sooner, when the show was still airing and there was all that squee floating in the air.
Love yours pics and that Raptor gif! --and I agree, there was something mesmerizing about pilots in "Scar", they kill me (aw, and love that pic with little Lee --not that little, no--, he gets so excited... and understandably so *g*)
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Date: 2010-05-01 08:51 am (UTC)When asked at a con which callsigns he'd give the other actors, he did name Katee "meme", but I doubt he was serious about that.
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Date: 2010-05-01 03:40 am (UTC)Okay, I decided to go through my old (old old) pictures folder, *sniffsniff*! Such glorious pilots!
In no particular order...
Smoldering:
Playful (this one's a montage, oh well):
Buddycops (thanks to
Lee knows a nice one when he sees one:
...aaaand, a few minutes later, they're drowning in guilt:
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Date: 2010-05-01 03:50 am (UTC)Serious pilots (I love when they're immersed in something they do very, very well, and are focused outward but perfectly attuned to the other):
Like this:
Of course, I am perfectly happy for them to focus completely on each other:
(omgs Kara's arm)
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Date: 2010-05-01 04:03 am (UTC)Snap crackle pop:
Love the chiaroscuro in this one:
Who remembers the kerfluffle when this photo came out? :)
Did I post this one already? Oh Scar.
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