DPP: Did Anyone Else Remind You of Them?
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no_takebacksHello pilotshippers, and welcome to this week's DPP!
To start with, here's something simple: we all know pilots are ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE among fictional couples - there has never been anyone quite like them, and probably never will be again.
But even if no one can replicate their magic, I want to ask the question: have you ever been reminded of them by other fictional couples, even in a small way? Have certain elements/moments in the relationship of pilots ever reminded you of anyone else you've read/watched?
Or am I just crazy for even thinking of them as comparable to other couples at all?
To start with, here's something simple: we all know pilots are ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE among fictional couples - there has never been anyone quite like them, and probably never will be again.
But even if no one can replicate their magic, I want to ask the question: have you ever been reminded of them by other fictional couples, even in a small way? Have certain elements/moments in the relationship of pilots ever reminded you of anyone else you've read/watched?
Or am I just crazy for even thinking of them as comparable to other couples at all?
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Date: 2012-07-23 05:40 pm (UTC)this moment between pilots (and the argument that led to it)
reminded me a LOT of this moment in the fourth Harry Potter book/movie (Ron and Hermione's post-Yule Ball argument)
which ended like this
oh gods I just compared pilots to a pair of teenage wizards. HELP.
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Date: 2012-07-23 05:50 pm (UTC)I tend to think of warrior couple comparisons, like Aeryn/John, and my current obsession, but Mary/Matthew from Downton Abbey also totally fit the bill.
But even so, with the aforementioned, the K/L dynamic and baggage is so specific to the two of them that while I find other couples similar, it usually doesn't merit strong comparision. Does that make any sense? So with the others, I love them on their own terms, but not in a replace-my-pilots kind of way (b/c that's just not possible, yo.)
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Date: 2012-07-23 05:56 pm (UTC)But yes, I don't think any other couple will ever completely remind me of them (even among the ones that do) because of the specificity you mentioned. It's more like looking for snatches of similarity than a big-picture resemblance, really.
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Date: 2012-07-23 06:04 pm (UTC)Wow. Yes, in some ways, they are probably the most similar of any couple I've seen.
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Date: 2012-07-23 06:34 pm (UTC)There's still enough difference that I know it doesn't quite work, but that's more because of setting specifics than anything else. I mean, I can't imagine Kara being as coldly head-over-heart as Mary is sometimes (as she has to be because of her inheritance situation), or Lee being as permanently good-natured and non-snippy as Matthew (but HEY, Matthew is a lawyer! And Lee wanted to be one too!)
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Date: 2012-07-24 07:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-24 12:04 pm (UTC)There will never be a true recovery ship from pilots for me - you've heard my reasons why - but I think I can find happiness with some other ships, I fancy the hell out of Sif/Loki from Thor right now even though it is pure fanon with some basis in actor chemistry (and Tom Hiddleston, I just want to ship his characters with everything, lol)
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Date: 2012-07-23 08:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-23 07:08 pm (UTC)INT. BATHROOM. DAY.
Almásy is in the bath. Katharine, wearing his dressing gown,
pours in a jug of steaming water. Almásy leans over the rim
of the bath. He's sewing, carefully repairing the torn
dress.
KATHARINE
I'm impressed you can sew.
ALMÁSY
Good.
KATHARINE
You sew very badly.
ALMÁSY
You don't sew at all!
KATHARINE
A woman should never learn to sew,
and if she can she should never
admit to it. Close your eyes.
ALMÁSY
(laughs)
That makes it harder still.
She pushes the sewing from his hands, then pours water over
his head, then begins to shampoo his hair.
Almásy is in heaven. The biggest smile we have seen from
him. She continues to massage his scalp.
ALMÁSY (CONT'D)
When were you most happy?
KATHARINE
Now.
ALMÁSY
When were you least happy?
KATHARINE
(a beat)
Now.
ALMÁSY
Okay. And what do you love? Say
everything.
KATHARINE
What do I love? I love rice
pudding, and water, the fish in it,
hedgehogs! The gardens at our house
in Freshwater - all my secret
paths.
She rinses his scalp, then slips off the robe and CLIMBS IN
BESIDE HIM, covering his neck and shoulders in kisses.
ALMÁSY
What else?
KATHARINE
Marmite - addicted! Baths - not
with other people! Islands. Your
handwriting. I could go on all
day.
(a beat)
My husband. Almásy nods.
ALMÁSY
What do you hate most?
KATHARINE
A lie. What do you hate most?
ALMÁSY
Ownership. Being owned. When you
leave, you should forget me.
She freezes, pulls herself away, out of the bath, looks at
him, then SLAPS HIM VERY HARD across the face.
She picks up her dress, the thread and needle dangling from
it, and walks, dripping, out of the room.
Mmmmm... If that's not 'pilots', I don't know what is. K :)
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Date: 2012-07-23 08:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-23 08:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-23 07:30 pm (UTC)I've also joked about Evangelion's Shinji/Asuka being similar since they're pilots with daddy/mommy issues. ;)
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Date: 2012-07-23 08:09 pm (UTC)And now your comment makes me feel slightly sad that I've all but given up reading manga :/
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Date: 2012-07-23 07:34 pm (UTC)I also see them a little in Tara Chace and Tom Wallace in Greg Rucka's Queen & Country, though a lot of that is how strongly I see parallels between Tara and Kara. (Seriously, I would be stunned if someone in the BSG writers room wasn't reading Q&C)
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Date: 2012-07-23 08:12 pm (UTC)I'm tempted to check out Queen & Country, now - I always like a good spy story.
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Date: 2012-07-24 12:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-24 03:33 am (UTC)Oh just checked and I suggested Bridgett but first said she should play one of his heroines and he said he'd be down with that. He wasn't specific. :)
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Date: 2012-07-23 10:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-23 10:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-23 10:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-23 10:12 pm (UTC)But you do have it right - it's not their individual characters that are like pilots as much as the dynamic itself - I'm amazed that it could be so strongly reminiscent of them that way, honestly. (and they need resolution too!)
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Date: 2012-07-24 12:25 am (UTC)Sigh.