Daily Pilots Post -- Like FedEx, Baby! A Shipper's Q&A

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

So how about some questions about your ship love, today? Here's a little shipping Q&A for y'all.

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
 
6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?


(And here's some Pretty Pics for Inspiration!)

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[ninety6tears.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
It's really hard for me to answer this, cause I was kind of in denial of shipping it for a long time. I really, really loved their friendship and kinda didn't realize until Kara's Leegasm that I totally wanted it to *happen*.
2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
The "Home" kiss. Followed by rewinding it thirty times.
3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
Rewatching the earlier episodes after experiencing them as more of a canon ship later on actually gave me more of a well-rounded OMG I SHIP THE HELL OUT OF THIS feeling than anything I got from a single episode.
4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
Hmm. With the exception of crossover territory (I've written Leonard McCoy/Starbuck), I'd say no. I find Kara/Sam interesting and Leoben/Kara a bit kinky and Kara/Helo hot and adorable, but I wouldn't go so far as to quite say I ship them. And I sort of ship Lee/Sylvia, but for the most part I don't really want him with anyone else.
5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
Favorites are every single frakking thing they do in "Home" (kissing/snarking/kicking cylon ass, hell yes). I also love them fingerpainting for Flattop's landing. Least favorite - Hope you guys don't kick me in the face, but I'm not really a fan of the fluff in the "Unfinished Business" love scene :/
6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
The inconsistency.
7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
They should have gotten the kind of surprisingly simple, quietly touching but not sentimental type of moments that were all given to Adama/Roslin toward the end. I don't know what I would have liked specifically, but if Kara had survived I would have loved for them to just end on something sort of romantic but also resembling the way they've always been, kind of open-ended but with a feeling you just know they'll be okay because they're in the fresh air and new and not bogged down by themselves anymore.

[thegreenkitty.livejournal.com]

1. Yeah, I was in denial for awhile too. ;)

4. Agreed, I deffo saw kinky potential in Kara/Leoben. It makes for a gentler take on the New Caprica arc.

7. Yes, this!!

[dramaturgca.livejournal.com]

1) I think I was already falling when I watched my first ep, Water. By Act of Contrition I was completely sold. The fingerpainting...

2) I think my first out loud squee was the Raider/Viper wing wiggle at the end of You Can't Go Home Again.

3) Colonial Day was a big one, but I think that when I saw the mini between s1 and s2, that scene when Lee comes back from the dead...

4) NO. Well, I sort of ship Marcia Case (Showboat) with them as a threesome. And a wee tiny bit of Kara/Marcia on their own. But if I had to choose, Marcia would go right out the window.

5) Favourite scene has to be Lee comes back from the dead in the mini. I can watch it over and over and just be constantly amazed by the amount of subtext in that scene. I also love the hose scene in Colonial Day, most of Home II, and the sequence on the firing range in Flight of the Phoenix. (I love Scar and Unfinished Business for purely physical reasons)
Least favourite... I hate when she shows up with Sam in Unfinished Business. I hate when he figures out that she slept with Baltar. I hate that he doesn't go looking for her after New Caprica.

6) Dropping Sam and Dee and letting them either go for each other or not, but not muddying it up with other people.

7) I would've liked to see them together at the end. Romantically or otherwise. Lee got shafted in so many ways in the finale, poor guy. And I didn't like that Kara vanished after her "special destiny" was completed. It validated everything her mother did to her. As for final words...
Lee: Well, it's not exactly a bright shiny future...
Kara: Told you so.
*They walk off to explore together*

[thegreenkitty.livejournal.com]

I'm so with you on 5-7. I hate Kara showing up with Sam in UB but what I hate more is that we didn't get the ending where she could admit her mistake and start to acknowledge (+/-resolve) her huge trust issues enough to let Lee in for more than just the fleeting moments that we saw in between keeping her guard up.

[thegreenkitty.livejournal.com]

Okay, thanks to insomnia, here I go...

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?

Well, actually I first fell for *Kara* and then fell for Kara/Lee because he was obviously the best choice for her and their individual awesomeness is multiplied by infinity to get their combined awesomeness.

Longer answer/explanation...
I used to be anti-television. I didn't own one as nothing good came on it. I got my news online and from NPR. Well, then I had a massively horrendous, major depressive episode inducing, break-up back in 2008. The depression left me spending a lot of time on the couch at my best friends' house. (They are married and we've all known each other since high school so I was close enough and lucky enough to have these super good friends that let me be their "couch lady" when home was too depressing.)

Anyhow, these two kept trying to convince me to watch bsg with them. They were catching up on S4 in preparation for S4.5 at the time. I remember resisting...something along the lines of "I don't watch tv, I don't like scifi...which isn't quite true...it's more I didn't like my mother forcing me to watch Star Trek when I was young. I remember turning my back to the tv (still on my/their couch) and being irritated by the use of the word "frak". Well, then along comes Kara Thrace and the Demetrius arc and I had a moment of acceptance and revelation. Wow, this chick is a lot like I am...crazy, for sure (some would say beyond insane!), but also brilliantly good at what she does, intelligent, funny, opinionated, and artistic. She allowed me to accept my strengths because I identified with her weaknesses.

At that point I started frantically watching all the epis from the beginning. (Dude, I literally watched the entire show from the Mini through S4 in two months in order to be ready for S4.5. Ah, my naivete, but I still had hope at that point.) I had already seen Kara with Sam and Leoben during the Demetrius episodes but they had nothing on Kara/Lee from the moment I saw the chemistry they had together. Meeting Kara/Lee as an entity is kind-of a blur of awesomeness as I was watching so many epis in quick succession. I saw them united in concern over Adama waiting in space for Roslin (Sine Qua Non) at the same time I saw baby pilots fighting for life at the end of the world in the Mini. I fell for the ship because Kara/Lee are equals. Lee knew when to punch back and when to offer hugs. Fight or frak might be a K/L motto, but damn I love them for their emotional investment in the relationship. As someone who identifies strongly with Kara, I would choose Lee, so I chose Kara/Lee.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?

The hangar scene in the mini when Kara finds out “it’s good to be wrong” after the “I thought you were dead/I thought you were in hack” dialogue was good. The viper sex when Kara saves Lee at the end of the mini and the “aren’t we coming in a little hot” dialogue was awesome.

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?

March 20, 2009: My best friends (the two I had been staying with) and I got together to watch Daybreak. I was filled with rage (and disbelief, grief, etc.) by the “poof” and the end in general; they were relatively content with the end. I realized then that there was no turning back; I was invested to the point of addiction. I’m fine with that though. All my friends got was a crappy ending. I got LJ and the flist. I still hate the poof but I am reaching some level of acceptance due to the awesomeness of the K/L shipper community. My addiction has provided access to a community of goodness filled with camaraderie, fic, icons, vids, metas, and general chatter.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

I had the same intense watching experience. I watched the whole series in two months. I'd just moved to a new city and was starting a business and had a lot of free time. It was incredibly difficult to go through such an emotional roller coaster: r/l and BSG.

I wouldn't recommend the show in such intense doses: would you agree? There's so much grief and loss -- it's hard to take.

[thegreenkitty.livejournal.com]

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?

Uh, no, not unless you mean do I ship them with OTHER people. ;) Dee/Billy were fine, for example. CKR and Trucco are great; their characters just don’t belong with Kara.

Kara and Lee bring out the best in one another and they know just how and when to support each other. IMO…and not trying to be inflammatory…Dee/Sam didn’t challenge our pilots. They allowed themselves to get walked over, which K and L could never do to each other. Leoben was okay when I first met him on the Demetrius but then he turned out to be a crazy stalker instead of just the philosopher Cylon so he’s out too.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.

Too many faves to list, although my absolute fave is the aftermath hugging after the dance in UBEx. Gun!porn, pilot playtime (fingerpainting, water fights), the romantic moments we did get, leaning against each other chatting, supportive moments like Lee’s run to Kara when she returned after her death, and the way they just intuitively knew each other well enough to always have the other’s back were all fantastic.

Least favorite is to be expected; it’s the motherfrakking poof!! Grrrr.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?

I wouldn’t change them; I’d just add more good times. No pigeons, no poofs, just life together on Earth fighting and frakking and having little pilot babies…or grown-up pilot adventures.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?

No pigeons, no poofs, just life together on Earth fighting and frakking and having little pilot babies…or grown-up pilot adventures…the same way Helo/Athena and Caprica/Baltar got their endings (except better obviously because it’s Lee and Kara)!! I like the Kara: “I told you, no shiny happy endings”//Lee, grinning: “No sh*t! I’m stuck with you??” theme as they wander, holding hands, into the distance…

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

I wouldn’t change them; I’d just add more good times.

Love this. :)

[rayruz.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
I loved Kara right away. Like, boom, day one. But didn't have much in the way of shipping. But I think the moment was the blue dress reveal in Colonial Day and I realized I was making the same face Lee was and I knew I shipped it. (I have to say, my first watch was kind of spotty because I was mainlining and doing HW at the same time.)

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
See above re: blue dress

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
I think my total addiction has to do with the fandom surrounding it, because I've never been in such a ship-centric fandom and never really had an attitude towards a pairing quite like K/L

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
Eh, not particularly, until you get into crossover territory.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
Favorite: So many good ones... I don't even know
LF: That scene towards the end of TABFAYW

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
The marriages. Only because I think seeing how Kara and Lee figure out how to stay together would actually be interesting, though apparently RDM didn't think so.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?

I can't actually conceive of an ending for them in the BSG universe as we had it... hence why I have my own version of events and that's my take on it. But in terms of the show itself? I can't honestly think of something I could envision on screen that actually left the two of them together.

[thegreenkitty.livejournal.com]

Yes, my love for Kara was instant too. :)

And I'm glad I'm not the only one that has my own version of events. (I also not-so-humbly believe ours is better than RDM's.)

[jeeshee.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?

Unfortunately the DVD set of s1 I had didn't contain the miniseries so I was a little confused when I started watching, but I pushed on and soon got the hang of what was going on. I loved Kara from the off, but without the mini's eye-frakking to set a context for the K/L relationship I just thought Lee loved her as his brother's fiancee - even during AoC/YCGHA.

It wasn't until Colonial Day, when Lee does the 'wow' face, that I realised I had been wrong about them. Then came KLG and the 'Lee' and I was sold.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment? Definitely the kiss in Home 1. It's still one of my all time favourite pilots moments.

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
Probably once I'd finished seasons 1-3 and I had time to delve into the fan side of things during the wait for s4. During my first watch I'd had a passing interest in some other ships, such as A/R, but as I got into the fandom I realised I just wasn't interested any more. Only pilots for me!

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
On my first watch I was quite into the chemistry between Kara and Gaius. I wouldn't say I ship it but I think there was an interesting relationship there that they could have used a bit more.

Kara/Leoben is something that fascinates me. Again, I wouldn't say I ship it, but I do find it really interesting. I hate the way it was resolved - not quite as much as Kara's overall ending, but annoying nonetheless.

Kara/Sam is okay, I'm not violently opposed to it and I grew to like Sam during 4.0. I just don't think it holds a candle to K/L.

Lee I don't care about enough to have ships for. His relationship with Dee was so badly written and he came off as a bit of a jerk to be honest. Apart from that I really can't see anyone else he would have been good with.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
Reiterating ninety6tears' *all of Home*. Unfinished Business in its entirety. Flight of the Phoenix and giggling at each other. Least favourite...hmm...Lee being purposefully harsh to Kara's face in Kobol's Last Gleaming and wherever it is that he criticises her on the Pegasus. Their ending, as well.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
I think the writers lost sight of how epic their *friendship* was, which is why it pissed me off in episodes like 'Someone to Watch Over Me' when Kara was alone and miserable. Idk, I think they were so keen to keep us on tenterhooks with the romance that they forgot the other parts of their relationship too.

I also wish Lee's general story had been stronger. The writing of his relationship with Dee, his depression, his move to politics etc. was all pretty poor imo, and I suspect that's why, when RDM decided that the finale was 'all about character', the most defining thing of Lee's life became 'being stuck on the table'...which to me was super frustrating because it negated the growth that K and L had both been through. If Lee had been given a stronger arc of self development (not resolved by throwing his duty into the sun) I really think it would have been quite obvious that he should be with Kara.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?

Their ending is another major thing I would change. I have huuuuge problems with Kara's personal ending - which are enough for their own post - but their combined ending, as I said above, was just so blah and didn't carry through the idea of their growth and development.

I love ninety6tears' suggestion of something quite open ended. I would have liked them to at least acknowledge the depth and strength of their bond even if it didn't end up being overtly romantic (although ultimately I would have liked a kiss). Without the *poof* we might have been able to project our own ending on them, whether that be the beginning of happiness for them or for them to eventually go their separate ways.

[jeeshee.livejournal.com]

Wow, long comment is long. Sorry!

[latteaddict.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?

The mini-series aired here in Australia and I liked it but easily forgot about it. I remember feeling disappointed in who was cast as Apollo - too emo-bitchy-whiny and didn't seem masculine enough to be a counterpart to Starbuck. Plus pretty boys are never my thing. Once I saw 33 several months later, I became hooked by the tension between Lee and Kara and saw Lee in a new light (I think it was the sexy delivery of him wanting to smack Kara in the mouth that did it.) Lucky for me, season one had already aired in the US and I got to watch it without preconceptions or outside influences. It was glorious! And I'll admit right now that I watched solely for Kara and Kara/Lee. None of the other characters grabbed me, in fact, I would often get bored if neither K/L were in it.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?

Easy, Kara's leegasm. That entire opening sequence was flawless, gorgeous and had me on the edge of my seat. It was poetry. I also think the music lifted it to an entirely new level of brilliance. If only every subsequent BSG episodes could've been as perfect as this one.

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?

When pilots punched each other. It sounds sick, I know, but I hadn't realised I was such an angst whore until that moment. Lee was so hurt and utterly rife with jealousy, and Kara was so humiliated. Watching poor Kara absorb his nastiness and disgust, knowing how desperately she wanted him, had wanted to be with him, had me desperate to see how their story continued. Season two could not come fast enough! And to have to wait until episode 6 to get any satisfaction was torture.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?

Yeah, Kara/Sam. Sam fulfilled all my 'shipper fantasies for Kara's happiness, safety and well-being. He was loyal, faithful, protected her at all costs, loved her hopelessly and genuinely put her happiness before his. He was never spiteful or set out to hurt or punish her. Plus he had the incredible good taste to know Kara's worth and never made her feel like shit about herself. He was patient with her and I think in the end Kara knew she was completely safe with him. Sam is the anti-Lee. But, Lee was the one Kara was completely in love with and so Kara/Lee always remained my OTP.
I can't ship Lee with anyone else because I've never seen him muster up a genuine feeling with any other woman.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.

It's so hard to pick! Favourite: The end of the aired version of Unfinished Business. I bawled my eyes out through the whole boxing match and cheesy moments montage and the way they clung exhaustedly to one another and Kara's bloody smile of relief and Lee dribbling on her shoulder. Knowing how the show ends now, I would pick that exact moment for the show to end. Earth be damned! *g*
Least favourite: I think it's a toss-up between Lee telling Kara he'll open up an airlock so she can go kill herself so soon after her four months of imprisonment on New Cap and Lee screaming in Kara's face for dare asking him to leave Dee if she leaves Sam.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?

Their ending.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?

If Kara still had to poof away, then I would at least want their final moments to reflect and honour the amazing love and friendship they shared instead of the insulting nothingness we got. If the ending could be purely self indulgent then I would go the whole hog and have them love and laugh and fight and play and have fatpilot!babies and a bright shiny future. They sacrificed everything and they deserved to enjoy everything they were fighting for.

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

When pilots punched each other. It sounds sick, I know, but I hadn't realised I was such an angst whore until that moment.

Wordy McWord, my friend. Angst whores unite!!!

Seriously, I've heard that scene called "awful" and "abusive" and just about everything under the sun, but I just don't agree. For me it was like "Wow, throw out the rulebook, b/c this ship is gonna be like nothing we've ever seen before." And it was. Sniff.

[daybreak777.livejournal.com]

Let's see. I'll try to be brief. My pilots questions answered in five ten minutes. I will set the virtual egg timer!

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
I missed the mini in 2003. :-( So I met the ship in "33" in 2004. (Six years of pilots, whoa!) The stims scene. When did I fall for them? I fell for them in Act of Contrition. There's a moment when Kara steps toward Lee and I didn't know whether she was going to hit him or kiss him. I don't think he knew, either. But emotion just vibrated between them and I had to know how it would all turn out for them.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
The Home Pt. 1 kiss. I may have even been spoiled for it but I didn't care! It happened and wasn't a dream and Lee was so impulsive and cute and Kara had been tired and hurting and that kiss (http://www.sendspace.com/file/fqimun) is love. :-D

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
Point of no Pilots return. Honestly, it wasn't on the show. I think it was about six months into reading fanfiction in 2006. The show might have been on one of its memorable and lengthy hiatuses. I had been reading L/K fanfic for six months and had no intention of stopping and was no where near being done. I knew it was no return for me when I still loved pilots even when they weren't on my screen every week. They didn't have to be. You can always have pilots anytime you want with fandom.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
Yes! I do multi-ship. Not as hard-core as I ship K/L, though. I am a rare pairing kind of shipper with them as a major exception. ;-) I ship Kara/Felix pretty hard. (I'm an AU shipper.) I ship Kara/Caprica. I ship Lee/Kendra. I ship Felix/Lee. This pairings are hard to find fic or vids on but I've written at least one story for each of them. I love that you can just make it up!

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
EoJ out-making. Hands-down. I went on about it at length here (http://community.livejournal.com/sasa_hq/95193.html?thread=841689#t841689) and my feelings on it haven't changed. :-) Least favorite? It's a certain Scene That Shall Not Be Named. There may have been disappearing. I have only watched it twice and can't bear it. :-(

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
Hmm. Ending aside (since that's the next question) I wish they'd hooked up earlier. Like in Home or some time before New Caprica. Or. If they'd had a secret thing going on but before they each got married. I want to see how they would be after missions and CAPs but also having a relationship. Maybe I should want bigger things. But I really wanted a bit more pilots in seasons 1 - 2.5.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
I love this question. I wrote about it once in Pali's journal. I'll cut and paste it here:
Kara would save the fleet in some death-defying Viper run as CAG. There are many flippy ships and pretty explosions. They crash land on Earth, the Galactica never to fly again. There is mourning as the quiet Centurions rage about killing humans and humanoid Cylons left and right, their long patience at an end. All of this has happened before and is happening again. Bill takes Laura off to die somewhere, Kara and Lee covering them. There is little time. The odds are overwhelming. Kara and Lee are back to back, they know their time is at an end. But maybe Kara says something snarky and Lee says there is no place he'd rather be right now. No other place. Kara says, "Me neither."

The final explosions are spectacular and beautiful.

That's what would have happened if I had written it. Ah, pilots. Together until the end. :-)

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Heh - I totally ship Lee and Felix (on a more porny than love level). I know a few others who also ship them. They're fun and hot and interesting! And Lee/Kendra is also good. I forgot about that one, since their tenure is so brief. I would love to read your fics about those pairings! Oooh, another pairing, (now I have to edit my responses) is LEE/ROMO. I have found exactly two fics about them. They have a great chemistry on screen. Wow.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
Like jeeshee, I started watching with 33 and caught up with the mini partway through S1. I think I started to like the pairing right away, especially the "smack you in the mouth" comment. My first hardcore fall was during "You Can't go Home Again" -- the way he searches for her. Not just buddy cops.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
In "You Can't Go Home Again" when Lee realizes it's Kara in the cylon raider. Holy Shit! I was so excited for him to find her!!!

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
After "You Can't Go Home Again" when she made the comment about giving her a bath. WOW. I just wanna squeeeee thinking about it right now!! *G*

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
I don't ship LOVE interests for either but do have some things that pique my interest. I have a stalker!ship for Kara/Leoben, mostly because his fascination with her is, well, fascinating. I do porn!ship Lee in some slash pairings, but mostly that's because Lee is incredibly sexy and I can't bear to think of him with a woman other than Kara (unless she's there, too!) ;P

ETA: I totally forgot about my Lee/Romo ship. It's obscure, for sure, but their onscreen chemistry is great. And Romo gets Lee. I love it!

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
Most Powerful: The out-making in Eye of Jupiter. Kara's face when Lee says they're trapped GUTS me. It's one of the first times that I really feel Kara's pain about the possibility of losing Lee. Frakking breaks my heart.
Best: "Are we OK?" in Captain's Hand.
Least: When Lee decides to stay with Dee in "Taking a Break". I just can't handle it. Frakking sucks.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
I wish Lee would stop walking out of their arguments or would go after Kara when she walks out. JUST SAY HOW YOU FEEL, PILOTS!!

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
Angst Ending: When all's said and done, I'm ok with everything, including her being an angel who has to disappear. I want there to be less Kara/Sam devotion and more Kara and Lee sharing a moment at the end. I don't like that she has to leave, but if she does, I want ONE MORE FRAKKING MOMENT for them to hug and kiss and say goodbye. I could live (painfully) with that.
Shmoopy Ending: I want them to walk hand-in-hand over the green fields on New Earth and start a peaceful life together.

Thanks, Tara, for the questions. My SQUEEE is on high alert now! Wow! (Can I quit my job and just watch BSG all day????)

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

HA! Lee/Romo. I don't ship them but I so love them as BFF's. They would be awesome in a sitcom together.

((I so ship Romo/Sonja even though I just totally made them up in my head but I don't care-- they're my canon!!))

Unrelated question

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

Have we pimped this daily post thing in the usual places? Just want to make sure we get the word out to Shipper Nation...

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?

Hee. I've actually written a whole essay about that. Brig scene baby. Cue angst, cue hotness, and cue UST off the scales. I was hooked from minute one.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?

Leegasm. That whole intro scene was just awesome.

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?

When Lee comes back from the dead in the mini. I tell ya, when it comes to pilots, I'm easy (and fast- HA!)

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?

Nope. ((Except I have this total kink for Lee/Kendra ((plus a little Kara)))).

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.

Favorite-- brig scene 2 extended edition
Leas-- UBEX extended declaration of love. It felt overdone.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?

THEIR FUCKING ENDING!!!!!

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?

Either both die together in some tragic way or both live (and be human and not other) with a hope that they could start a life together. Not sure which I prefer.

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[coffeesuperhero.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
Not quite love at first sight, but close enough. I think I was pretty sold after that lovely (AND SEXUALLY TENSE) conversation in the miniseries when Lee comes back from Colonial One and Kara's like “ZOMG YOU'RE TOTALLY NOT DEAD AND STUFF AND OH BTW I HAVE MAD SKILLZ” and Lee is like “IKR LET'S MAKE OUT IN THE SQUADRON...READY ROOM.” Conversation heavily paraphrased. ;)

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
See above for heavily paraphrased conversation in miniseries. (Although I'm pretty sure that I said something along the lines of, “Well, they sure know each other,” during the whole scene in the brig. You know, when I wasn't totally swooning over Lee. (Speaking of love at first sight, I loved him from the moment we first saw his squishy little bitchface. LOVE.)

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
Colonial Day. There's just so much good there, from the water fight to the bad cop/bad cop to TOTAL DEAD FROM HOT that is LEE IN HIS DRESS GREYS AND KARA IN THAT DRESS.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
Do I count? ;) (I mean, if so, hell yes, right?)

Okay, for real though: Well, it's the end of the show and it's time to confess my sins, I suppose. If by “ship,” you mean, “Will write smutty, smutty smut for, because I like the idea of pretty people in sexy situations,” then that is a resounding yes, and I feel like that covers all manner of sins, really (I mean, Space: No Uglies, right?I call this my “So Damn Hot” rule). If, however, by “ship,” you mean, “Will flail over and generally be crazy about,” well, no, not really. (Funny story: when I watched the show the first time around, I actually went on IMDB and looked up how many episodes poor Trucco was in because I really, really wanted him to bite it or die in a plothole. I mean, we were SCREAMING at the television during The Farm. SCREAMING. Like, “THAT ISN'T LEE! GO BACK TO GALACTICA! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU! NOOOOO,” et cetera, et cetera. I feel like I've toned it down somewhat since then. I mean, the So Damn Hot Rule does apply. And I'll read and write other pairings for them, as long as it's somehow clear that there's an understanding that wherever they are, they're affected by each other, because I think that's always going to be true, whether they choose each other or not. If they've met each other, though, that switch is flipped, and there's nothing anybody else can do about it. Maybe they're together, maybe they're not, but it's always a factor.)

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[coffeesuperhero.livejournal.com]

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
#1 A+ GOLD STAR I'MA LET YOU FINISH BUT THIS IS THE BEST MOMENT OF ALL TIME: THE KISS IN HOME. I think we ran it back and watched that like ten times. Also, there was squealing. Soooooo much squealing.
Runners-up: Upsetting the apple cart & “I missed you” in Unfinished Business.
Least favorite: God, the end of Maelstrom. I had to watch it again the other day for a thing I'm trying to finish, and it just tears my heart out. Reminds me of the birds in “Out of the Cradle Endlessly Rocking.” Seriously, just have my heart, show.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
This is maybe only tangentially related, but I'd take the good and the bad and the ugly if I could just CANCEL OUT the weirdass pasted-on relationship between Lee and Dee, which was just unnecessary and offends me as a woman (like, don't even get me started on RDM and his raging sexism, that will be fun for no one) and which unnecessarily complicated the Kara/Lee dynamic. For real though.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
The show wouldn't have ended where it did, that's for frakking sure. Ideally, there would have been no pasted-on Lee/Dee, Kara wouldn't have kicked it in Maelstrom and they would have arrived on Earth that WAS TOTALLY THE EARTH OF TODAY. Like, I'm with Kevin Smith on this one: when they hit atmo in Revelations, WHERE WERE THE ICBM'S???? Anyway. Where they went from there would have been up to them, and I think I could have been okay with that as my canon, since as far as I'm concerned, they get it right one of these lifetimes, and I'm all right with that. Really, I just don't trust RDM with my heart. Sorry, buddy. Gotta have a little more continuity and little less deus ex machina to win this gal over.

[ecstaticdance.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
We (my husband and I) had been hearing about this show for years. It was great, it was planned out, it was well-acted, great story, etc., etc. One of our friends got tired of pimping it to us, brought out season 1 and handed it to us, saying, "Watch this." Which we did. I can't pick a time when I particularly fell for Pilots, as a pair, but I know it was before that OMG!Hawt cold open for Kobol's Last Gleaming. Because when I saw that my reaction was, "Now, they have to do something with it!" They always had a great, bantery, friendly vibe, and short of that scene I could have been okay leaving it at a friendly level -- there were plenty of other romantic relationships. But once I knew they were both falling for each other, I was lost.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
Again, I don't know. Maybe Finger Painting Pilots? Because they're just so cute.

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
Hmmm. I think it was that Kobol's Last Gleaming opening. Or maybe their fight on the hanger deck. It was that episode, at least.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
I kind of feel like I should ship Kara/Karl, because they're best friends, and Helo is so good to Kara and has this way of seeing through her and her bullshit without taking it personally... He's a good thing for her to have in her life. But I don't really. Maybe their relationship strays too far into the sibling-type? I don't know. And no. There was really never anyone else for Lee. He was too professional.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
Favorite: Umm... Actually probably the extended version of the scene between them after Kara found her body and Dee killed herself. I like the maturity and the support and the lack of desperation.
Least Favorite: Probably a tie between the scene in UB, around the ring, when Dee suggests they get a room and Kara's like, "tried it, didn't fit." It's so hurty and mean and just... Yeah, it's pilots, but damn girl! That was unnecessarily low on a lot of levels. And The scene with Kara and Sam and Lee when she gets back from rescuing them and is throwing herself all over Sam. Both scenes are just so... juvenile. Ugh.


6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
I would let them hope more, give them more optimism. I think the one thing that kept them apart, more than anything except RDM's whims, was their lack of hope for something better. I don't think either of them really believed that they deserved to keep the one thing that meant the most to them, which was each other.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
Oh, geeze. I don't know. I was open to a lot of possibilities. I wasn't necessarily looking for a happy ending, but I was looking for some kind of closure. As it was, they were standing in a field talking and then all of a sudden Kara was gone, and Lee was alone, and it was a complete non-event. He was making shit up, and pretending and she let him and disappeared, leaving him completely stunned and alone. I kind of made my peace with it when I wrote Talking Hands (http://jenrosebsg.livejournal.com/19651.html), but I would have been happier, I think, to see something along those lines more explicitly on the screen. Some kind of, I'll always be with you even when we're impossibly far apart type of thing. **shrug**

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

I kind of feel like I should ship Kara/Karl, because they're best friends, and Helo is so good to Kara and has this way of seeing through her and her bullshit without taking it personally... He's a good thing for her to have in her life. But I don't really. Maybe their relationship strays too far into the sibling-type?

I agree with you on this. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Karl as Kara's friend. It's great between them but no chemistry. At least they knew it right away and didn't get married. Ahem.

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
November 2007. A friend of mine --who is a big sci-fi fan-- told me the series was wonderful and I'd adore it, and after looking for some info, I decided to give the mini a try. Truth is I was drawn to the characters and the story from the start, and I fell head over heels in love with Kara Thrace --not a surprise, I always fall for this sort female characters, maybe because I identify with them too much. I liked Lee, too (not as much as Kara though), and I got hooked on their relationhip from the start (I am always drawn to the friends + UST dynamic. It's a weakness of mine). But I wouldn't say I shipped them from day one... That would happen later.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
The Lee!gasm.

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
The pilots trading punches. All the frustration, the jealousy, the repression, the denial... The whole display was so dysfunctional, but it was so glaringly obvious to me that they wanted each other so badly. And as twisted as it seems, that fight was another evidence that they were equals in every way, something I've aways loved about their relationhip. That moment made me realize that Kara and Lee were truly special.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
Definitely, no. I always thought that Kara and Lee were THE ONE for each other. I think Dee and Sam could have been good parterns for them at some point (or in an alternate universe where pilots never met), but I always saw them as the easy choice, the perfect excuse to not face their feelings for each other. As for Kara and Leoben, I find their relationship interesting, but not in a shippy kind of way. Oh, and I like Lee/Kendra, too, but I wouldn't say I ship them, either.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
My favorite moment was the brig scene. I find that moment incredibly romantic and mature. No matter what came later, I will always treasure that scene as the moment they allowed themselves to fully accept their feelings for each other in a grown-up kind of way. And their hugging in UB and the "I missed you/I missed you too" apology is also a favorite. But there are too many.

The least? The poof. I was fine with them not ending up together, and after Kara died I always had the feeling that she was living on borrowed time... But their goodbye was just so anti-climatic. So anti-pilots.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
Their ending. Even though I've reached some sort of acceptance after a year, it still breaks my heart.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
Well, here I am torn. I always wanted them to have a bittersweet ending, I never expected pilots to live happily ever (I always loved the concept of them dying together in a blaze of glory, given the nature of their relationhip, so damn epic). But what I really wanted was some kind of aknowledgement of the specialness and depth of their love. I would have been fine with a proper goodbye... and some hope, too (if all was about destiny in the end, they could have hinted that pilots were destined to each other, that they'd meet in another cycle, for instance --and that's he canon in my head, actually).
Right now, I also love the idea of a quiet ending, Kara never poofing and Lee just holding her hand. And maybe Kara smiling at him and saying "Now it's just you and me." SIGH.

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

Kara never poofing and Lee just holding her hand. And maybe Kara smiling at him and saying "Now it's just you and me."

LOL. That's EXACTLY the ending I wrote at Pali's journal when she asked this question.

Oh wait not exactly, it was "Guess it's just you and me now." Which is a mirror of what they say in UB before they go off to frak in a field. Hehe.

[thrace-adama.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
August 2007. (First week of the fall semester, before you're loaded down with homework--woo-hoo!) A friend who had the excellent taste to love Veronica Mars kept telling me about how awesome it was. I blew it off for a long time, but then was bored with the movie selections one night and decided to rent the first disc of S1. The rest is history.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
Hard to say; things have started to blur together for me since it's been a while and I watched it all so fast. But while I was hooked on them from the mini, it was the Lee!gasm I remember just freaking out over. I was sure I'd skipped an episode, and then, of course, Baltar was revealed. (SO. DISAPPOINTING. BUT ALSO KINDA AWESOME BECAUSE OF WHAT IT REVEALED, NGL.)

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
Again, I was really into Kara/Lee from their first or second scene together (honestly, I think I shipped it before I really loved Kara and Lee for themselves), but it wasn't until after the Home kiss, I believe, that I decided I needed more more more and peeked into the fandom, which is always a sure sign I'm GONE on a couple.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
No.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.

Favorite: There are so many! LOVE when Lee first sees Kara at the Colonial Day dance, and the Home kiss, and the extended brig scene, and the Islanded scene... Guh. Really, just any scene in which they're being AWESOME and not hurting each other, beautiful as their angst is.

Least Favorite: Maybe the scene in which Lee finds out Kara married Sam. That always hurts. Or when they just let their affair go with one word: "Trapped." I mean, HELLO, GUYS! GET IT TOGETHER ALREADY! OBVIOUSLY IF YOU BOTH FEEL THIS WAY IT'S A SIIIIGN.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
About them? Nothing. About their story? My biggest regrets for them are that they actually married Sam and Dee, trapping themselves, and that RDM thought it would be cool to kill off Kara.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
By the end I was actually hoping they'd die in the final battle together (because I sense it wasn't going to end WELL for them no matter what), but have some sort of meaningful interaction before they did. That's all I wanted. Ideally, I wanted that open-ended fade to black others have mentioned. Even just a "See you around, Kara Thrace" would've worked, though I would've loved to see them walking down the road (field, whatever) bickering, with maybe a "No takebacks" thrown in there somewhere. <3

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

Guess I should answer my own questions, eh?

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
Well I had watched Bionic Woman and been really intrigued by that chick playing the first Sarah Corvus who was really good! And I'd heard great things about Battlestar and knew she played someone on that show named Starbuck. And my favorite recapper at TWOP recapped BSG and all that was enough for me to rent the miniseries, despite not really liking sci-fi shows. So in January of 08 I got the first disc from Netflix.

I met Kara screaming make a hole and liked her immediately. By the time she punched Tigh, it was love.

I didn't like Lee much when I first met him. Heh. He was too pretty and pale (wasn't attracted to him, thought he looked a lot like Eric Mabius from Ugly Betty) and he was whiny and hard-hearted with Bill.

YET, I loved their chemistry. And their backstory. And I knew right away there was intense feelings there, esp after the came back from the dead scene. I think I reluctantly crawled aboard the ship starting with AOC/YCGHA when he obviously was so distraught over Kara being gone and then overjoyed to see her name on the ship, and the end with her being totally flirty and him not wanting to let go of her blanket.

By Colonial Day/KLG, I was pretty much onboard. I blew through S1 in about a week and dics were coming too slowly for s2 so I went out and bought the remaining seasons that were available cause I didn't want to wait on Netflix.

I do remember still having a moment of amusement/derision at Lee telling Kara to slow down during the Scar sex scene. But I loved their backstory and hit all kinds of tropes and kinks for me.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?

The Leegasm for sure. And then the Home Kiss. And then the hands in underwear moment in Scar. Hee.

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?

I can't pinpoint exactly but at some point I went online and started reading fic like a crazy person and watching YouTube vids (THAT SPOILED ME as I was only on s2 at the time!)for hours. I think the point when I knew it was a total obsession though was in June 08 when I went on a business trip and spent every free moment reading fanfic on my laptop pretty much. I remember that being the height of my pilots obsession.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
No. Can't really fathom it. (Although very occasionally I write a Kara/Helo or Kara/Riggins fic. I can't really imagine Kara/Helo on the show though and nor would I want it.)


5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
Favorite: That Home Kiss scene was perfect. And I love the whole arc of Unfinished Business, even the cheese. And the whole arc of Captain's Hand as well.

Least Fave: TABFYW for sure. And the finale.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
I just wish they had been given the chance to grow and accept each other like we saw in 4.0 and 4.5 before/without Kara dying.


7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?

As stated above, the raptor with Bill and Laura pull away and Kara and Lee just look at each other for a very long moment. Then Kara smiles at him and maybe takes his hand (it's very important that Kara initiate this) and says "Guess it's just you and me, now." and it fades out.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

As stated above, the raptor with Bill and Laura pull away and Kara and Lee just look at each other for a very long moment. Then Kara smiles at him and maybe takes his hand (it's very important that Kara initiate this) and says "Guess it's just you and me, now." and it fades out.

Perfect.

[eugis.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
2008. My first BSG episode ever was Unfinished Business, and I watched the first seasons after having watched most of season 3, so I was pretty biased on the shipping front. It was love at first sight for me. I don't think it could have been any other way.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
HOME KISS!

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
The first I ever watched BSG. I knew nothing about the show but I knew they were meant to be.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
No. I like other characters but not as love interests for them.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
Fave: Home Kiss, the lamest pick up line on Colonial Day (Lee's face is priceless) and every time they hug.

Least: All of Taking a Break From All Your Worries.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
I would have loved for them to have a moment to acknowledge their feelings and what they mean to each other. Oh, and the completely unnecessary marriages to the wrong people for the wrong reasons. Especially Lee and Dee. Just no.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
To be hones, I would have been okay if they had died together. It's kinda poetic. ;) Ideally, I would have loved them together on that field, holding hands. Just Lee and Kara because the rest of it isn't worth a damn, right? :)

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

It was love at first sight for me. I don't think it could have been any other way.

OF COURSE it was love at first sight if your first ep was UB! ;P

To be honest, I would have been okay if they had died together. It's kinda poetic. ;)

I find it poetic, too (in a masochistic way, of course ;P). And epic. And even romantic. Rings very true to their relationship, imo.

Just Lee and Kara because the rest of it isn't worth a damn, right?

So damn right. Sniff.

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[amidala-thrace.livejournal.com]

(Posting in two parts because LJ's comment length police hate me. :P)

Yay questionnaire! Love the yummy pics, too, especially the last one ... mmm, fic inspiration. :D

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
"Scar" was actually the second episode of BSG that I saw (the first was "The Farm"), and I remember being so fascinated by the dynamic that Kara and Lee had going on. I said to my boyfriend, "Why is he always watching her?" which led into a discussion where he explained the whole backstory with Zak and what had gone on there. At first I was like "So he's attracted to her even though she was engaged to his little brother? EEEEEEWWWWWW!" but as you may have guessed, I eventually got over that. ;) I adored them as friends first, and didn't really get switched on to the romantic aspect until after I saw "Unfinished Business". To tell the truth I kind of came out of that episode hating Kara, not understanding at all why she'd done what she did, which is ironic because now I'm probably the biggest Kara apologist you'll find anywhere. Heh.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
Tough to pin down! I think probably the hug in "He That Believeth In Me". Prior to watching that episode I'd spent about a solid week mainlining Seasons 1, 2 and 3 in preparation for Season 4.0's airing, and I remember being honestly kind of confused/freaked out about where they planned to take Kara/Lee. (I hated the Quad of Doom in Season 3. Still hate it, as a matter of fact.) The hug was my first reassurance that the K/L relationship wasn't going to end up a dropped thread - and honestly, I don't believe it did in the end - and so there was definitely some squeeing and bouncing up and down on my couch when I saw it. :D

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
This one's easy: after I read svilleficrecs' Something Pretty (http://svilleficrecs.livejournal.com/25078.html). There are some things about that fic that seem kind of "off" to me now, but I still adore it, and it would still be in my top ten stories-to-take-to-a-desert-island. That was also the fic that gave me the courage to start writing in this fandom, so I owe it that much as well. :D

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[amidala-thrace.livejournal.com]

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
I am a multishipper, guilty as charged. *grins* My primary "other" OTP is Kara/Sam, and I also won't say no to the occasional bit of Kara/Helo now and again. Basically, put almost anybody with Kara and I will be interested, hehe. (With the exception of Kara/Leoben - no disrespect meant to those who do ship them, but they're just not for me.)

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
"Scar" will always be special to me, because it was my first K/L episode. Lately, though, I would have to say that my favourite pilots scene is the sixth photograph above, when she's just rescued herself from the desert moon. Possibly due to a certain longfic that has eaten my brain. *cough* It's so sweet, though - his facial expressions are just adorable. :D

Least favourite ... well, the hangar deck scene in KLG1 is definitely up there. That's K/L at their worst, their most cutting, and it's just so utterly painful to watch. Painful, but unfortunately very them.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
Communication, people. Really, it's not that hard. ;) But then, if we could change everything we didn't like about them, they probably wouldn't be pilots, would they?

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
Well, obviously part of me would have liked them to end up together in some capacity (maybe with Sam? Because we've seen quad marriages on Caprica ...). But even if we had to get what we did, even just a final word, an "I love you" or an exchange of one of their catchphrases ... all of that would have made it about a thousand times better for me, and would have met my hopes/expectations that the Kara/Lee thread was going to be tied up somehow. What we got just felt like a cop-out, not to mention RDM beating us over the head with his metaphors.

All of that being said, I'm no longer nearly as bitter about the finale as I once was. I choose to remember the fact that the last person Kara was with before she disappeared was Lee, and to my mind there is as much communication going on with body language and so forth between them as there are actual words being spoken. Besides ... there's always fanfic! ;)

[stripes13.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
I remember seeing an occasional commercial (towards the end of s3) and being not interested. And then I got an iTunes Gift Card and decided to waste it on the Mini. I loved it and downloaded the first season....got to Litmus and promptly FORGOT about it....And then I got a new laptop and was digging through which files I wanted to keep and rewatched to the end of s1. As West Wing was my main TV love, Pilots became my TV mistress. As for when I fell in love with Kara and Lee? Kara was pretty much right away. Everything about her screamed awesome. It took a little more time with Lee, but the chemistry on display from their first scene kept me open to him. I was intrigued by his "Daddy-Issue" bitchiness, but wasn't floored by him until the scruffy hotness of 33.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
The viper waggle in YCGHA....but there was a louder squee after the Leegasm

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
Colonial Day.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
I was OK with Sam. I didn't love him, but I saw how being with someone who didn't know her was easy for Kara. I didn't like how they made Scar all about her obsession with him, and I wasn't overly happy that she'd gotten married, but I was OK with Sam, but still hopelessly in love with Pilots. And then I kept watching s3, and I stopped caring about Sam altogether.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
Fav: Home Kiss, all of the handshakes and hugs, and Lee's face in Colonial Day

Least: Taking a Break, and THE POOF

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
I'd find a way for Kara to express her fears to Lee without running off and marrying Sam. I get that it's not a magical cure, but if she'd just opened her mouth and said something to Lee, I think things would have been different. Maybe they would have started a relationship, maybe not, but it would have at least kept them from trapping themselves in marriages that were doomed to fail from the beginning.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
I'd let them actually have an ending. Start by losing the poof. In a perfect world I'd have them end up together, but I could deal with them being apart, as long as they were still themselves, and still friends.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

I'd let them actually have an ending. Start by losing the poof. In a perfect world I'd have them end up together, but I could deal with them being apart, as long as they were still themselves, and still friends.

Word!

[rdave1.livejournal.com]

1)When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?

A random need to watch a DVD that had been acquired with another purchase. The first scene on the recap was the brig scene and it was love at first sight. I just had this instant urge to know these two and what the frak their deal was. Why weren’t they making out through the cell? I needed to know.

2)What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?

It might be bit unusual moment to choose but I think when Kara thinks Lee is dead and she prays for everyone and singles him out. That little moment speaks volumes about their love.

3)What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?

“Smack you in your mouth, Lieutenant” OMG! You needed a hose to put the fire out between those two.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?

Hell no! I just like my pilots with each other. I honestly never thought that Sam or Dee were good enough for Kara and Lee respectively. Dee was just turned to a woman who wanted fame and reorganization rather than love from her husband. And Sam was a doormat. He loved Kara but not the way Lee loved her.

5)Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.

My favorite as depressing as it may be has to be the moment under the wings in Maelstrom. I think for once in their relationship they were honest with each other. They were just Lee and Kara at that point. May be Kara knew what was going to happen to her, maybe she didn’t but she needed to make sure that Lee would be okay. They always had this need to make sure the other was okay. Even after everything they had put each other through it ALWAYS was “Whatever it takes.”

My least favorite is hard to do since I love everything with pilots. It would be the fight in the pilot’s quarter’s in The Captain’s Hand where Lee throws getting shot by Kara in her face. He of all people should know how she handles things like that especially if they have a last name of Adama. The poof ranks #1 but I figured that was a given.

6)If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?

If I’m going along with the canon then the ending. I wish Kara had been able to explore the new world she lead them to with Lee. But if not then I would love to lock these two up at any given point during their relationship in S1 or S2, so they would have no choice but to address their feelings for each other.

7)What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?

The direction the show was heading in during S4; I had a feeling we weren’t going to get a bright shiny future that one of them wasn’t going to survive. I honestly thought it was going to be Lee. He would die for Kara so she could lead them to their new home. Then I wanted both of them to die during a battle as Starbuck and Apollo; doing what they did best and only with each other. I rather them both be dead then one suffers for a lifetime longing for the other.

But if the poof had not happened, I would have just been thrilled if they stood at the hill and started walking together to explore the new world. As much as I would have love to have seen a pilot!baby, that was not a reality for them yet. Just a sense of hope that now they had tomorrow to explore new land, renew their friendship and step towards more.

Last words: I suck at this but….

Lee: So what do we do now?
Kara: Nothing! Stop over thinking Lee. Just enjoy the view.

I would’ve loved for them to end it with pilots bantering. It was their thing!

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

Why weren’t they making out through the cell? I needed to know.

LOL. I love this! ♥

They always had this need to make sure the other was okay.

They really did. We don't talk about it nearly as much (why not? Why don't we? It's an oversight!) but I love that one of their constant phrases is "Are We/You Okay?" In Scar, in Captain's Hand, in Maelstrom--even though they cut it :(.

[reginaspina.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?

The miniseries; they re-aired it just before they began broadcasting season 1 and I fell COMPLETELY in love with the show, and with Lee and with Lee/Kara from the moment he goes to see her in the brig and you can tell they have all that history (and chemistry.)

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?

When Kara has the Dream!Sex with Lee while actually being with Baltar in "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 1" which is still, for my money, one of the most perfect opening five minutes EVER. (I actually watched that scene so many times I could tell you the exact time at which Kara gasps out "Oh, Lee!" - It was THAT hot!)

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?

Heh! Err, either the mini or "33" with the stims scene. They just had such AWESOME chemistry together.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?

I'll probably be sent to the brig for this :P But I thought Lee/Dee could have worked for me (if it had been written better and all the scenes that set it up hadn't been cut) especially after it was clear the show was kind of committed to Kara/Sam and I didn't want Lee to spend forever pining after someone he couldn't have without any love interest of his own. I'm sure some of this is coming from the fact that I wrote fic for the Lee/Dee thing and ... so I have a soft spot for it.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.

Aieee! I can't name ONE favorite scene - I'll have to go by season and you must recognize I am showing INCREDIBLE restraint in only picking one or two :P In season 1, I love the scene after the "Hand of God" mission and also the powerful, painful scenes in KLG when Lee's all bitter and jealous and Kara is hurt and ... GAH! They break my hearts there. In season 2, probably the little "dreamer/no takebacks" scene in "Home" plus the entire episode of "The Captain's Hand." Season 3 - "Unfinished Business" and under the wing in "Malestrom." I have no favorite scene in season 4; I'm still bitter about the way we were strung along.

My least favorite scenes between Kara and Lee? Easily the scene on Galactica in the last (or next-to-last) episode of season 2 where Kara's making out with Sam in front of Lee. I had kind of accepted that they weren't going to be a 'ship at that point, but Kara's actions and words didn't jive with how they had left things in "The Captain's Hand" or before Kara went to rescue Sam and the thought that they weren't even FRIENDS any more really broke my heart. Everywhere else, even when they hate each other, they're still sort of THINKING of each other, and here ... not.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?

I think I would cancel out the whole Sam thing. They already had enough obstacles to their relationship occurring (Zak and the chain of command being two of them) and ... I think a whole lot of stuff might have been different without Sam.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?

You know, I totally don't mind tragic and angsty and I would even have been OK with the *poof* if I'd had the sense that these were two people who cared SO much for each other (you know, if they'd gotten a final scene like Sam and Kara or Adama and Roslin, for example) rather than as mere acquaintances who were all "Hey, I'm going exploring" and "bye now, returning to the higher plane, have a nice life." SOMETHING, ANYTHING else. A kiss, a hug, even a handshake would've been fine >:|

[cynicalshadows.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship? I was in love with Kara Thrace from the second I saw her punch Tigh in the mini, and I fell for Lee in "33" when Kara mouths off to him, and while I loved them as friends right from the start (and really loved when Lee was floored by her Colonial Day dress) I didn't really start shipping them until "Home Pt. 1" when Kara returns and they hug and Lee just kisses her in front of everyone. I think my exact response was something along the lines of "OMG! He's in love with her! SQUEE!!!"

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment? Lee's reaction to Kara wearing a dress in "Colonial Day." His face there is priceless.

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots? "You Can't Go Home Again" - the whole episode. Kara saving herself and Lee obsessing over finding her and his shout for joy when he sees Starbuck taped to the underside of the Raider and they wing wiggle. It was all golden to me.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee? Sort of? I am a fan of Kara/Leoben and Kara/Helo, but in my head her heart always belongs to Lee and if I had to choose between the three pairings it would be Kara/Lee no contest.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots. Favorite scene is the boxing match in "Unfinished Business." It just guts me every time as it is them fighting like hell to move beyond the pain they have caused one another so that they can love each other again. Least favorite scene? The almost table frak flashback. I like that they were instantly attracted to one another, but I felt like that cheapened what they had and cheapened Kara's feelings for Zak.

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be? I wish they could be more honest with one another. They both take turns denying what they feel until it is really too late.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show? I am one of those shippers who didn't mind the ending. However, in lieu of that, I would have liked to see Kara and Lee supporting one another after the deaths of Dee and Sam. I think they would have leaned on one another and eventually ended up together.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Your fave is mine, too. I love his joy when he sees it's Starbuck in that raider. taragel's Common Ground (http://community.livejournal.com/karathracelives/9089.html?thread=177281#t177281) always comes to mind now when I think about this scene - how Kara is the fleet's good luck charm. LOVE IT!

Hm. I do not have an icon for my favorite scene. How is this possible?

[(Anonymous)]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
I'm embarrassed to admit that I was completely oblivious to all the eye frakking in the mini series and early season 1. It took me until the dress scene in Colonial Day to figure out that Lee loved Kara and it took me until the Leegasm to realize that the feelings were mutual.
I liked Kara starting from the miniseries because she was such a badass. I took longer to warm up to Lee. After the finale I realized I had underappreciated him and that he spent the whole time being overshadowed by Kara and I felt bad about that.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
Home Pt 1. Unfortunately I had to hold it in (very very hard to do!) because my non shipper friend had the DVDs and he hates people talking during movies..

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
don't remember

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
no but it doesn't bother me that other people do

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
favorites- happy scenes, especially romantic ones, declarations of love (Home Pt 1, unfinished business)
least favorite- where they have negative emotions toward each other (the post Sam marriage scene, the Kara trying to get meds for Sam phone call), and of course the POOF

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
just one thing?! No marriages to other people would be at the top of my list. And no frakking other people either.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?
Happy ending! I LOVE happy endings that show the characters in the ship are a couple and that their being a couple is the real long term til death do us part deal. A marriage scene can be a shorthand for indicating that.
Also in the 150k years later scene, they would be walking together in the background of the scene, with body language hinting that they are a couple.
For me, because they are OTP, it is important to me that they end up together in a permanent romantic relationship not a platonic relationship or temp. romantic relationship. I'm fussy that way.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Oh, man, I totally forgot how much I hate that scene of Kara making the phone call about Sam. Gods. It is a difficult one!

And the scene with kara mooning over sam in the coma. Feh. Dislike greatly!

:P

[acsgrlie.livejournal.com]

1) When and how did you meet and first fall for our ship?
I started watching at the miniseries and I think I was blown away by Apollo's hotness to notice the ship then but by 33 and Water I thought they'd be cute together. I was pretty much sold by YCGHA with his search for her.

2) What was your first squee out loud at the TV/iPod/Computer moment?
There have been a few but the first was the look on his face when he saw Starbuck written on the frakkin wing! And of course the kiss in Home. I don't think I was spoiled yet so it was a total squee moment for me.

3) What was the point of no return--the moment when you knew you were hopelessly addicted to Pilots?
YCGHA. I always liked the idea of Lee coming to the rescue yet Kara was never one to be totally helpless.

4) Do you ship other possible love interests for Kara or Lee?
Love interests? Not really but I like the friendship of Kara/Helo. And I could never see anyone else with Lee. In the beginning, if I hadn't already been a K/L shipper, I could've seen Lee with Dee but not after it became totally clear that their whole relationship was based on the fact he couldn't be with Kara.

5) Name your favorite and least favorite scenes between pilots.
Favorites: all of UB, the kiss in Home, the raptor scene and all of K/L interaction and angst in EoJ
Least: Lee choosing Dee (when she was finally ready!), Kara running away from him after Scar ("there is nothing here" *KISS* yeah, right.)

6) If you could change one thing about Pilots, what would it be?
Nothing really because all of their incosistencies and bad timing leads to great angst but I would've liked for them to get a happy ending.

7) What would have been your ideal ending for Kara and Lee as a ship? Would it be tragic and angsty or happy and content? What would be their final words to each other on the show?

My ultimate ending would've been happy and they kiss and walk over the hills to build Kara's cabin. But I would've settled for an open-ended situation like others have said but I just wanted them to be TOGETHER.

I also have a question to everyone here- I was reading a fic on fanfiction.net and I "added" it into my story marks and now none of the stories I marked are there anymore.
It was a future fic, maybe a year after they found Earth and kara "poofed". Lee was doing horribly by himself and one day kara comes back and he has trouble believing she'll stay but she says that she promises to never leave again and he finally accepts it. Anyone know what I'm talking about?