DPP: The Talk
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Oh Lee, why must your hair look like a madman's at this moment?
So, yesterday, in our discussion of what we would rearrange on timeline's canon, several people suggested that they would have liked for our pilots to just have at least one big honest discussion about their relationship. Back after Daybreak aired, either in the podcast or in interviews, the creators mentioned that they'd thought about writing a scene where Kara and Lee DID talk about why they were never able to make it work between them. I think it was supposed to take place in the tent before they came out and said goodbye to the rents and poofed.
Thus, my question today: What would they have said? What
Anyone want to take a stab at ficcing it?
Here's a few creative suggestions:
"I have a secret. This is just my disguise. I'm not really a girl, Lee...I'm a pigeon in a girl suit."
"I liked you better when you were Fat!Lee. Maybe if you gained a few pounds."
"I never thought I'd tell anyone this but...I've really been in love with Hot Dog all this time..."
"My one true love? Noodles, followed by democracy."
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Date: 2011-06-09 12:07 pm (UTC)I would love to see fic where someone worked in a convo that didn't change canon at all but made the whole thing more palatable. That would be an amazing feat. :/
(That deleted Under the Wing bit was about as close as they came and it just felt weird...)
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Date: 2011-06-09 12:20 pm (UTC)Other than that, I think the difference I would make between the emotional conversations they had on the show (because they had a couple) and a conversation that I would write, is that I would have them just not trying to hurt each other for a little while, and just acknowledge that they love each other and suck in equal measures and say that maybe they never will get to be together, but they love each other anyway. That would be my ideal conversation for them to have had as part of canon.
And then Lee could confess his undying love for Hotdog, safe in the knowledge that Kara would always love him. :)
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Date: 2011-06-09 12:24 pm (UTC)I need to think some on this. You're asking what scene the writers would have written, but I'm torn about wanting to give
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Date: 2011-06-09 12:24 pm (UTC)Second!
Final Moments
Date: 2011-06-09 01:35 pm (UTC)"He's not coming back this time," Lee says, his eyes still seeking out some faint raptor trail along the horizon.
"No he's not. And neither am I." She lets her eyes linger on him for only a moment before she turns away.
"Why, where are you going?" He doesn't understand, but something in his gut tells him she means it.
"I'm not sure, I just know I'm done here and it feels good." Her face is filled with some light and peace he'd never seen in her before. Gone are the harsh lines of a troubled woman, the woman he's love for so many years.
Lee steps towards her, his face sad and she shifts in place, setting them slightly apart and asks what he's going to do now that it's the first day of the rest of his life.
Lee stares at her for along moment and thinks about answering, but stays silent, watching her.
She gives him a sidelong glance. "Stop staring, Lee. It's rude."
He chuckles and digs his hands deeper into his pockets. "Are you really leaving? Now?"
"I don't know when. I just know that everything I've been doing since the I came back from the dead has led me to this moment. This field. I've seen it in my head."
"And then what? You're in the field and then you're not?"
One side of her mouth rises in a half-smile. "Something like that."
They stand for a few minutes, silent, watching the animals and the tall grass as it bends under the wind.
Finally, Lee speaks, believing that soon she would be gone. "You know, I always thought when we found this place that I'd want to do as little as humanly possible."
"And now...?"
"Now? Well, I'm not sure I want to do anything. I thought you'd be here with me, doing as little as possible, too."
Kara laughs. "Yeah, well, the gods have a different idea."
Lee sobers, his mind going back to a time when he didn't believe in the gods.
Beside him, Kara sighs. "They had a different plan for me, Lee."
"And it didn't include us..." he offers sadly.
Kara shakes her head. "No. We had our chance before I died and we screwed it up." She chuckles to ease the tension. "Seems just like us, right? Frakking it up all down the line."
"Hey, speak for yourself," he argues.
She raises an eyebrow. "Mmmhmm. I seem to remember someone picking his wife in a bar..."
Lee digs his hands deeper into his pockets and tips back on his heels. "Well..."
Kara's eyes linger on him and then swing away again. "We were friends, though, right?"
"Yeah. The best of friends, Kara... I love you, you know. Even if you are a first grade frak up."
"Sweep me off my feet, why don't you, Lee." She reaches out and smacks him. He jumps back a little and they laugh.
There's more silence between them and Lee feels like time is speeding by and frozen at the same time.
"I'll see you on the other side, Lee. I'll be there, okay?" She gives him a look of promise and he nods.
She's more beautiful than he remembers, standing on the field in her last moments. When he looks away and back again, she is gone. A sense of unexpected peace settles around him. He knows in his gut that she's going to be okay.
And so is he.
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Date: 2011-06-09 02:03 pm (UTC)Now I'm off to the shower to scrub the tears away!
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Date: 2011-06-09 02:04 pm (UTC)Me: "...and if you WANT to leave things unexplained, Mr. Moore, then might I suggest NOT actually tying things up in a neat frakking bow by slamming the last nail into the coffin. I have the footage right here. See? Just cut this part. Hold on, hold on. *sighs* It's rendering. Give me a second. Oh! There we go. Now watch this."
Lee: 'He's not coming back this time, is he?'
Kara: 'No, no he's not...'
[Cut to Lee staring out at the prairies. There is grass blowing in the wind and the faintest sound of a raptor fading in the distance]
[Cut back to Kara; she's watching Lee with a half-sad smile on her lips]
Kara: 'So what about you? What are you going to do? Today is the first day of the rest of your life, Lee."
[Cut to Lee. He turns to her and grins. End scene.]
"See? No poof. No unexplained phenomenon. You still get your 'artistic' ending and I don't have people emailing me death threats."
*uncomfortable pause*
"But I want a pigeon."
Apparently I'm not done ranting... 1/3
Date: 2011-06-09 02:13 pm (UTC)Apparently I'm not done ranting... 2/3
Date: 2011-06-09 02:13 pm (UTC)Apparently I'm not done ranting... 3/3
Date: 2011-06-09 02:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-06-09 02:14 pm (UTC)Re: Final Moments
Date: 2011-06-09 02:16 pm (UTC)I could have accepted this ending with open arms. Thank you for this. *hugs* K :>)
Re: Final Moments
Date: 2011-06-09 02:20 pm (UTC)Thanks, bb. Just a few tweaks to canon and maybe we could have all lived with it. Acknowledge their love, their history, their friendship - SOMETHING. :(
*pouts*
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Date: 2011-06-09 02:21 pm (UTC)I so wish he'd called you on that day!
Re: Apparently I'm not done ranting... 3/3
Date: 2011-06-09 02:23 pm (UTC)Re: Final Moments
Date: 2011-06-09 02:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-06-09 02:48 pm (UTC)Re: Apparently I'm not done ranting... 3/3
Date: 2011-06-09 02:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-06-09 02:51 pm (UTC)Even in Under the Wing, the only sentence of their whole conversation that really truly says anything concrete about them is Kara's "I guess that's all we'll ever be now."
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Date: 2011-06-09 02:58 pm (UTC)See, for me, if the conversation was going to happen in Daybreak, they hadn't hurt each other in a very long time. Not since before Kara died, and the final two seasons, when they did have moments together they were ALWAYS ALWAYS about supporting each other and believing in each other and loving each other. So if the convo were to come in Daybreak, it's even harder to make a valid reason for why they shouldn't make a go of it. Other than her poofing.
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Date: 2011-06-09 03:05 pm (UTC)we were a train wreck waiting to happen even before the world's ended, Lee. For us to make it here, to this place, to Earth, it took everything strong inside of us. We didn't have the chance to fix humanity and each other too. Something bigger than us demanded a sacrifice. I guess that sacrifice was us. But all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again. And maybe then, maybe one day, we'll get the chance to get it right.
And I guess then if I'm leaving canon canon, she can poof. and I'd keep my grumbling to a minimum . . . maybe.
Re: Final Moments
Date: 2011-06-09 03:09 pm (UTC)Every possible outcome where they are okay with it makes me say "NO!" Hee.
There should be pain and angst and tears forever at their parting. Shirt rending, breast beating, sobbing in the rain... merciful mountain lions coming along to speed up that trip to the other side.
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Date: 2011-06-09 03:10 pm (UTC)Seriously. Is madness.
Re: Apparently I'm not done ranting... 3/3
Date: 2011-06-09 03:11 pm (UTC)(THE HAIR! IT IS SO PAINFUL!)
Re: Final Moments
Date: 2011-06-09 03:13 pm (UTC)*thinks happy thoughts*