Daily Pilots Post: BSG--The Reboot

[thrace-adama.livejournal.com]

Hi, Shipper Nation! Long time, no see, I know, but I'm Heather and I'll be leading the DPP this week. :)

You know, my boss and I were talking the other day about where BSG went wrong, and we decided that the best place for a reboot would be directly after Unfinished Business (or, okay, she decided and I went along with it because as many problems as I have with Season 3 as a whole and the mess Kara and Lee were already in at that point, I can't deny I love the ep). Let's say that BSG ended with UB and you've been asked to reboot the series from that point, with a focus on what, in hindsight, the studio thinks was one of the strongest relationships in the show--Kara and Lee. (I know, I know, not bloody likely--just go with it!) You have *zero* knowledge of future events in the show that actually aired from that point on. Blank canvas. Where do you go with it?

Some inspiration:

Comments

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

you've been asked to reboot the series from that point, with a focus on what, in hindsight, the studio thinks was one of the strongest relationships in the show

BWAHAHAHA! Finally, they understand! It WAS the most important element. ;)

Back later with lots more thoughts! YAY!

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

I would show the affair in all its wonderful, painful glory. None of this "Surprise! We're making out and man it's hot, but hey don't blink because it's OVER now." ;)

The episode right after UB would have to pick up directly with them still laying on the floor of the ring and show how they get from there to talking again. (Maybe we'd borrow from fanon and do a "they clean each other's wounds in the head" shmoopy bit.) But it would still be awkward and USTy and they wouldn't really know what to do with themselves. However! I would also have to include a moment of pilots doing their job together as a united front in some way to show they still got it, can still finish each other's sentences and poke holes in each other's plans and strategize together and fight the good fight! There would be some rediscovered camraderie there so we can fix their friendship as well as their sexual relationship.

Then maybe the next episode, I'd still kill Kat! Hey, why not, right? But first there would be more of K/L playing Mom and Dad to the rest of the pilots so that Kat's death means more at the end and we'd get to actually SEE Kara be distraught in the memorial hallway and Lee come and comfort her. And maybe it would end with a kiss and their eyes locking with an "oh shit did we just do that?" expression.

Next episode, now we get to the insanely hot makeout...which leads to FRAKKING! \o/ None of this cutaway to the rosy afterglow either. I think we need more of a KLG1 kind of sex scene but, you know, full-length (no pun intended ;), hot and heavy etc. In fact the entire episode could be about them frakking a lot. Everywhere. Almost getting caught. Fighting with their spouses. Then at the end it would have to be a "now what do we do?"

Next episode: DIVORCE. ;)

[rayruz.livejournal.com]

Honestly, any BSG reboot I do will involve Tamara Adama being the final cylon, with Zoe and Tamara having created the cylon race together and there becomes this massive plot line about unboxing Tamara Adama and a big scandal about the Adama family within the fleet.

...but that's just me.

I need to think on this some more. Lol. Be back with more thoughts later.

[rayruz.livejournal.com]

LOL. I approve of your brain Tara... but I do want more Kara and Lee as Daddy and Mommy of the pilots (in that order.) I feel like that is so essential to who they are and it parallels the generations with Adama and Roslin being the parents of the Fleet as well.

[bouncy-nut.livejournal.com]

THIS! I cannot stress the THIS-NESS that THIS enough. In my brain, it happened just like that. :)

[kdbleu.livejournal.com]

No, it's not just you. :)

[ecstaticdance.livejournal.com]

From UB:

+ Kara and Lee should have gotten together after UB. Seriously, actually and truly. The pussy-footing and teasing was ridiculous and entirely unauthentic. Dee, the Dee that I respected so much in the early seasons, would not have stayed with Lee after watching that fight. She would have looked at Lee and said, "I knew she'd come back. I'm gone." She had too much self-respect underneath that insecurity to cling the way they had her do. Once they're there... I don't know so much about Sam -- he didn't have much dimension or purpose until after he got shot in the head, but he loved Kara enough to see that she loved Lee and to send her to him. I believe that, and I could see it happening in a way that ended with Lee and Kara together.

+ Bill and Laura were tired. They were old, Laura was dying of Cancer, Bill was dying of ennuie, and they both needed to be made to step down.

+ I would have tied the final five more closely to the Lords of Kobol. And delved into the original mythology. There was a lot of mysticism going on in the first couple of seasons and it got dropped like a hot potato and ignored in the last couple. That shouldn't have happened.

[ddt73.livejournal.com]

Originally in The Passage there was lots more L&K stuff in it, but as you see we got next to nothing in the final episode. At the end of the episode where you see Kara at the memorial wall, and Lee is there behind there. The scene goes on and they actually hug, as Lee comforts her.

So your vision of the Passage is not all that far from what it was originally meant to be.

I think you are right about doing it this way. The talking, the UST, a full blown affair, nothing by half measures. Let's get knee deep into it, and not act like they never had an affair. I don't even buy that in actual cannon, let's put that idea to rest here. :)

[poppypickle.livejournal.com]

HEATHER! This is a great question and I need to think on it more in order to answer. But I just wanted to say hello. ;-)

[poppypickle.livejournal.com]

I would show the affair in all its wonderful, painful glory.

I would watch that show. I would watch it one hundred million times.

Scenerio #1

[kdbleu.livejournal.com]

1. Dee leaves Lee after the Dance, acknowledging to herself and possibly no one else that she never should have married Lee in the first place. She was in love with an idea not a real and very flawed person.

2. Show the beginning of the affair, keeping Kat’s death as the breaking point for Kara but add Dee leaving Lee as the reason he’s willing to really be there for Kara.

3. Sam finds out about the affair but doesn’t take it seriously until Lee is who Kara turns to when she starts losing her mind when they encounter the Maelstrom.

4. Lee grounds Kara at her request, but his father accuses Lee of preferential treatment based on the rumored affair between Lee and Kara. Lee and Bill argue about love and duty. Bill goes over his son’s head and reinstates Kara’s flight status.

5. Lee flies Kara’s wing as she flies into the Maelstrom. Angry with his father at forcing Kara to fly, Lee leaves the service and joins Baltar’s defense as much to piss off his father as anything else.

6. Sam gives Lee permission to mourn Kara after finding Lee not hanging Kara’s picture in the Memorial Hall.

7. Kara is found in a drifting heavy raider two months after she flies into the Maelstrom.

[thrace-adama.livejournal.com]

Hi, love! I saw that you were added to the Yahoo! group at work. Yay!

[thrace-adama.livejournal.com]

Busy day at work, but I just wanted to say that you guys rock my socks. Thanks for playing along. Be back later!

[poppypickle.livejournal.com]

Dee, the Dee that I respected so much in the early seasons, would not have stayed with Lee after watching that fight. She would have looked at Lee and said, "I knew she'd come back. I'm gone."

I totally agree. They absolutely ruined her character with this nonsense.

I would have tied the final five more closely to the Lords of Kobol. And delved into the original mythology.

I actually thought that's how it was going to go when I watched the series for the first time. I was busy trying to figure out how the 12 Cylon models related to the 12 gods of Olympus. Apparently that was a waste of time LOL...

[poppypickle.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'm so thrilled to be writing for you guys and I can't thank you enough for hooking it up. I forgot how nice it is to be doing something semi-creative! Double yay!

[kdbleu.livejournal.com]

+ I would have tied the final five more closely to the Lords of Kobol. And delved into the original mythology. There was a lot of mysticism going on in the first couple of seasons and it got dropped like a hot potato and ignored in the last couple. That shouldn't have happened.

It would have been great if the mythlogy of the first two seasons were important to the final season and the final five cylons. *sigh*

Scenerio #2

[kdbleu.livejournal.com]

1. After the Dance Lee and Kara don’t jump into having an affair. Kara is more than willing, but Lee won’t cheat. Tension and unsuccessful avoidance abounds.

2. Kara is still shot down on the algae planet. Lee and Sam fight over her rescue, but the argument ends in Lee’s inadvertent confession of love for Kara in front of Sam and Dee.

3. Sam asks Kara is she loves Lee and gives her an out when she doesn’t answer.

4. Kara tells Lee she’ll leave Sam if he leaves Dee. Lee hesitates until Kara nearly flies in the Maelstrom. He stops her from killing herself, and they return to Galactica together.

5. Lee leaves the military and Dee to follow his own destiny instead doing only what’s expected of him.

Re: Scenerio #1

[lizziec]

Lee grounds Kara at her request

Just wanted to comment on this - I spent the entirety of the second watch through of Maelstrom internally screaming at Lee to ground her, especially during Under the Wing. If she didn't trust herself that should have been a huge warning sign. I'm not sure that s1 Lee would have responded to her the same way that s3 Lee did either. I think s1 him may have listened to her instincts more.

Re: Scenerio #2

[kl-shipper1.livejournal.com]

I love both of these scenarios-- definitely wish that we had gotten something more like this than what we were actually given.

[pressdbtwnpages.livejournal.com]

I don't know so much about Sam -- he didn't have much dimension or purpose until after he got shot in the head

Just made me laugh so hard I hurt myself. Not that I disagree are all. WELL PUT!

Re: Scenerio #1

[kdbleu.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure that S1 Kara would have willingly admitted she needed to be taken out of the fight though.

Re: Scenerio #1 - oops, this got *long*

[lizziec]

No, I completely agree there. Really, for maximum alternate timeline I suspect S1 Lee would need to be having the conversation with S3 Kara. But with so much having happened to them by S3 I'm not entirely sure how that conversation would have gone down.

I just really wanted it to end without her dying :( There are no words for just how devastated I was at the end of Maelstrom and I only had to wait two-ish hours to find out she lived again. I have no idea how people who watched it in real time and had to wait weeks managed.

To some extent I still wish Maelstrom had ended differently because then she wouldn't have been dead!kara and there would have been no *poof*.

Apparently I'm in to counter-factual Pilots almost as much as I'm in to counter-factual History.

[thegreenkitty.livejournal.com]

Hey Heather!! Just wanted to say it's good to see you and I hope all is lovely in your life. :)

[thegreenkitty.livejournal.com]

p.s.--Nice choice on where to reboot. My personal canon pretty much ends and becomes AU post-UBex.

Re: Scenerio #2

[kdbleu.livejournal.com]

I realized recently that one of the things that most surprised me in Lee and Kara's relationship was that they had any sort of affair. It's always felt out of place to me. I have a hard time with the idea that Lee would be able to be with Kara without it being 100%. I actually don't have an issue with the idea that Lee would cheat on someone, but Kara feels very all or nothing for him. But I also have issue with the idea that Kara would consider leaving Sam for Lee, be willing to give herself completely to Lee and then simply go back as though nothing happened when Lee can't commit to her.

Both my scenarios are an attempt to even out my all or nothing pilot love. *sigh*