[identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] no_takebacks
Hey shippers! We've had some wonderful comment!fic and commentary over the past two days. Bravo! Today I'm going to lighten it up and move to the graphics end of things. We've had a lot of "Favorite" posts, but I thought I'd do a Best and Worst post to capture the range of the most wonderful and most awful of pilots.

How you interpret Best and Worst is up to you: for example, worst dialogue can pertain to the writing or to the content - whichever you prefer (or both).

Opinions may differ but here are a few of mine:

BEST FLIRTY KARA
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BEST FLIRTY LEE

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WORST KARA HAIR
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WORST LEE HAIR

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(oh gods, I can barely look! AGH!)

Scan the list and leave a comment (pics, snippets, gifs) for the ones that interest you most. (And sorry for the LONG list, I really did try to make a table but LJ is FAIL!)

BEST

Best Kara Hair
Best Lee Hair

Best Kara Civvies
Best Lee Civvies

Best Kara Uniform
Best Lee Uniform

Best Sexy Kara
Best Sexy Lee
Best Sexy Pilots

Best Sweaty Kara
Best Sweaty Lee

Best Flirty Kara
Best Flirty Lee

Best Kickass Kara
Best Kickass Lee
Best Kickass Pilots

Best Cockpit Scene Kara
Best Cockpit Scene Lee
Best Cockpit Scene Pilots

Best Lucky Moment Kara
Best Lucky Moment Lee

Best Angry Kara
Best Angry Lee

Best Emotional Kara Scene
Best Leemo Scene

Best Hug
Best Kiss
Best Eyefrak
Best UST

Best Character Trait Kara
Best Character Trait Lee

Best Kara dialogue (any)
Best Lee dialogue (any)

Best Conversation between pilots

Best Pilot Scene

Best Pilot Story Arc


WORST

Worst Kara Hair
Worst Lee Hair

Worst Kara Civvies
Worst Lee Civvies

Worst Kara Uniform
Worst Lee Uniform

Worst Out Of Character Kara
Worst Out of Character Lee

Worst Kara dialogue (any)
Worst Lee dialogue (any)

Worst Luck Kara
Worst Luck Lee

Worst Conversation between pilots

Worst Decision Kara
Worst Decision Lee

Worst Pilot Scene

Worst Pilot Story Arc

Date: 2010-11-10 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com
I don't have my images here at work, so let's see what I can find on the 'net. I know I'm not being fair by picking different categories for each of them, but I needed to be able to find the episode caps.

Best Sweaty Lee:

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Best Angry Lee:

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Best Kickass Kara:

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Best Kara Hair:

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I'll have to do the Worsts later. :)

Date: 2010-11-10 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
I'm stealing that last photo for today's daily kara post. Shhh! Don't tell anyone. ;)

Date: 2010-11-10 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com
I absolutely adore UB Kara! :)
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Date: 2010-11-10 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
Oh my goodness, the Home hair is truly amazing.

Date: 2010-11-11 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com
You know, as much as I love Lee in his flight-suit or an open-necked dress shirt or his tanks or whatnot, I think you have a point about the dress blues. Three points, maybe?

Image (I think this picture is pretty clear on the "Captain Commando" business too :P

Image (Their expressions crack me up!)

Image (And the side view. )

Date: 2010-11-11 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
Seriously, is that the sound pack on his hip? It looks like he's wired for sound and has the thing on his hip.

Date: 2010-11-11 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com
Heh! I don't know - it's clearly a moment when it's Jamie and katee and not Lee and Kara (since she's holding the bottle of water there) - but I included it for completeness' sake and because they look super-cute :P

Or, sorry, did you mean the first picture? I think that's his gun? I don't know - I'm not usually looking that far to the right :P
Edited Date: 2010-11-11 04:01 am (UTC)
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Date: 2010-11-12 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com
Glad I could be of service :D

Date: 2010-11-11 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kdbleu.livejournal.com
That last one is just full of flirty goodness! *sigh*

Date: 2010-11-12 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com
It's lovely, isn't it? Although I think (based on that bottle of water with the brand name showing!!) that it's Katee and Jamie there, not Lee and Kara!

Date: 2010-11-10 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
Best Kara Civvies
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Yeah...I made the same face Lee did when I saw that.


Worst Lee Civvies
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Enough said.

Best Hug
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There are so many good ones, it's so hard to pick!

Best Emotional Kara Scene
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Tossup between this and her confession to Adama in AoC... but this one just kills me every time. I like short angsty scenes, enough to get the power without getting over the top.

Best Leemo Scene
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See above re: short angsty scenes. Hell, he did this whole scene with zero dialogue. :( Poor woobie.

Date: 2010-11-10 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaliak.livejournal.com
Worst Pilots Dialogue Ever:
The infamous "conversation" in the ready room from TABFAYW.
It's awkward, and contrived and just AWFUL.

Best Pilots Dialogue Ever:
It's short and simple: UB
"I missed you."
"I missed you too."
*flails*

I'll come up w/ more later, I think.
cheers.
--Lex

Date: 2010-11-10 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com
Waaah, I can't play until I'm home and can access my vast collection of photos. But in the meantime, at least I can contribute on the dialogue stuff:

Worst Pilots Dialogue Ever:

Although [livejournal.com profile] amaliak mentions the dialogue from the episode whose name I only know in acronym :P, I actually want to say that for me, it's the scene in "Lay Down Your Burdens" when Kara is making out with Sam, because while I was OK (at that point) with Kara/Lee being over as a 'ship, "The Captain's Hand" had made me think they were at least still friends. And that scene was so UNPLEASANT and I was embarrassed for both of them (and I think Sam was kind of embarrassed too.) I know Kara was drunk but ... yeesh. I hate that scene. It still makes me cringe!

Best Pilots Dialogue:

Well, obviously the end of UB. But I'm very partial to three other scenes: In "Resurrection Ship" - the conversation about trust, starting with Kara saying that she understands if Lee feels he can't back her up and ending with the hug; the scene under the wing in "Maelstrom." It's sad and tragic and heartbreaking, but I still love it so; and last, but not least, the scene by the wall in "Islanded in a Stream of Stars", although that's not really a dialogue, because Kara doesn't say anything - she just stands there and looks unearthly beautiful! But I choose to interpret her silence as expressing her unconditional love for Lee :P

Date: 2010-11-10 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
This is addictive and I must stop now, so I'm afraid you're getting a lot of bests and not many worsts, but I'll try to come back later to balance things out :)

Best Kara hair: I agree with the post above that her best short hair is in UB. I think my favorite long hair is in Islanded.

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Best Lee Hair: His best short hair is at the end of Season Three.

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Best long hair is in mid-Season 4.

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Best Kara Civvies: Casual and elegant.

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Best Lee Civvies

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Best Kara Uniform Of course they both look great in tanks, but Kara can rock that dress uniform.

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Best Lee Uniform

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Best Sexy Kara: Yes, I know this is an odd choice, but I like my sexy wrapped up with a lot of teasing charm – it’s the attitude alone that makes her sexy here, with little help from the clothes or situation.

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Best Sexy Lee

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Best Sexy Pilots: Is there any question? I despise this storyline, but their hotness cannot be denied.

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Best Flirty Kara

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Best Flirty Lee

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Best Lucky Moment Lee: Lee has had a ton of lucky moments where someone else has saved his life or given him the opportunity to save his own. He’s lucky every time Kara saves him, he’s lucky Billy saved him by getting shot at *twice* (in “Sacrifice” and in “Valley of Darkness”), he’s lucky the Raptor found him before his suicide proved successful in RS Part Two, he’s lucky that conveyor tunnel in Hand of God didn’t wind up trapping and killing him. But I think Lee also makes his own luck by keeping cool under pressure and taking very intelligent risks. My favorite instance of Lee making his own luck:

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Best Kara Lucky Moment: Kara also makes her own luck, to a large extent, both good and bad. This is my favorite example – finding the ship intact was a gift, but what she did with it was all her own resourcefulness.

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Best Character Trait Kara: Selfless courage, love, compassion, and endurance. There are a ton of examples, but this quiet one moves me.

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Best Character Trait Lee: Judging keenly and perceptively and standing up for what he thinks is right while retaining his loyalty and love for those who differ from him.

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Date: 2010-11-10 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
I know! Thanks for that cap, Lee makes me melt there. That ready room scene is off-the-charts with the two of them and their effortless chemistry. I love it :) It's just cool how they spark off each other without particularly trying to, even when the scene is really not about the two of them or their relationship.

There's a famous quote about the British Empire being acquired "in a fit of absence of mind." I love how, when the writers forget to angst them up, that absence of mind leaves room for their totally natural tangential awesomeness to spring up.

Date: 2010-11-10 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
They look like they're still frakking quite frankly.

Date: 2010-11-10 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helikedmyshoes.livejournal.com
What ep is this from? Holy lord, they are HOT here. *fans self*
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Date: 2010-11-10 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helikedmyshoes.livejournal.com
Oh, you mean that episode that I watched once and then immediately erased from my brain. :P I'm just gonna keep on pretending that they immediately found a storage closet and frakked. HOW COULD THEY NOT AFTER SHARING THAT LOOK?!?!?!

Date: 2010-11-12 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
Thank you so much, H! I always love your comments, and thank you so much for leading such a lovely DPP this week!

*hugs*

(P.S. -- Could I slip in a little request for a topic over at LeeAdamaDaily? At some point in the season four arc, could we take a day to just celebrate our favorite moments in the Lee-Laura relationship? I'd love an excuse to share the good times as we go along!)

Date: 2010-11-12 05:25 am (UTC)

OK, other bests ...

Date: 2010-11-10 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com
I can't edit my earlier comment so I'm just doing a new one - hope that's oK?

Waaah, I can't play the photo games until I'm home and can access my vast collection of photos. But in the meantime, at least I can contribute on the prose stuff:

Best Character Trait Kara: Her ferocious defense of what she loves; her loyalty; and in earlier seasons, her sheer joie de vivre

Best Character Trait Lee: His questing personality - I think he doesn't accept the status quo JUST because it's the way things have always been done. He is able to think of a third way when it seems there are only two sides. Aside from his personal relationships, Lee is a clear-eyed person and I respect that. And, of course, his deep and abiding love for Kara, as destructive and self-destructive as that sometimes has been.

Best Kara dialogue (any) - I don't think of Kara as being particularly wordy but I do love her "bright shiny future" lines in "Scar" because she's opening up about herself in a way that she rarely does.

Best Lee dialogue (any) - OK, I love the "Crossroads" speech, but I think my favorite Lee line is quite simple: when D'Anna says "all this has happened before" and Lee responds "but it doesn't have to happen again." That was a moment that I adored (and I sure wish the show had backed up Leland Adama there!!)

Best Conversation between pilots - oh, gosh, either it's "The Captain's Hand" at the end, or it's under the wing in "Maelstrom" because I just have this sense that they really, REALLY get each other.

Best Pilot Scene - Since I've already picked some dialogue-heavy ones before, I have to go for one of the ones where they work together - and I'm going to be a maverick and pick the mutiny scene with the guns and the hand-grenade and the two of them as someone (maybe Jacob on TWOP?) stalking the corridors of Galactica like lions! But also, because I am a harsh mistress - I actually LOVE the scene in UB when Lee finds out that Kara has just married Sam. The looks on their faces! OH MY HEART! SO AWESOME!!!

Best Pilot Story Arc - the arc that starts with "Scar" and ends with "The Captain's Hand" (or, really, i guess it starts with Kara calling out Lee's name in KLG and ends with "The Captain's Hand" where they come back to the place where they are friends and love each other.)
Edited Date: 2010-11-10 04:50 pm (UTC)

Re: OK, other bests ...

Date: 2010-11-10 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
I really agree about the Captain's Hand and Maelstrom conversations, and I am also totally with you in loving the Scar to Captain's Hand pilots arc (though unhappy with the Lee/Dee arc).

Captain's Hand just makes my season, in many ways :)

And the dialogue question, because it's fun

Date: 2010-11-10 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
Some random top tens for them, not comprehensive, just off the top of my head. My apologies if I remember these quotes incorrectly.

Kara Top Ten Fun Quotes

1) “Your plan sucks.”
2) Kara: “You are so unprepared.” Lee: “Shut up.” Kara: “You’re the worst CAG in the history of CAGs, actually.”
3) “Sometimes you don’t get the best results by shouting at people, sir. I learned that in officer candidate school.”
4) Kara: “I want him on my team, sir.” Cain: “And do you always get what you want?” Kara: “Most of the time. Sir.” Cain: “Good. Me, too.”
5) “Bitch took my ride.”
6) “Get my pilot to sickbay, now, now!”
7) “I missed you.”
8) “You can’t take it back, there’s no takebacks.”
9) “Let him go. I could do this all day, who’s next? Racetrack? Skulls? …Follow me. Please.”
10) Athena: “That’s not our plan.” Kara: “Could we not tell her the plan?”

Lee Top Ten Fun Quotes

1) “The lady’s in charge.”
2) Bill: “Are you…is your ship all right?” Lee: “We’re both fine, thanks for asking.”
3) Zarek: “You said you respected me. Read my book.” Lee: “Well, that was before you resorted to violence and hostage-taking.”
4) “I took an oath to uphold the Articles. The Articles say there’s an election in seven months. Now, if you’re telling me that we’re throwing out the law, then I am not a Captain, you are not a Commander, and you are not the President, and I don’t owe either of you a damned explanation for anything.”
5) “Whatever happens, Kara, I want you to know that I’m your friend. I love you. If there’s anything you need, anything you want to get off your chest, I’m here for you. Anyway, when you want to talk, just let me know.”
6) Jammer: “I’m not really cut out for this.” Lee: “Me, neither. But sometimes you gotta roll the hard six.” Jammer: “What does that mean, sir?” Lee: “Uh…I don’t know. It’s something my father says. Just…don’t shoot until I tell you to.”
7) “Garner was used to working with machines. Command is about people.”
8) “I was afraid…to admit how much I needed you. How much I needed anyone. I love you, Kara Thrace.”
9) “One of the things my father taught me, before he tossed me the keys, was that a Commander needs a strong right arm. I need to send a message that I respect Cain’s legacy, even though the truth is that I don’t. But I intend to give this crew their pride back, so I’ll let you carry her torch. Deal?”
10) Lee: “What’s that?” Dee: “It’s a package your father sent for you.” Lee: (pause) "Is it ticking?”

:)

Re: And the dialogue question, because it's fun

Date: 2010-11-10 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com
I love "bitch took my ride." I also love when she chews out Helo about Men being so painfully stupid!

As for Lee, I don't know if there's any dialogue, but I do remember how much I loved that, after Kara goes missing and Lee and Adama are frantic with worry, Lee still takes the moment to pin the Viper wings on Hot Dog that he earned by staying to back Kara up. It's this little understated lovely moment.

Also for fun Lee/Kara dialogue, I must say the thing with the grenade (someone help me out with actual dialogue here?) is wonderful. "YOu would think it was funny if you did it." Hee!
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
I totally agree! Those are all wonderful moments. The grenade thing is great, too :)

(Kara crouches behind a crate)
Lee: (picking up grenade and waving it at her) "I never pulled the pin."
Kara: Not funny, Lee.
Lee: Yeah? It would've been if you'd thought of it.
Kara. No. Not funny.

I think it's great, especially because as initially scripted their roles were going to be reversed, but RDM changed it because he thought it was inherently more fun to let Lee be the sneaky one :)
From: [identity profile] delle.livejournal.com
that is (one of) my FAVORITE Lee/Kara retort - because it IS funny and she would think is was HYSTERICAL if she'd done it.

I hadn't heard RDM changed it around. I'm glad he did; he did so poorly by Lee (and Jamie) that's it's really nice he managed to give us a good Lee moment.

(edited because I am an idiot and hit send too soon)
Edited Date: 2010-11-11 06:19 am (UTC)

Re: And the dialogue question, because it's fun

Date: 2010-11-10 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
Heh someone mentioned the "bitch took my ride" line in one of Katee's recent uStream chats and she complained a little about how hard it was to say in a way that didn't sound ridiculous. She was not a fan of that line. Heh.

Re: And the dialogue question, because it's fun

Date: 2010-11-10 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
Yup. She dislikes all the high drama stuff I think. Can't really blame her. I think they're awesome when she says them, but I'm not sure I could say them with a straight face either.
Edited Date: 2010-11-10 07:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-11-10 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelicalangie.livejournal.com
I will be back to go through some of these in better detail but I am have to say

Worst Luck Lee

When he married DEE - for fraks sake she acted all hugh and mighty when Lee and Kara were fraking around on her, but erm excuse me miss high and mighty did we not forget the stringing along of Billy????

He was so screwed when he hooked up with that woman - I see it as a rebound fling gone horrifically WRONG. bad luck Lee, that has to be the worst IMHO

Date: 2010-11-11 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com
Heather, you are a marvelous bus-driver, but I'm surprised that you left out the category of "Best Scene with Household Linens." Obviously, it's this one:

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Date: 2010-11-12 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com
Lee will be waiting in the ... ready room :D

Date: 2010-11-11 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaliak.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, was that my cue?

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Date: 2010-11-12 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reginaspina.livejournal.com
It's ALWAYS your cue :D A thing of beauty is a joy forever :P

Date: 2010-11-11 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaliak.livejournal.com
I totally want to add
The Best Pilots Kicking Ass and Taking Names Scene(s) were in Colonial Day

Not just the bar fight, but then the Good Cop/Bad Cop routine (which also doubles as HOT Pilots).

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*cackles*

cheers.
--Lex

Date: 2010-11-11 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaliak.livejournal.com
Best Pilots being Pilots Scene

This one is REALLY hard to choose, so I'll give you the top 3:

1. From the mini --"You are BEYOND INSANE!!"

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2. Resurrection Ship I - Don't text and fly, kids.

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3. Flight of the Phoenix - "Of course you lost contact. It's a damned stealth ship, remember?"

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WORST PILOTS BEING PILOTS SCENE EVER

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You know the one.

Dude, this is addicting.
You know, we should have a voting tournament or something. (like the one [livejournal.com profile] miggy did for Disney songs...tournament brackets and all (http://redshirts.net/disneysongs/songsbracket.html))

*squee*

Date: 2010-11-11 08:33 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Best Lee/Kara/Dee dialog (UB):

Dee: Why don't you just get a room?
Kara: Been there, done that. Guess it just rubbed us both the wrong way.

*Dee flounces off*

Lee: Motherfrakker!
Kara(eyeing the boxing ring): Hold that thought.

And then later, when Lee and Kara fight, he says something that's shown in slow-mo and with no voice but you can make out that it's "You've gone too far".

Date: 2010-11-17 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvety2010.livejournal.com
you guys ROCK!

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