[identity profile] lyras.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] no_takebacks
Hello, shipper nation! How awesome was [livejournal.com profile] amaliak's screencap in the previous post?

For the rest of this week, in addition to the discussion part of the post, I'm going to be holding a mini-drabbling session in the comments. I say drabbling because I'm a writer, but all forms of creativity are encouraged! Feel free to produce anything you like in response to the prompt - an icon, graphic, drawble, poem, ficlet...anything goes.

Today's prompt is...

Forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair. ~Kahlil Gibran

Have at it, and please post your response in the comments!

Onto part two: today, I'm interested in your pet AU theories. What things about Kara and Lee do you like to believe which you know aren't supported by the source? Do you repudiate the poof? Do you have issues with things in their past? Do you have a preferred version of how they met? Tell your fellow shippers!

My pet AU theory is something I mentioned in one of [livejournal.com profile] rachelindeed's posts a couple of weeks ago, and is that Kara's father was Daniel, the lost Cylon. I honestly believed this was coming for ages in the show, and was nonplussed when nothing was said by the end. Apparently Ron Moore has said it's not true in a podcast? Anyway, it makes loads of sense to me - much more so than the angel stuff we got in the show. It would explain her odd visions, the mandala, why her mother was so convinced she had some kind of destiny. It would also explain her extraordinary resilience (although obviously this was to a large extent fostered by Socrata). And finally, it gives us hope post-finale - if she can leave (die) once and come back, she can leave (poof) again with room for a return. So take that, Ron Moore. :P

Re: Drabble: Coming home (100 words)

Date: 2010-07-28 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
The gods are here, she realises, and takes his hand.

This. *sighs*

Re: Drabble: Coming home (100 words)

Date: 2010-07-28 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
Oh this hurts. So. Good.

Just beautiful! K

Re: Drabble: Coming home (100 words)

Date: 2010-07-28 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
I love the multiple connections between Earth, sky, and the divine. This was just gorgeous. Thank you!

And now for something completely different...

Date: 2010-07-28 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
Lyras assures me that off-topic is fine, which is good, because mine DEFINITELY doesn't follow that prompt.

Drabble: Forgotten Promises (200 words)

It’s not until she’s standing outside Lee’s office on Colonial One that she realises she’s left it behind on Earth.

Around her neck hang the deathless tags and ring. The ones she came back with; the ones she wears still. Homage to a life, long past. Her right hand is pressed tightly closed on the perfect match to this; not even a mirror image, but the same. They are the ghostly second set, splattered with her own blood, condemning her as a cylon, demon or worse. Edges of them digging into her palm like a knife.

One for Sam. One for Lee. A perfect balance, preventing movement either forward or back. Static and stable. Known.

Not like this new thing...

Kara closes her eyes for a moment, wondering what her oversight means... Troubled that it didn’t even occur to her until now. But she’s never been any good at reading the signs. The gods and their plans have always been too murky. Had it happened before New Caprica, she would have known, and this visit to Apollo would have had a different meaning... but now she cannot understand.

The object lost and never retrieved is the match to Zak’s ring.
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
Thanks! I'd push her too... but I'm pretty sure she'd just punch me back, so I'm writing her into her own happy ending instead. :>D
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
Oh, Zak. I'm reading/writing a lot of Zak recently. This is lovely. :)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
Thanks - you are sweet! This little missing piece always puzzled me so it was fun to write. :>) K
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
This was just lovely. Thanks so much for sharing it! You've painted a great image of balance between past and future with the idea of one set for Sam and one for Lee (which got the living set, and which got the ghost, I wonder?) It's a haunting, ambiguous final image, very well done.

This just goes to show that I wasn't paying enough attention to the episodes in question, but was one of her dogtag sets actually missing the ring?
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
You know, I actually always assumed that the ring on her thumb was always on her thumb, and that the ring on the tags was a wedding band that she never wore. If not, then that's an incorrect assumption on my part, but it still makes an interesting premise.
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
Oh, how interesting! Of course, two different rings, one on her hand and one on her tags, make sense to me now that I think about it.

Neat :)

Clouds

Date: 2010-07-28 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
Lee's life over these past years has been a successive accumulation of grief - pain and loss that he has only half-processed. Zak, the Colonies, Kara, Dee, and Kara once again. One would think he'd get used to the ache in his chest, but he knows it doesn't work that way. He still wakes every morning, pulling on clothes that will eventually wear out and he wonders how long it will take for the wounds to heal.

He walks far most days, when he's not managing or meeting or doing the thousand small things a man like him is supposed to do. The high grass of the meadow is his place of solitude, where he comes to ease the hurt and touch the ground where she last stood. He pushes his feet into the dirt, feels the wind in his hair and if he squints his eyes towards the clouds, he thinks just maybe he can see her viper shooting across the sky.
Edited Date: 2010-07-28 04:29 am (UTC)

Re: Clouds

Date: 2010-07-28 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
Oh my goodness, this makes me so sad. (In a wonderful, perfectly lovely way.) Favorite line:

The high grass of the meadow is his place of solitude, where he comes to ease the hurt and touch the ground where she last stood.

Makes my throat ache for that loss. You are such an amazing writer, H. :>)

Re: Clouds

Date: 2010-07-28 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
It is still an ache, that poof. I just read two Zak grief fics and had to answer the prompt with something achy. Thanks, honey. *tearful hugs*

Re: Clouds

Date: 2010-07-28 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
This was really gorgeous, thank you. I agree with kag523 in the line she picked out as exceptionally beautiful. The whole thing is so simple and sad -- Lee's grief is quiet and solitary, and so are his moments of comfort. It all feels very much like him.

I know I'm forever quoting poetry, but your drabble really reminded me of a bit of Elizabeth Barrett Browning's writing:

I tell you, hopeless grief is passionless;
That only men incredulous of despair,
Half-taught in anguish, through the midnight air
Beat upward to God's throne in loud excess
Of shrieking and reproach. Full desertness,
In souls as countries, lieth silent-bare
Under the blanching, vertical eye-glare
Of the absolute Heavens. Deep-hearted man,
Express grief for thy dead in silence like to death.


** meep **

I love your drabble, thanks so much for sharing it!

Re: Clouds

Date: 2010-07-28 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
Oh this is so beautiful. Thank you for selecting and sharing it with up. Love it!

Re: Clouds

Date: 2010-07-28 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
What a beautiful poem. The last line is heartbreaking - it is like a little death, grieving. Thank you for sharing it. *hearts in eyes*

Re: Clouds

Date: 2010-07-28 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
Thank you! I like to think of him on that field looking up at the sky wondering where she is. *cries*

Date: 2010-07-28 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
A lovely topic ~ I'm really enjoying everyone's drabbles so far! Hopefully the muse will strike for me at some point, too! :)

When it comes to AU theories, one of my favorites has to do with Kara's painted mandala. Having stared at it for far too long, I decided that the black scribbles in the white center of the circles looked like a loopy, cursive version of the word, "up." I'm sure this is just my brain being Rorshach-style crazy, but it's just close enough to plausible to work for me:

Image

See? Those squiggles in the center could be a loopy cursive "up," right?

The reason I love this idea is that it would mean Kara was equally fated to fly into that storm or to fly out of it ~ she could go up or go down; she could choose her destiny. The journey through it was the most important part, and having gone through her spiritual epiphany she could have flown *up* and still led the people to their true end. In fact, I think she might even have bypassed a lot of the awfulness in the first half of Season Four (it was her crashed Viper and her dead body that pulled her towards old Earth ~ without those, maybe she could have just concentrated on her father's music and found New Earth all the faster.)

I liked this crazy little idea so much that I wrote a tiny story about it ~ that was my first venture into BSG fanfiction. It's called Shortcuts (http://rachelindeed.livejournal.com/5454.html), if anyone's interested :)

Date: 2010-07-28 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
Eeeee! I LOVE THIS PREMISE! *borrows your brain for next bit of writing*

Date: 2010-07-28 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baciami2.livejournal.com
Has anyone ever been able to transcribe the poem next to the mandala? I seem to read "stroking my hair" and "every delicious sip" and "beat of his heart."

Date: 2010-07-28 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
You get a pretty good look at the poem in both "Valley of Darkness" and "Maelstrom." From pausing my DVD and squinting, this is what I come up with:

Methodicaly
Smoking my cigarette
every breath
i breathe
wet the day
with every delicious sip
i drink away the night
stroking my hair to
the beat of his heart
watching a
boy turn
into a Man


I'm not sure about the word "wet," but other than that I'm pretty sure this is right.

In his commentary, Ron Moore says that Tahmoh and Katee went into the apartment and did a lot of the painting on the walls themselves before they filmed the first scene there. If I had to guess, I'd bet that poem was a Katee Sackhoff contribution :)

Date: 2010-07-28 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baciami2.livejournal.com
Thanks so much! I don't have any of the dvd's. Instead I tivo'd about 50 of my favorite episodes. Maelstrom was too painful and I can't recall why I didn't keep Valley of Darkness.

Date: 2010-07-28 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
Hee! Valley of Darkness is pretty by-the-numbers when it comes to the plot and action, but I love it because it has such beautiful character notes amid all the craziness. The scene with Kara and Helo in her old apartment is so haunting and unexpectedly lovely. And I really love the little dialogue exchange between Lee and the scared deckhand he's recruited to fight the Centurions:

Deckhand: I'm not really cut out for this, sir.
Lee: (wry) Me, neither. But sometimes you gotta roll the hard six.
Deckhand: What does that mean?
Lee: Um...I don't know. It's something my father says. Just don't shoot until I tell you to, okay?

I laugh every time on that one. Plus I love Tigh's great last line: "Thank the gods I didn't have kids."

So fun :)

Date: 2010-07-28 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
I love that lee scene, too. Thank you for reminding me of it. I'll have to watch it again later. Hee.

Date: 2010-07-28 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baciami2.livejournal.com
Those scenes are in those ep's? Well then I'll have to remember when they start rerunning the episodes on syfy, which I'm sure they'll do at some point. Thanks for the heads up!

Date: 2010-07-29 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helikedmyshoes.livejournal.com
It's "out" not "wet." :) I love that poem.

Date: 2010-07-29 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com
Ahah! That would make sense :)

Thank you!

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