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As members of Shipper Nation, we love our pilots, both together and singly, but what exactly was it that made us love them? What scene tipped the balance from liking the pilots to loving them? Try to pinpoint what this moment was for you for Kara alone, Lee alone, and Kara/Lee.

Date: 2010-06-10 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olaf47.livejournal.com
I had sort of decided to watch the show months before I actually watched it (I had to wait until my semester ended and I had time.) I saw a picspam of Lee Adama's arms and was immediately hooked.

And so I heard a bit about Lee and Kara before watching, and before even seeing the first episode I was fairly certain that Kara was the coolest person ever.

And indeed, I loved Kara from the beginning. It was immediate. My love for Lee was less so, though "The lady's in charge" was pretty great. When it comes right down to it though, I don't love Lee without Kara. If Kara never existed, Lee would be okay, in my mind, but I wouldn't love him the way I do now. I love Lee partly (or, perhaps, mostly) due to his relationship with Kara. I love the way she can make him laugh, or make him want to punch something. I love the way she brings things out in him--I love his relationship with his family, seen through her.

So true, undying love for both of them came to me when she finds out he's alive. Because what I love about them is that they can be strong and badass and everything else that they are, but they're also sort of lost for each other, a beat behind everything else, unable to break eye contact.

Date: 2010-06-10 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
Hee. MINDMELD. See my answers below.

Date: 2010-06-11 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
You are totally rocking that icon. Awesome! I love it!

Date: 2010-06-11 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
Lol! I am so ridiculously proud of myself for basically teaching myself two new software programs and spending...um...a lot of hours when I should have been working today making it!!

Date: 2010-06-11 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
Excellent! What did you use for the animation? I'd love to make some animated gifs. (That icons is really mesmerizing, she is so frakking cute and I am in love with her shoulders.) LOL!

Date: 2010-06-11 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
Ok you're going to regret asking but let's see I took the gif that I made at gifsoup.com from the youtube file and used gifninja.com (I think) to split it into separate frames. Then I downloaded the frames (there were 19) and I used MS Office Picture Manager to turn them all B&W, then I opened them in MS PAINT to resize them all to 100 x 80 and add the little name part at the bottom. THEN I uploaded some of the frames to gickr.com and experimented with which ones I wanted until i had a nice animation. Then I saved it.

BUT the gif was 60 MB so I couldn't upload it as a userpic. Therefore I downloaded GIMP (which is like a ghetto free photoshop) and found a tutorial online that showed me how to tinker with the color profile so that it used less colors which brought the size down to 40KB and I could finally upload it.

WHEW! I am sure there are way way easier ways to make an icon, but yeah, that's how I did it. (And uh the reason why I got no other work done today! Sometimes being one-track is a real problem.) ;)

Date: 2010-06-11 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
I am SOOO loving that you gave me the details. All those steps seem about right - when I've tried to make them they're always huge and I can't reduce them and re-gif them, so I give up. I've also tried gifninja and like it, but it gets cranky and doesn't have a lot of speed options, so you get teh-superfast-outmaking sometimes! I am def going to try gifsoup - there are lots of clips that I'd love to have gifs of and it rocks that you can go straight from youtube. Yeah, I wondered why it was BW, forgot about the 40k limit.

And, heh, there are easier ways, but they cost $49.99. Ugh.

Awesomesauce, bb. That icon is totally worth the effort!! :D

Date: 2010-06-11 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
Believe it or not--reducing them was the easiest part!!
You just go into GIMP (or maybe Photoshop if it works the same way) and click on IMAGE, then MODE, and click Indexed (if it's already on Indexed, click RGB, then click Indexed). A new window will open and where it says Generate Optimum Color Palette, you can reduce the number of colors from 265 to whatever will get the final size small enough. I used 80 I think? and that brought it right down to 40K. Hope that's helpful at some point.

Yeah gifninja isn't the best and you can't resize it. Gifsoup and gickr seemed cool.

Date: 2010-06-10 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kag523.livejournal.com
I'm not going to explain mine, because you've already done it brilliantly.

Yes. THIS.

Date: 2010-06-11 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damao2010.livejournal.com
Although I really loved Lee from the beginning and, despite his shortcomings, even without Kara in the picture, he would always be way more than OK to me, I simply LOVED your description of the ways they are so much better together. That is one of the reasons they are my favorite couple ever.

Date: 2010-06-11 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olaf47.livejournal.com
I think saying he'd be okay was probably an overstatement. Because I do love him too, but I just love him with Kara. And everything he is with her and because of her.

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