Daily Pilots Post: That's Just the Way I Like It.

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

I thought it might be an interesting idea to devote a DPP to deep introspection and thoughts of the thinky variety because… well, useless K/L rumination is just my thing. But dudes, after pondering the idea for a while I just realized that it’s still Tuesday and we have the whole week to get trascendental and misty. So instead, today I’d love to chat about one of the reasons fic is such an enjoyable experience…

 

PORN!!!!

 

My personal history with porn is such as it goes… When I first discovered fandom –less than two years ago—I started reading BSG fic because I craved to learn more about the characters and their story, I wanted to dissect and discuss them and flesh the show in the process, and it occurred to me that fic was the perfect means for this kind of intellectual purpose (yes, it’s true, so shut up! ;)). But one fateful day I stumbled upon elzed ’s journal and her glorious smutty smut, and afterwards I discovered elly427 ’s stories, and soon after that I learned that something with such a striking name as pornbattle existed. And thus started my personal descent into Hades… Needless to say, I’ve become a total (and proud) K/L perv (not that I really care much, being honest… the only thing I try to avoid is reading porn at work!). So... what's your personal experience with smut?

Anyway, here some questions to ponder...

*What are your favorite K/L kinks?
(Oh, this is really easy… I love with passion infidelicious --I am not a fan of infidelity per se, but cheating with the love of your life? That’s another matter entirely. Also, I really like rough sex and tattoos. And sex in public places. And Lee being jerked off :D. Mmmh, I guess I am easy! lol).

*Which are your favorite porny stories?

*Do you think K/L smut is vanilla?
(personally, I think so! But I am happy in the K/L vanilla-ish porn, even though some more "imaginative" stories are always appreciated ;P)

*How do you envision Lee and Kara sexual life? Rough, hard and dirty? Slow and sweet? (is that possible? *g*) Both?

*And a kinda off topic question, but I am curious to know what you all think about this… Do you believe that Lee and Kara’s night on NuCap was their *only* time together? (because frankly, no matter what canon theoretically says, I can’t believe it!).

Again, feel free to answer the questions you feel like and discuss! :)

Plus, some inspiration! :D



Comments

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

Boy, am I glad I work from home on Tuesdays! This one will take some thought, but I will enjoy every second of thinking!

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

OK, so first, I totally love reading porn/kink/smut - about characters that have depth and where the kink in the relationships makes sense. ivanolix made a great post about Meta on the ways kink works in kink memes (http://ivanolix.livejournal.com/123551.html#cutid1).

*What are your favorite K/L kinks?
My kinks for K/L are different than for other pairings/groups, mostly because there's so much backstory and angst that I want that to be present in the porn. For other pairings, like my porn!ship of Gaeta/Lee, I just want hotness. For K/L my favorite kinks are probably public sex (or at least almost getting caught), rough sex (with Alpha!Lee), teasing and orgasm denial: those all seems to fit within the character context for those two.

*Which are your favorite porny stories?
Oh, my, I love many, but I'd have to put them into two categories:
1) Fics that are well-done and awesome for their intensity and angst, but don't send me to my rack:
Spiraling Down (http://katiebugs18.livejournal.com/4446.html) by katiebugs It's very dark and has some dubcon - is not for the faint of heart, but totally works and stays on my mind.

2) *I'll be in my rack* porn:
Coming Clean (http://taragel.livejournal.com/17507.html) by taragel is really hot and I love when Alpha!Lee yells in his best CAG voice GET THE FRAK OUT NOW to any nuggets who happen to be in the head. So awesome!
Confrontation (http://sci-fi-shipper.livejournal.com/4539.html) by me. Yes, I'm reccing my own porn, but hey, I knows what I likes. :P
(I have more, but not time to dig them out.)

*Do you think K/L smut is vanilla?
I think it's vanilla because there is a lot of emotional content. I generally feel that kink, per se, not just porn, involves some suspension of emotion to focus on the stimulating aspect of the kink. I think kink often involves a lot of fantasy. For K/L their kink is being together - that's it. They don't need whips or pegging, just finally getting it on is kink enough. (Cuffs are necessary from time to time, of course.)

*How do you envision Lee and Kara sexual life? Rough, hard and dirty? Slow and sweet? (is that possible? *g*) Both?
I think they frak as much as possible and wherever they can. In my fantasy, they have so much attraction and passion that they can not keep their hands off of each other. And it's always mixed, sometimes hot sometimes fast sometimes very achingly slow. Mmmmm.

*And a kinda off topic question, but I am curious to know what you all think about this.
Canon tells me it was their only time. When I'm in a canon mood, that's fine. I prefer fanon where they frakked on EoJ (and other places nearby). Frak the Lee won't cheat bullshit. He'd cheat. It's kara. *smacks RDM*

Awesome questions, my love. PORN FTW!

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

For starters, a sort of random list of some of my fave porny fics…

"The Sound of One Hand Clapping" (http://widget285.livejournal.com/318853.html) by widget285. A fic about Lee getting himself off while Kara watches + crazy bondage/control fantasy. Yum.

"Partners in Crime" (http://community.livejournal.com/tulipfic/61480.html) by rayruz. Lee and Kara kinda cheating on Zak. Super hot angsty smut.

"Public Property" (http://isla-verdad.livejournal.com/2842.html) by isla_verdad. "You and I both know that underneath that Colonial fleet poster boy exterior, you are a one kinky bastard, Lee Adama. Whatever your fantasy is has got to be a lot naughtier than anything you were willing to let on in public.". Also, tattoos are HOT.

"Untouchable" (http://taragel.livejournal.com/42607.html#cutid1) by taragel. Kara and Lee and an OC work out their issues via a threesome. This is what I call meta-porn, I love it! :D

Tara’s Academy Pilots series is super hot, and I especially love the chaper called "Letting Go" (http://taragel.livejournal.com/86210.html). Lee talking dirty + dirty shower sex + Kara’s insane blowjob skills + Lee allowing himself to lose control. GUH.

"Smirk" (http://hackaddict.livejournal.com/58188.html) by hackaddict."Lee smirked at Kara, “There’s only one condition and that is you have to wait sixty seconds before firing the gun; if you can do that, you win.”

"Something Pretty" (http://svilleficrecs.livejournal.com/25078.html) by svilleficrecs The premise is surreal, but the story is sooo sexy.

"The Human Animal" (http://idlerat.livejournal.com/182496.html) by idlerat. Lee and Kara have no trouble getting into bed. Getting out is more complicated. . A "they're trapped together" fic. One of the hottest and most in character Lee/Kara smut I've read, I adore the setup.

"Sleep Into Something More Comfortable" (http://sangga.livejournal.com/2658.html) by sangga. So brilliant and so funny!

"Worth It" (http://community.livejournal.com/dooooooom/43995.html) by dianora2. I am not a fan of Kara/Lee/Sam threesome and I usually avoid reading about Sam, but this one? Really enjoyable. Love the three POV structure. And this: "When he makes you come, I want you to look at me," he says. "Just me." *g*

Bee’s Borrowed Time Chapter 9 (http://workerbee73.livejournal.com/76154.html#cutid1). Deliciously angsty and frantic sex on the car in the rain? Infidelity? Pushes all my buttons. Also, love love the tender moment in the end :)

"Almost Like Living" (http://community.livejournal.com/tulipfic/58960.html) by rayruz. Lee pays Kara a visit a week after Zak's passing. So raw, angsty, desperate. Love it.

"Out of Reach" (http://nomanomynous.livejournal.com/6142.html) by nomanomynous. After Kara dies, Lee finds something she brought back from Caprica. Lovely writing, very sensual and moving (the sexing is Kara/Zak, though).

And basically everything by elzed, taragel, and elly427.

OK, and now I AM COMPLETE *g*

[sarvs.livejournal.com]

public sex (or at least almost getting caught), rough sex (with Alpha!Lee), teasing and orgasm denial --> OMG! Such cool kinks - am totally with you on the hotness of these kinks.

[sarvs.livejournal.com]

Wow - such a comprehensive list - sarvs goes off and searches all the porn - lucky it is very late at night in Australia, so she is not at work!

Great recs.

[sarvs.livejournal.com]

I think exactly the same thing as you - such interesting questions to ponder - just can't think of an answer instantly

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

I will enjoy every second of thinking!

Can't wait to read your insights! *g*

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

I know, right?!? I love the idea of Lee and Kara sneaking into a locker or around the corner for some super hot groping. I just read a two fics - one original and one re-mix with some very hot "I don't care who knows, let's frak right now sex". If you haven't already, read them now!

Original Fic: Untitled (http://olaf47.livejournal.com/215028.html#cutid2) by olaf47
Remix: Needful Things (The Lee Grows a Pair remix) (http://community.livejournal.com/bsg_remix/26578.html) by Anonymous.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Out of Reach is so awesome. Sad, sweet, gorgeous. I loved it. *pets Lee*

And Bee's Hot Truck Sex is A.M.A.Z.I.N.G. WOW.

I almost recced Something Pretty, too. Very cool.

[thrace-adama.livejournal.com]

Excellent list!

[sarvs.livejournal.com]

I know - both of them were incredibly hot, weren't they! olaf47 did such an amazing job with the original fic and the remixer just took another whole incredible take on it. Totally hits the kink with "I don't care who knows, let's just frak".

[thrace-adama.livejournal.com]

Oooh, fun topic! Will have to ponder your questions and then respond later when I'm not at work. :) I do want to say too that your inspiration is very inspirational, and I love how you colored the pics!

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

So glad that you suggested the author who wrote "Out of Reach" to cross-post the fic. I really love the story, especially for all the emotional content and how it portrays the Kara/Zak relationship --and the way Lee perceives it. So lovely and touching. Sigh.

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

Aren't they gorgeous?? The way they kiss is just so sensual and aesthetically beautiful...

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

Public sex and rough sex are two of my fave kinks in general --that I always enjoy in K/L fic, they are really fitting for the dynamic of the relationship, imo.

And it's funny that now that you mention Gaeta/Lee... I just can't envision Lee having sex with another man --we were discussing this topic some days ago at Tara's. For me, it's just too OOC.

I think it's vanilla because there is a lot of emotional content.

Agree. And that's why I am happy with it. I love reading porn, but just as a way to express something deeper, as a way to connect... I guess that's why I enjoy the well-written K/L smut so much, it's always more than sex.

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

I really liked Out of Reach too, even though the premise sounded rather iffy. The writing was great and well handled.

(Though I know some folks who were not pleased that it was posted at a Kara/Lee community.)

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

(Though I know some folks who were not pleased that it was posted at a Kara/Lee community.)

Oh, really? Can you tell me why? (just curious). For me it was kinda K/L, really.

[elzed.livejournal.com]

OMG

I am both honoured and just a wee bit ashamed at being responsible for your intro to fandom porn - here I stand, a purveyor of corruption and depravity for pure minds!!!

Oh, who am I kidding?

Very touched by your recs, lovely. As for your questionnaire, well...

1) I like my angsty infidelity as much as the next woman; like you, rough sex (but not tattoos, I must add) and Lee being jerked off tickle my fancy; I am also partial to dirty talk (and anything that showcases Alpha!Lee taking the initiative)...

2) Srsly? Too many to rec. But I am very partial to leda13's stuff, and Contraventions is a total classic.

3) well, yes, a bit. But it works for me...

4) any and all of the above - I mean, depends what the story is... I suspect rushed and frantic is most likely considering the circumstances, and that favours the rough, hard and dirty side. But, given a chance...

5) I don't care what canon is supposed to say, don't tell me they weren't frakking during the EoJ timeline. Because you don't do that kind of stuff and then... stop. Srsly.

[stripes13.livejournal.com]

Love this topic! I will return much later (sometime after I finish work at 5) to answer

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

I think they hadn't read it and perhaps thought...well I don't know. But I know a few of them are here **looks around*** so maybe they'll share their thoughts. :)

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

*haha* Your fic totally corrupted my mind! (not only you introduced me to smut but also to RPF ;P). But seriously, you are one of my personal Goddess of K/L porn --love that you have a thing for angst and guilt, and I must say that your Lee --with all his oh-so-hot alphaness-- is my fave Lee in fanfic :)

And leda stuff? Yeah, very hot. The sexin' in Contraventions is superb.

Because you don't do that kind of stuff and then... stop

ITA.

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

Aw, thanks for all the love for my smutfics you guys. Heh. I should probably be embarassed but...I guess everyone has a skill... ;)

What are your favorite K/L kinks?
You know, I'm not sure I have any particular kinks! I know that sounds weird but...it's kind of true. I am very vanilla I guess. I don't mind reading harder stuff but...I guess I don't have preferences. I know what I don't like (threesomes or really angry almost non-con sex like that one sci-fi recced up there), but...OH! I DO HAVE ONE! Hee. I like sex scenes that don't actually involve the full-on sex. Like Ray's Partners in Crime or Svilleficrecs' Something Pretty. (Or...I've written this a couple times, Driving Lessons and the first chapter of Smutstrav.)

*Which are your favorite porny stories?

Something Pretty is my hands-down favorite probably because of that kink I mentioned above (though Interrupted and Intra are also amazing). The first five chapters of Secrets and Lies (http://bsg-rp-apollo.livejournal.com/) is incredibly hot. And yes, anything by elzed and elly427

*Do you think K/L smut is vanilla?
Ha, yes. Compared to what I've seen/heard exists in other fandoms and maybe even in other corners of this fandom, very much so.

*How do you envision Lee and Kara sexual life? Rough, hard and dirty? Slow and sweet? (is that possible? *g*) Both?
Depends on the situation? I assume we mean in fanon because in canon...it was just the one time. And that was slow and sensual. (Though Scar was rough and hard and dirty.) I think it's interesting how much more "you almost died and the world is over, so let's just frak right now in this storage room" fic there was in the early days. I guess everything got much more complicated after that though, so it makes sense.

*Do you think the night on NuCap was their one and only time? Yeah, I kinda do. I mean logically it seems ridiculous during the fling, but....I do believe that canon meant for us to understand that they only ever had that one night together. There's something bittersweet and romantic in that idea too.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

(Though I know some folks who were not pleased that it was posted at a Kara/Lee community.)

Hmmm. That is interesting. I thought the fact that it was about Lee loving and missing Kara was sufficient for posting at K/L fic communities. I agree that it was handled very well and was really all about K/L in the end. I guess I can see why some folks didn't like it because it has Kara sexing with Zak. Maybe a warning would have been good? Haven't there been other fics that contain non-K/L sexing? Dunno. I'm curious, too.

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

Love your smut, Tara! --I think "Driving Lessons" was the first smutty thing of yours I read and I totally loved it. The banter was so great!

Compared to what I've seen/heard exists in other fandoms and maybe even in other corners of this fandom, very much so.

I must say, I am so narrow-minded when it comes to fandom. I mainly read K/L. The thing is that I do believe K/L porn is very vanilla but I am perfectly happy with it... I dunno, as Heather (sci_fi) was saying above, maybe that vanilla nature of K/L smut is because of all the emotional implications of their sexin.

There's something bittersweet and romantic in that idea too.

Agree. But dude, I find it so unrealistic that I can't buy it --and here I am totally projecting myself; I'd be totally unable to stop in a similar situation ;P

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

And it's funny that now that you mention Gaeta/Lee... I just can't envision Lee having sex with another man --we were discussing this topic some days ago at Tara's. For me, it's just too OOC.

Hahaha. For me, it's all about Lee having sex with anyone. He just really turns me on. What can I say?? It's only kink, really, without emotion. (FYI: There is a wonderful fic about Romo/Lee that might change your mind about Lee with a man. No sex, just incredible tenderness and affection - set after the poof: Life in the Everafter (http://zelda-zee.livejournal.com/404388.html) by zelda_zee)

But I digress...