DPP: Ugh, Mom and Dad Are Making Out (Let's Look Away Please?)

[winegums.livejournal.com]

 Hello everyone, I hope y'all had a good weekend - and a very happy 4th of July to those of you for whom it's not over yet! After the amazing DPPs we had last week, it looks like it's my turn to steer the ship (sadly not the pilots ship itself, or we'd do something about that pigeon, among other things), and I thought I'd open it with one of my favourite pilots moments from The Oath, a.k.a. The Episode With The Mutiny, Where Kara Shoots People, Feels Better About Herself, And Kisses Lee. In the wake of that, the little gem below is often either underrated, or completely lost:



I really, really love the fact that there is a tiny, not-so-obvious pilots moment happening behind the MAJOR DadAdama/Roslin one, and the fact that pilots here look like disgruntled siblings - it's not shippy, but seeing just how in sync they are, how well they understand each other (as is often the case with pilots, not a word was spoken here) and how they look a leeetle bit grossed-out by the fact that their parents (de facto parents, anyway) are doing pretty much the same thing that they themselves were doing just hours before, it never fails to make me smile. In fact, pilots in sibling mode always make me feel like I want to ruffle their hair - I love the fact that they connect on so many different levels, and that we got to see that in this episode.

That's enough of my rambling - how about you guys? Do you have any favourite non-shippy (EDIT: taking a cue from howlinchickhowl, I'm going to amend that to non-romantic, which I think is a better, slightly clearer description)  minor moments between pilots? Bring on the comments, pics and gifs if you do, and if you think I'm crazy for saying any pilots moments are not shippy, say so!

Comments

[amaliak.livejournal.com]

I LOVE this scene too! because they're all like "Let's never speak of this again."

Hee.

cheers.
--Lex

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Hee. Yeah, it did make me giggle even though you know there was a world of trouble coming ^_^.

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[amaliak.livejournal.com]

Lee glanced around the corner into the hallway, his eyes darting around for any presence of the enemy. Dear Gods, the enemy. Not cylons, not anymore. His own crew, the people that he'd fought alongside for years, people that he'd been ready to give his life for, now were the people he was trying to defend himself against.

Everything looked clear and he signaled to Kara to move forward.

"So," she cleared her throat. "About...back there."

Lee suppressed a groan. He knew exactly what she was referring to.

"Did you know? I mean, I think we all kinda knew but," Kara started.

"We're NOT talking about this right now," Lee hissed, hoping his tone would make her understand that he was not about to have a conversation about his father's love life while fighting for their lives.

"I think it's kinda sweet," Kara commented, catching her shrug out of the corner of his eye. "If it weren't..."

"Kinda gross?" Lee suppied.

Kara laughed quietly, repressed from her usual guffah that the conversation would warrant. "Yeah, I'm having trouble with the visuals," she admitted.
Lee chuckled a bit too, releasing a bit of the tension of the situation. "And you thought that torturing me with those visuals was the best idea?"

"I didn't want to be alone," she told him, moving to stand across the hall from him, back pressed up against the bulkhead and gun in her hand. She grinned widely at him and he made an exaggerated roll of his eyes.

"Thanks for that, Starbuck. How about we agree to never speak of this again?" Lee suggested.

"I'll add it to the list."

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[winegums.livejournal.com]

ahahaha, this is sweet and the dialogue is so pilot-y (a word I keep using a lot) and even though Lee can hold it together during SQN for Bill, seeing the evidence and that too with Kara is a bit much for them to take. *giggles*

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[mserrada.livejournal.com]

Yes! This is the perfect followup to the pics above! Still chuckling.

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[koolaidmom11.livejournal.com]

Hahahaha...perfect

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[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Hee! *giggles* Perfecto!

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[embolalia.livejournal.com]

I would love to see that list :) This is adorable!

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[ez-as-pi.livejournal.com]

perfect!

[rachelmack.livejournal.com]

I love the moment in the Pegasus arc, when Papadama is informing Kara and Lee that they've been reassigned to the Beast, and pilots share a look that's all "WTF IS THIS BULLSHIT!?!?!?", and then all at once, they simultaneously start Arguing With Dad. So siblingy and hilarious.

[winegums.livejournal.com]

oooh, that one was another of my favourites - classic pilots having to go off together even though they didn't want to be on the bad Cylon-raping ship (but I was still glad they were had each other, at least).

[shinyfab.livejournal.com]

I think the best part of this scene is the look they give each other. In my head it goes like this:

Kara: He's your dad.

Lee: Well, he's your commander.

Kara: Yeah, whatever. It's still gross.

Lee: Totally. *sigh* Are they done yet?

Kara: Give it a minute.

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Hee. It does so look like that, doesn't it?

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

I don't necessarily see it as sibling-like, although it can be read that way for sure. Bill is a father-figure to both of them, but it doesn't means they have to be siblings to think it's creepy strange. ;)

For me, all pilot moments together are shippy. That's how I roll. :D

[winegums.livejournal.com]

I would have no problems reading all pilots moments as shippy, but I think it makes their ship even more awesome that there are moments that can be read as non-shippy, for lack of a better way to put it.

[baciami2.livejournal.com]

I'm with Heather that this isn't sibling-like to me. I feel two emotions from them. First, Bill professed Laura was his SQN in SQN, and now K&L see that in action. Second, Lee & Kara's badassness revolves around taking care of business. Now there's a mutiny going on, while B&L out-make. Hellll-lo, let's stay focused. K&L are standing there ready to shoot mutineers who veer into the rear cargo hold because they know the marines are coming. Bill & Laura are "having a moment." I don't begrudge them, but our OTP is concentrating on the threat rather than good-byes.

[winegums.livejournal.com]

I have no problems with that interpretation, really! It's awesome either way.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

HA! Your comment made me laugh! "HELOOOOOOO!! MUTINY HERE!" Although, of course, Kara/Lee had a moment and I would have told the mutiny to hold so they could seal the deal. ;)

*still grinning*

[baciami2.livejournal.com]

I like your re-worked line so much better, "Hellooooo, Mutiny here!" As I'm working on my first fic debuting at the Sexquinox, I'm hyper-aware of my fellow shippers creativity.

Another lovely element of that scene is the Old Folks gettin' sum rather than the young'uns. Even that hound dog Baltar is moved by their lovin'.

Was it Tara and Bee who wrote the fic where K&L are stuck in the chute during the Mutiny, then can't hold off a moment longer to get it on?

And a filming note.... Jamie's hands are covered in some red goo (Marine brains?) prior to dry stowage kissing. He couldn't stroke Kara's face or hair bec said goo would have greatly increased filming time to reset after cleaning her up.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Hee! Yep, totally the goo from the brains of the Marine that Kara shot. Ew, btw. LOL!

AND YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY for your first K/L fic. I am so proud. I love new writers. I can't wait to read yours. :D:D

[baciami2.livejournal.com]

If Sexquinox goes well, then I'm cued up to send off a longer fic called "Long Weekend." KAG is going to beta me. *blushes at the honor*

Long Weekend = Lee + Kara + Los Angeles + cocktails + cooking + art museums + ocean sunsets + fun in the sun + s3xytimes EVERYWHERE (even at the museum - Kara is inspired by her fellow artists).

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

That sounds so great! Can't wait to read it! <3

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Lol at the red goo Marine brains on Jamie/Lee!!!!!! Totally gross, but no wonder he didn't do the face-stroking then, hee.

[howlinchickhowl.livejournal.com]

I feel bad that I have no moments to contribute, because I can't off the top of my head think of one and I'm not near my box-set currently (I know, it's a wrench) but I wanted to say that I think all pilots moments are shippy, but I also think all pilots moments are familial.

I think the thing that hits me deepest about pilots, that makes me a proper pilots shipper in a way I've never shipped anything before, is how they are never just one thing. They are never just lovers, or friends, or siblings, or rivals, they are everything, all the time (bonus point to anyone who can tell me what tv show that little phrase is an episode title for) That's what makes them pilots.

And pilots are amazing.

I do love this moment of childish grossed-out looking away, mainly because I think I remember hearing Katee say somewhere that it was very much her and Jamie's natural reaction to that moment, because they feel that way about Eddie and Mary, which just makes me think they are all just really cute and I DO want to ruffle their hair.

I THOUGHT OF ONE!!!

My favourite non-romantic pilots moment (I think I can safely say that all pilots moments are shippy, but some of them are not romantic) is the grenade stunt during the mutiny. It's just effortlessly brilliant, humour-wise, character-wise, Lee getting his own back on Kara for all the times she does stupid shit and doesn't admit that it was stupid, buddycops!pilots! So much good about that scene. So yeah, there you go :D

[winegums.livejournal.com]

I think the thing that hits me deepest about pilots, that makes me a proper pilots shipper in a way I've never shipped anything before, is how they are never just one thing. They are never just lovers, or friends, or siblings, or rivals, they are everything, all the time

I think you just said what I was fumbling with words for - that's just about the most perfect description of pilots I've ever heard, and it's why I nailed my colours to the mast of this crazy, tangled, occasionally wildly-off-course and floundering ship. They might have different facets of their relationship in focus at different times, but that doesn't mean the other parts go away, ever. And we see that often enough.

The grenade stunt was brilliant, though. Such a great moment for pilots - in that moment they're teammates, bratty siblings and everything else all in one go - in just a few lines. Love it. (and lol at Katee and Jamie getting squicked at Eddie/Mary outmaking, hee!)

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

I think that romantic vs. non-romantic is a good way to delineate scenes, since all are shippy to me. There are a lot of great non-romantic, but definitely Kara/Lee dynamic scenes. Like damao2010 said, the smackmouth scene is definitely one, as is the scene in Hand of God when she tells him not to frak up the mission. Gah. They're just so damn awesome all the time. (Well, you know, except for the times they are not, but I'm resolutely blocking those out of my mind. Lalalalalalalala....)

[damao2010.livejournal.com]

Oh, I love the "smack you on the mouth" argument back in 33. And when they are shooting cylons together in Kobol, they are in such sync there. I guess the scene where they talk about the mission to assassinate Cain, when Lee talks to her about trust and they hug could qualify as a non-romantic scene, as well. I mean, it is shippy but it's more about friendship than romance. However, I'm with sci_fi_shipper, every moment between pilots is shippy.

As for the scene in Oath, I totally agree that both Lee and Kara are sort of embarrassed and awkward about witnessing Adama and Roslin make out like that. HOwever, unfortunately, it was not exactly what Lee and Kara had done not long before because in Adama and Roslin's case it was about love in an established relationship, there was no hesitation, no misunderstanding, no conflict between them, whereas the kiss between Lee and Kara was about raw emotion and as usual it left them not quite knowing where they stood. Not that it mattered at the moment, because there were more pressing matter to attend to. And that was convinient because then didn't have to deal with it. And that is so sad. :(

[winegums.livejournal.com]

Oooh, I like all of these moments, but for me even non-romantic moments like the Resurrection Ship ones are tough to call non-shippy, even scenes like that have inevitable L/K lurking just below the surface.
And I really like your take on the scene in The Oath, it's sweet to see the oldies getting some but I like the interpretation that leaves the young 'uns awkward when they remember their own relationship.

[mserrada.livejournal.com]

Two favorite non-shipper (IMO) parts of Colonial Day that I love:
1) Kara spraying Lee with the hose. I think it played as more fun than flirty, so more friends than love interests.
2) The Good Cop/Bad Cop routine they used to interrogate the terrorist. Kudos on Lee being the 'Bad' Cop.

[embolalia.livejournal.com]

Yes a hundred times to the hose scene! I love that one. Also, in the same vein, the one where they're getting ready for Flattop's 1000th landing and spilling paint everywhere? Awesome.

[winegums.livejournal.com]

re: hose scene - YESSSSS!!!!! So adorable, they were back then, they looked like a pair of overgrown kids playing on their front lawn.