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Greetings and salutations, 'shipper nation! This is Amy, known on your internets as [info]ninjamonkey73, and I'm driving the DPP bus this week. Sit back and enjoy the ride...

Let's face it; this show has issues, and by extension, we have issues with it.



Pull up a couch and tell us what bothers you about the characters. storylines, universe. Think of today as a support group free-for-all.
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Date: 2010-11-05 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
I have only three things to say:

COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER
Image (http://s784.photobucket.com/albums/yy126/scifishipper/BSG/?action=view&current=vlcsnap-2010-11-05-09h41m36s78.png)

KARA THRACE IS NOT A BIRD
Image (http://s784.photobucket.com/albums/yy126/scifishipper/BSG/?action=view&current=vlcsnap-2010-11-05-09h41m01s250.png)

FRAK YOU RDM
Image (http://s784.photobucket.com/albums/yy126/scifishipper/BSG/?action=view&current=vlcsnap-2010-11-05-09h40m48s110.png)

That is all. Harrumph.

Date: 2010-11-05 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damao2010.livejournal.com
ROFL.

I don't have a problem with the first one, but I totally agree with the other two. Arghhhhhhhhh.

Date: 2010-11-05 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kdbleu.livejournal.com
*leaps half asleep from chair to applaud you*

Date: 2010-11-05 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aurora-0811.livejournal.com
Well said bb.

That last cap kills me. I still can't watch Lee go from hopeful about his future adventures to having the wind knocked out of him with her loss. Frak you RDM indeed.

PS....I hate tables.

Date: 2010-11-05 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
Yes, the first one is "tolerable" and the second is just stupid. The third, though. I will never get over it.

*makes magic potion to change the poof FOREVER*

Date: 2010-11-05 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
NEVER EVER EVER will I get over it. *HUGS YOU TIGHT*

Date: 2010-11-05 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
I think Kara could be compared to a bird...but it'd have to be more like this

Image

Date: 2010-11-05 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
Now that is some imagery I could get behind.

*shoots stupid pigeon and forcefeeds to RDM*

Date: 2010-11-05 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
Mythical, on fire, doesn't die. I'm good with it. ;)

Date: 2010-11-05 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thegreenkitty.livejournal.com
Well done, H. Completely agree on all of them. Especially the never ending horror of the poof.

Date: 2010-11-05 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com
I knew someone would go there.

Date: 2010-11-05 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
SSWA!

*slow claps you*

Date: 2010-11-05 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thegreenkitty.livejournal.com
Here goes...

Kara Thrace does not need Sam's "unconditional love"...she already has Lee's. On that same note, she has plenty to live for prior to meeting Sammy. (sorry, Helo, I love ya, but you got that one wrong in scar)

Starbuck = Top Gun. Except on the occasions when she lets Lee borrow the title. There is NO WAY that Kat would beat her score in the sim and deffo no way she would have killed Scar. (Bitch didn't even SEE Scar b/c she was too busy cracking on Kara...until our girl flipped around, found him, and GAVE Kat the kill.)

Maelstrom. Kara's "let me go" suicide/death. Finding "peace" through Leoben/not Leoben in order to be "ready to go"...I call bullshit on the whole damn arc. OOC!!!!! RDM, if you wanted shock value major character death, you could have killed yourself. We wouldn't have missed you. We certainly wouldn't have missed you as much as we miss Kara.

Kara Thrace is not an angel, pigeon, angel pigeon, or pigeon angel. She will not fit in a little archetypal box so why try to put her into one??

Lee would never send technology into the sun. WTF? If you want a character to suggest something completely idiotic disguised as a worthwhile comment, you have Gaius. Make him send shit into the sun.

There's more but the above seem to be the worst.

Oh, and TAB? Lee would've frakking followed Kara. There probably would have been punching. There might have been frakking. There certainly would have been crazy verbal sparring. Maybe our OTP could have figured out how to fulfill their destinies together. They are always greater than the sum of their parts when together.

Gah!!!

Date: 2010-11-05 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosetteferaud.livejournal.com
LOL.

Ok, I am ok with the first one, but totally agree on the other two. Also, that pigeon pic just cracks me up, it's just such a heavy-handed and ridiculous metaphor. Ugh.

Date: 2010-11-05 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosetteferaud.livejournal.com
*claps* Well said :)

The more I think about it, the more I hate the whole "Maelstrom" storyline. I mean, implying that violence and abuse is not that bad if it's for the greater good (aka Kara's special destiny) and trying to sell that child abuse can be so easily forgiven and forgotten... That's all bullshit, sorry (and I believe that anyone who'd been through any form of emotional/physical abuse as a child will agree).

Also, Sammy and his unconditional love. Gah! It's not that I dislike him, it's just that I can't stand the "The Man Who Is Devoted To Her" archetype SO MUCH. I don't find it romantic, I find it annoying.

Date: 2010-11-05 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swamp-ariadne.livejournal.com
yup it was bound to happen.

Date: 2010-11-05 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swamp-ariadne.livejournal.com
can tolerate almost everything except for poof. and the whole "kara is in love with sam but lee is her soulmate" crap. i know she's passing it off as part of the whole "kara is a flawed character", but... no. "had such a human reaction to the accident" my ass. and the whole not believing in divorce thing... oh god. this, this is why i didn't want to start. i buried all these issues away and now they're surfacing again.

*sob*

(goes back to a corner and drinks to forget. going back to dreaming the poof away)

Date: 2010-11-05 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com
I really can't even decide where to start. My greatest complaint is how the show shifted from one centrally focused on its characters to one about mysticism and magic songs, poofs and pigeons, cylons and civilizations.

So instead I'm gonna offer some less serious topics of angst:

1) SECOND BANANA SHOULD HAVE SPLIT.
Seriously, they let the other spouses-as-obstacles go on too long and the depth of emotion at the end made no sense for the story based on what had come before.

2) WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHIRRUN, WOMENFOLK?
Six Dicks on a Dance Floor was not my preferred ending. Kthxbai.

3) PUT DOWN THE WHITE PAINT/TOOTHPASTE.
For frak's sake, if Bill Adama can roll around in it, I don't want to see it.


Date: 2010-11-05 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
WORD! The most out of character Lee Adama moment EVER!!!!!!!

*smacks RDM*

BTW, this gif is soooooooo disturbing.

Date: 2010-11-05 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kdbleu.livejournal.com
That is a much better Kara bird.

Date: 2010-11-05 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com
You have so many great points, but let me just comment on this one:

6. Kara's flashback declaration that the only thing she fears is being forgotten. Bull frakking shit. Oddly enough, if I had to say what I thought scared Kara more than anything, I'd say it was a combination of being thought a disappointment and being left behind. The sad thing was that she assumed the first was, on a long enough timeline, a given. As for the second, she was scared enough of that to push people away before they could leave her. Didn't exactly work with her dad or Zak, and you know how well she bounced back from those situations.

I've thought about kara's greatest fear(s), and I think it comes down to two things: 1) that she will hurt/kill someone she loves and 2) that she will continue to feel alone for the rest of her life. These two obviously work at odds with each other and I don't have time right now to substantiate them. I think a lot of us have different interpretations of her "greatest" fear, but for me these work. Be back later for more. :)
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