DPP: Butterfly effect

[anamarya.livejournal.com]

Due to time constrains I'll get right to today's topic.


We all have problems/issues with some stuff from canon. That's not a news to anybody. What I'll like to hear today from you is



What is the event/decision/discussion that you would change from canon and what effect do you think that the change would have on latter events.



You can rec a fic that involves this, mention the event and maybe somebody else will pit it up from there or discuss it at length.

Comments

[apollosspear.livejournal.com]

Anders would be dead dead dead. He wouldn't even be a character on the show except mentioned in passing. I think no Anders (whom I despise) means I no Kara being "hung up on a dead guy" which was stupid. No moving to New Caprica, no stupid loveless (I will never believe she had any love for Anders except as maybe a friend) marriage, no dollhouse/mind/possibly physical rape, no Kasye mind frak (though I DO love how she interacted with the little girl)no quad of doom, probably a good solid glorious relationship/marriage with Lee and deffenatly no maelstrom death, and deffenatly no crazy Kara Demetrius crap, and most importantly NO FRAKKIN POOF!!! So though I hate rdm for ripping my heart out, I definitely blame everything bad that happened to Kara and Kara and Lee's relationship on that hfrhslfhbr Anders. I really really really hate that guy

[sugarhaven.livejournal.com]

Hmm, maybe if Sharon did not nick the cylon ridder from in front the Delphi museum in the first place, Kara would have never met the future Mr. Thrace. I always wondered why Sharon did it and how could Helo say that Sharon saved Starbuck on Caprica, when it was her fault that Kara got stuck there.

I do not hate Sam. He is genuinely easy-going and extremely likable. I can not blame Kara for falling for him, everybody seems to get along with him just fine. I like him during the NC occupation and in many other (mostly non-Kara) scenes, but I totally agree with you that bringing him back ruined some of the dynamic we already had on the show. I hated when Sam decided to join the military because I felt like he was kind of stealing Apollo's life. He and Lee looked so much alike and now Sam was even wearing flight suit, dog tags and double tanks. I was glad that at least he never become any good at piloting as far as I know.

The writer's clearly did not know what to to with Andres and kept teasing us with his early departure:
- Simon said to Kara that Sam was dead in Farm
- Kara leaving him on Caprica
- Sam catching pneumonia
- Kara repeatedly telling Sam to leave her between Exodus and Maelstrom
- Sam cylon/Kara back from death: how can there be a relationship?
- Sam being shot

I liked Sam but when he caught the bullet in the head during the mutiny, I was extremely happy. I felt like now with Dee and Sam dead, we will finally see some Kara/Lee goodness. Little I knew that that incident actually ruined any chance of that. I really wish Sam had the decency to not to survive the shooting. I can not blame Kara for trying to take care of him, especially after all the shit she put him through during their marriage, but I just hated the whole Sam in the goo bath and Kara being there for him.

To be fair to Sam, I am pretty sure that even if he died earlier on, Kara would have found some other poor moron (stupid enough to get along with it) to marry and use as a shield from Lee.

[apollosspear.livejournal.com]

Well this little tidbit sealed the deal for me as far as the writers and rdm go. SAM WAS SUPPOSED TO DIE IN HIS SECOND EPISODE. In the "Last Frakkin Special" the actor that plays Anders (I willingly forgot his name lol) says that he was supposed to die and that rdm liked how the actors got along inbetween shoots and the majority of the fans (us) HATED Anders, hated that he was coming between Kara and Lee so he decided to keep him. I take that as a big FU middle finger to the Kara/Lee shippers.

[kdbleu.livejournal.com]

The writer's clearly did not know what to to with Andres and kept teasing us with his early departure

Honestly, I think in the writers were worried about the actor's departure, i.e. getting another job espceially at the end of S2 and before S4, so they wrote little outs. ;)

[anamarya.livejournal.com]

To be fair to Sam, I am pretty sure that even if he died earlier on, Kara would have found some other poor moron (stupid enough to get along with it) to marry and use as a shield from Lee.

yes, I think that you are right when you say this. but sincerely i never thought of Sam as a life stealer. and I don't know if i can say that Sam joining the Fleet had anything to do with Lee but had a lot to do with Kara.
I'm ashamed to say that i don't recall exactly the moment that he started flying but for me him flying and Lee giving up his wings were always sort of linked with Maelstorm - like an opposite reaction to the same think.

and personally I like Sam. he is ok and without all the problems surrounding the QoD I believe that he and Lee would have been friends.

[sugarhaven.livejournal.com]

i never thought of Sam as a life stealer. and I don't know if i can say that Sam joining the Fleet had anything to do with Lee but had a lot to do with Kara.

I totally agree. He joined the fleet so he could move on to Galactica and be closer to Kara (at least I think). It had nothing to do with Lee. It's just that I was so used to seeing Lee and Kara both in flight suits and suddenly there were so many of the promo and DVD cover pictures with Sam and Kara in the pilot outfits. Just thought that making Sam a viper jock was such an unoriginal idea and made him kind of look like Apollo.

I like Sam as a person a lot, just don't like most of his story arcs. It is rare to see a sport star being so easy-going and no-bullshit guy.

[(Anonymous)]

So say we all! I can't stand the guy either... him and Dee. Both of them should have been long gone from the show. What the writers did with them and throwing at Kara and Lee was just frakking ridiculous.

All the other points you have brought up... I couldn't agree with you more.

Oh... The other thing I was wanted to add is the whole 'Black Market'/'Gianne' storyline. Hated that one too... especially at what they have done to the Lee character there.

Argh... Wish I had the ability to just 'erase' everything bad there on the show.