http://anamarya.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] anamarya.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] no_takebacks2011-08-25 04:15 pm
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DPP: Butterfly effect

Due to time constrains I'll get right to today's topic.


We all have problems/issues with some stuff from canon. That's not a news to anybody. What I'll like to hear today from you is



What is the event/decision/discussion that you would change from canon and what effect do you think that the change would have on latter events.



You can rec a fic that involves this, mention the event and maybe somebody else will pit it up from there or discuss it at length.

[identity profile] apollosspear.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Anders would be dead dead dead. He wouldn't even be a character on the show except mentioned in passing. I think no Anders (whom I despise) means I no Kara being "hung up on a dead guy" which was stupid. No moving to New Caprica, no stupid loveless (I will never believe she had any love for Anders except as maybe a friend) marriage, no dollhouse/mind/possibly physical rape, no Kasye mind frak (though I DO love how she interacted with the little girl)no quad of doom, probably a good solid glorious relationship/marriage with Lee and deffenatly no maelstrom death, and deffenatly no crazy Kara Demetrius crap, and most importantly NO FRAKKIN POOF!!! So though I hate rdm for ripping my heart out, I definitely blame everything bad that happened to Kara and Kara and Lee's relationship on that hfrhslfhbr Anders. I really really really hate that guy

[identity profile] adamas.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Lee wouldn't let her fly in Maelstrom! Even with him flying her wing!

Zak wouldn't have woken up on the couch the night they met!

Kara wouldn't have left in the morning after the ceremony and gotten married!

(In slightly-less Piloty issues, I think Lee should have gone on the Demetrius with her, if that story totally had to happen, and Gaeta and Sam both should have stayed behind so that there wasn't freaking drama and danger and we would've had a blast watching Kara/Lee and Helo and Sharon out on their own!).

[identity profile] sugarhaven.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I always wondered if Papadama accidentally walking on pilots making-out in the storage room (just before the Algae Planet) would make any difference.

In my ideal world...

[identity profile] callmeonetrack.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It's hard to choose, because everything shapes who pilots are but it's hard not to want to wish away the double punch of Socrata being an awful abusive mom and Zak not dying. I am conflicted though because it would mean Kara would be totally different, probably much more well adjusted, but potentially less...impressive? Less epic/larger-than-life badass and more normal well adjusted viper jock?

Ah here's my big one from canon:
They never would have went back for the resistance members on Caprica. Thus they also would not have found New Caprica when doing so. I wanted the show's focus to stay on the ragtag fleet on their journey to find Earth. The show changed for me at Downloaded and never really recovered.

[identity profile] winegums.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the single change I'd make, if it came down to that, would be the outcome of Lee and Kara's conversation in TAB to make Kara's point about leaving Sam just that bit clearer to Lee and make Lee actually take her up on it. End all the pointless angst and stop with the lies, because if you really loved your wife and weren't hopelessly in love with another woman, would you and said other woman be eyefrakking each other across a bar as she reunites with her husband?

I'm not sure what it'd change, really - at best, the outcome of Maelstrom might change because I don't think it's a coincidence that Kara started having those dreams and being haunted by the mandala at a time not that long after her affair with Lee ended, but at the very least pilots might have been together for a little while without guilt over their partners/Zak. I wish they'd had that, towards the end it actually looked like they could get there but then she has to go poof.

Actually, come to think of it I wouldn't have Kara go poof. We got the message, her return from the dead is probably supernatural and not within the bounds of logic. It doesn't NEED to be hammered home by having her vanish into thin air.

[identity profile] kdbleu.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I was thinking recently about what would happen if Kara had ended up with Lee instead of Baltar after the Colonial Day celebration. Would Kara have gone back to Caprica at all? While the obvious shipper result is that she wouldn't have met Sam. She also wouldn't have found the arrow and opened the Tomb of Athena nor would Helo and Sharon returned to the fleet with her. I don't know where it goes after that, but it would definitely continue to ripple.

And one of my favorites that doesn't necessarily change much for a while is what if Kara went back to Caprica to find Sam and found him dead? During most of S2 its easy to see Kara's obsession with Sam as an escape instead of real love affair so not being able to save him would send her into a tailspin and re-enforce her fear that loving her caused death, Sam's and Zak, keeping her away from Lee in a less contrived manner. I still think it's possible, likely even, that Kara would use New Caprica as a way to put distance between herself and Lee. I find it less likely that Lee would marry Dee without Kara marrying Sam. So after the exodus from New Caprica and Kara's escape from Leoben in the dollhouse, it's Lee who is left to help her pick up the pieces without the complication of spouses. :)

[identity profile] sugarhaven.livejournal.com 2011-08-25 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It is hard for me to think about these big what-ifs (like not finding New Caprica or Kara not dying), because they change the whole story completely and my brain just has hard time processing all the possibilities. If I could make a few tiny tiny changes, that would not change the outcome of the overall story, I would give the pilots some quality time between mutiny and Daybreak. Just the two of them sharing nights on Colonial One for a short period of time, having a private uncomplicated relationship. They both seem to be so nice and supportive towards each other around that time. They were both also pretty lonely (especially Kara) and I did not understand why they did not spend anytime together, even if only as friends.

Also Kara saying to Lee "I love you but you have to let me go" just before her ship explodes into Maelstrom would have been a nice touch.