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no_takebacks2011-06-22 11:03 am
lizziec) wrote in no_takebacks2011-06-22 11:03 am
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DPP: Historical pilots
Hello everyone :) So yesterday we looked at the neuroses, psychoses and maladies of Pilots and those around them. Today's DPP is Historical Pilots (hello, still marking history exams!). I'm pretty sure we've had this one recently, but I swear it was in my calendar before the post in question and as I'm rather in love with the idea, it stays ;)
Which historical period would you place our pilots in? How would they get on there? Would they do a similar sort of job to the one they do in the colonial fleet? How would the constraints of the time affect them?
For example, I could kind of see them in World War Two. Lee would, of course, be a fighter pilot and I imagine Kara working for the Air Transport Auxiliary (yay! a flying job for women in World War II), accidentally coming across a dogfight and saving Lee's skin with some awesome manoeuvre. Or Kara coming up with some way to disguise herself to join the air force proper :)
And if Lee existed in the Napoleonic Wars times I could see him being a Hornblower type - duty and loyalty and sometimes doing the right thing even if it's not exactly straight (like pushing the captain down into the hold). Which leads my brain to wonder if Lee was Hornblower, would Archie be friends with him and still die to protect him as he did in Hornblower (Retribution?) first by taking bullet and then by claiming that Hornblower's crime was his own as he was going to die anyway. Oh god my brain...</sidetrackking tangent>
Feel free to drabble or just throw out there/discuss your thoughts on our pilots in Earth's history :D
.png "S01E05 You Can't Go Home Again")
Which historical period would you place our pilots in? How would they get on there? Would they do a similar sort of job to the one they do in the colonial fleet? How would the constraints of the time affect them?
For example, I could kind of see them in World War Two. Lee would, of course, be a fighter pilot and I imagine Kara working for the Air Transport Auxiliary (yay! a flying job for women in World War II), accidentally coming across a dogfight and saving Lee's skin with some awesome manoeuvre. Or Kara coming up with some way to disguise herself to join the air force proper :)
And if Lee existed in the Napoleonic Wars times I could see him being a Hornblower type - duty and loyalty and sometimes doing the right thing even if it's not exactly straight (like pushing the captain down into the hold). Which leads my brain to wonder if Lee was Hornblower, would Archie be friends with him and still die to protect him as he did in Hornblower (Retribution?) first by taking bullet and then by claiming that Hornblower's crime was his own as he was going to die anyway. Oh god my brain...</sidetrackking tangent>
Feel free to drabble or just throw out there/discuss your thoughts on our pilots in Earth's history :D
.png "S01E05 You Can't Go Home Again")
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Just for fun, I wrote some (barely researched) historical drabbles myself a few months ago: Five histories and one present (http://rachelindeed.livejournal.com/10716.html).
Wisteria once wrote a beautiful drabble setting Kara and Lee (Karla and Josef) in Germany during the Third Reich - I can't find the link to it, but I'll keep looking.
Your entry (with "The Great Escape" soundtrack) makes me wish for that particular AU. Can't you see Lee devising ingenious ways to hide the dirt from the tunnels they're digging? Kara in hack bouncing the pyramid ball? Kara jumping the motorcycle? And the daring night of the escape: "Brace yourself, Adama, you're twenty feet short." Tyrol could be the claustrophobic Tunnel King. I like it.
:)
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Giggling at the thought of anyone even thinking of calling Kara "demure" :D
I loved them all :)
Wisteria once wrote a beautiful drabble setting Kara and Lee (Karla and Josef) in Germany during the Third Reich - I can't find the link to it, but I'll keep looking.
Ooh, please do because that sounds like a really interesting concept :)
Your entry (with "The Great Escape" soundtrack) makes me wish for that particular AU.
That didn't even occur to me when I first typed this entry but now I wonder how I could have missed it - it's almost too perfect. You have all the roles there down to a t, but especially Kara's. It's just so her.
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Klara and Josef drabble (http://users.livejournal.com/wisteria_/1003615.html#cutid3) by wisteria.
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I really like that scenario. And how like Kara to say what she thought regardless of the danger and consequences.
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walkingdriving in to an ambush? Though seeing them go out in a hail of bullets together wouldn't be any worse than what Canon does to them ;)no subject
Actually I wouldn't have minded a canon ending that had Lee and Kara go out in a hail of bullets kind of fitting actually. My beef with the poof is more about shoddy writing and abandoning Lee than it does about a 'happy ending'. If Lee had also been dead, Kara going 'poof' would have been much less painful.
Although I agree that I can't imagine them driving into an ambush. Not unless they wanted to. ;)
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Yes, I've always thought so - I kept saying on Monday's DPP comments that I would prefer that Kara's death, and Lee's presumed death were more meaningful. I could have lived with meaningful deaths.
Although I agree that I can't imagine them driving into an ambush. Not unless they wanted to. ;)
I can't help thinking that even if they did end up in an ambush Kara'd pull some crazy manoeuvre and they'd escape anyway. Maybe they'd drive into the ambush to liven up a boring afternoon? ;)
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Right, that would've been great. I can see the look when they realize that this is IT. A bit of a smile, a small nod of the head and then the same thing they always do, fight them until they can't. That's a hero's ending for both of them. Which is fitting because they were the action heroes of the series.
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That final scene in the field would have been flat as hell on paper. But what left me convinced that despite its ending, it really was pilots all the way, was the look on Kara's face when she realised she was about to poof - she didn't look happy, she looked heartbroken. I always thought the lack of a proper goodbye was because she didn't trust herself to hold it together in front of Lee the way she did in front of Bill. It wasn't because he didn't mean enough to her, it was because he meant too much.
*sigh* I wouldn't have minded them going down together, either. But I'll take whatever tiny scraps of consolation I can dredge up from canon/make up in my head, especially since pilots have RUINED me for any other ship, ever.
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YES. PLEASE.
cheers.
--Lex
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Plus Kara dressed like Fay Dunaway from the movie! And Lee in a hat! With guns!!!
(There is nothing not good here.)
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P.S. How gorgeous was Faye Dunaway in that movie? I mean, look at her!
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Yes. Yes she is. An absolute style icon in that film.
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Short description: it's like Hornblower with dragons. Specifically, with dragons forming an air force.(you see WHY it's perfection, now?)
Oh, and better yet, the deadliest acid-spitting dragons in the English Air Corps will only accept female captains (EVEN BETTER, DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SEEING HERE?) , who wear men's clothes and serve in absolute secrecy because it'd cause a scandal if the public ever found out about women fighting, when the women in question are every bit as jockish and badass as the men, and occasionally wear their hair cropped short like a certain Viper pilot we all know.
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O/T: Would you mind if I add you as a friend? :)
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If you're getting any of the books, try the first two, they're totally worth it. And I don't mind friending at all, though my journal contains fuck-all :).
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I will add, Jamie Bamber is exactly the person who came to my mind for the role of the series human protagonist, a blond ex-Navy captain who's very sweet and proper and ethical like a certain other Viper pilot we all know, but I'd so much rather see Lee and Kara in that story, it would fit them beautifully if we get our heads around the idea that they're flying dragons instead of Vipers.
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\o/
if we get our heads around the idea that they're flying dragons instead of Vipers.
I don't find that too much of a stretch actually :)
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And I'd like to see Kara flying a dragon, and developing a relationship with one even (dragons and their captains tend to get very close). Like I said, it's perfect for them.
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ooh! I think it would be cool to have them in Louisiana or Chicago during Prohibiton, Kara could run booze and Lee could be a public prosecutor who's a stick in the mud but who also likes to listen to Jazz, and they could spat and banter and be adorable. Yeah, that would be cool...
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Yes? :D
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I'd also like to send them to New Orleans in the past, I've never been but it seems like the kind of city that might make a huge impression on Lee if he was an outsider and Kara lived there. I like your Chicago 1920s idea better, though - it seems more plausible for them.
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Besides, bantery pilots in the 1920s feel so like a possibility. And I can totally see pilots getting into some sticky situations and getting out of them together, esp. with Lee possibly being a war vet who might or might not have PTSD.
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I like the PTSD idea, I was thinking maybe he'd have a secret drinking problem because of his daddy issues (you know he has daddy issues), but the PTSD is good also.
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I love AU pilots.
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**snuggles AU**
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