DPP: Oh, No, They Didn't (ONTD)

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Well, shippers, this is my last DPP for this week. Thank you all for so much squeeing, thinking, and commenting with me. Driving this train is fantastic. *MWUH*

Now, onto the business at hand. Most of the week has been devoted to squeeable topics like UST, eyefrakking, outmaking, and birthday celebrations. Today, I'm bringing a little more angst to the mix.

There were countless opportunities for Kara and Lee to finally talk about their feelings and to straighten their shit out. Seems, though, every time they tried, something got in the way: Fate, Timing, Frakked up Missions to Caprica, Personal History, Guilt, Death, you know, the small stuff.

So my questions boils down to this: What are the most significant (or just your favorite) moments in the show where TPTB prevent our pilots from achieving their happily ever after? I don't mean RDM's late-series character annihilation, but instead the legitimate, even clever ways that the show kept us watching our pilots, just to see if they'd ever figure things out.

What were the moments that made you want to throw something at the TV (but also gave you that "oooh, this oughtta be good" smile)?

And let's keep it nice, shippers. This is intended to be both squeeable and angsty (if that's possible). Here is one of my favorites (in stills - my gif of this scene is broken):


Jealous!Lee...
  
  

Later....
  
 
 

AND THEN KARA GOES TO CAPRICA. HOLY FRAKKING LORDS OF KOBOL. Laura and her frakking prophecies, Lee and his too-angry-to-admit he's jealous. And "Gaius Frakking Baltar???" AAAAGGGGHHHH. Pilots, why do you do this to me???

What say you, shippers?

Comments

[somewhereapart.livejournal.com]

I think you may be right about it being my longest comment ever. lol I blame the Advil PM for lulling my brain into a bit of a ramble.

As for it being out of character for Kara to proposition him with Zak right there, while I don't disagree, I think that part of the point of that was to show how much everything else falls away for the two of them when they're together. I really think that until the glass broke and he woke up, both Lee and Kara had completely forgotten Zak was in the room, hell they may have been so caught up in the booze and each other that they forgot he existed in the first place. They really only have eyes for each other, those two.

[callmeonetrack.livejournal.com]

That part of it is appealing, I think it's just the crude and inelegant way they set it up. Like a dare. Not romantic, nothing about their actual feelings, just like she was daring him to play pyramid with her or something. I put it down to Ron going back to his show bible and trying to portray the Apollo/Starbuck relationship as this match between hot-blooded viper jocks (and on Kara's side--he's always had this thing about making her be promiscuous), which doesn't account for everything else they are (and esp. everything Lee is/isn't). His comments about wanting someone more jock-ish for the Apollo role in the Daybreak commentary have colored my perception maybe. But I think he wasn't really thinking about his characters and they way they had come to life so much as the initial idea of them that he had...and not taking into account that the actors portrayed it differently maybe.

[somewhereapart.livejournal.com]

Yes, see, having an initial idea of what you want for your characters is all well and good, but you can't just go back 4 seasons later and give them a motivation for their behavior that the actors haven't been factoring in as they've played the parts. That just really never works. It seems forced, and off.

And yes, just propositioning him like that may be a bit out of character. But it's also maybe a safety net kind of proposition -- if he says no, you can always say you were joking, of COURSE you were joking, WHO would dare their fiance's brother to frak and actually MEAN it. And if he goes for it, you get what you want, and maintain the illusion of it all being casual.

(And this is me, trying to justify canon and find ways to make it woooorrrrkkk. lol)