DPP: Oh, No, They Didn't (ONTD)

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Well, shippers, this is my last DPP for this week. Thank you all for so much squeeing, thinking, and commenting with me. Driving this train is fantastic. *MWUH*

Now, onto the business at hand. Most of the week has been devoted to squeeable topics like UST, eyefrakking, outmaking, and birthday celebrations. Today, I'm bringing a little more angst to the mix.

There were countless opportunities for Kara and Lee to finally talk about their feelings and to straighten their shit out. Seems, though, every time they tried, something got in the way: Fate, Timing, Frakked up Missions to Caprica, Personal History, Guilt, Death, you know, the small stuff.

So my questions boils down to this: What are the most significant (or just your favorite) moments in the show where TPTB prevent our pilots from achieving their happily ever after? I don't mean RDM's late-series character annihilation, but instead the legitimate, even clever ways that the show kept us watching our pilots, just to see if they'd ever figure things out.

What were the moments that made you want to throw something at the TV (but also gave you that "oooh, this oughtta be good" smile)?

And let's keep it nice, shippers. This is intended to be both squeeable and angsty (if that's possible). Here is one of my favorites (in stills - my gif of this scene is broken):


Jealous!Lee...
  
  

Later....
  
 
 

AND THEN KARA GOES TO CAPRICA. HOLY FRAKKING LORDS OF KOBOL. Laura and her frakking prophecies, Lee and his too-angry-to-admit he's jealous. And "Gaius Frakking Baltar???" AAAAGGGGHHHH. Pilots, why do you do this to me???

What say you, shippers?

Comments

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Why the hell would Kara take the trouble to FOLD AWAY the part of her finace's brother so she didn't have to look at him? You don't fold random pictures of random people. That's something you do with exes, with bad breakups, with people you still have feelings for but don't want to deal with.

I guess the folded picture would say it all for me if I thought that RDM had always planned for them to have some kind of secret history. Was that something he said sometime? In a podcast or outtake? I just have a hard time giving the table!frak so much credence that it rewrites the K/L relationship for the entire series.

[ecstaticdance.livejournal.com]

For me, that folded picture is part of the reason that the table scene makes NO SENSE! Part of it. There were hints and suggestions throughout Season 1 that made it seem like Kara and Lee had rather a lot of history together. The existence of the picture (how the hell did that get taken if they never saw each other again between the dinner and the funeral, btw? Or did he supposedly see them "that weekend" and not again until the funeral? I can't recall), the comment about Kara not being able to keep her hands of "a certain Major", the tension and banter between them in the mini - "Did they kiss your ass to your satisfaction?" "This seems familiar." "Same old Lee.", etc. These two people knew each other, and knew each other well. Sure, you can get a sense of someone from a couple of meetings, but a lot of this was details that wouldn't come up in casual conversation, and neither of them were given to gossip.

Erm. That was rambly.

Anyways, I'm not sure that RDM every said anything specific about Lee/Kara's history before the finale, when he was trying to make his Art. At which point he said there was not a secret history. Maybe my issue is that I need to stop looking for information and puzzle pieces earlier in the show, because maybe that was never how the story was meant to be told. I just can't bring myself to believe that two full seasons of great, cohesive story telling (plus half of another one) were an accident.

[scifishipper.livejournal.com]

Maybe my issue is that I need to stop looking for information and puzzle pieces earlier in the show, because maybe that was never how the story was meant to be told.

Yeah, I can't go back and rewrite the whole thing to link everything to the table!frak - makes me crazy. There is such confusion and inconsistency, I'm not sure it's worth it. I think exploring it all in fic is so-o-o much more interesting than trying to figure out what the hell RDM was smokin'. :)

[cosetteferaud.livejournal.com]

how the hell did that get taken if they never saw each other again between the dinner and the funeral, btw?

I do believe they saw each other after the dinner, actually. My take is that after the mess that was the table thing, they both made a silent pact and never brought out the issue again, like it never happened. And afterwards they became friends. Of course, their attraction always was there, but I can picture both pushing it out of their conscious minds and burying it.

[workerbee73.livejournal.com]

See, and I'm one of those folks that completely (or to the extent I can) blocks out the table flashbacks because they are SO abrupt and out of character. But even without them, the theory still works for me. Just the way they play the relationship in the mini, the hesitatncy-- I mean, Lee comes back from the dead and Kara is bursting with joy but she will only allow herself to shake his hand??? Seriously???-- the forced restraint there always strongly implied to me that there was much more to their relationship. That there were feelings and baggage and longing and guilt and deep, deep pain. Else, why would you be so guarded against another person?

Tablefrack, schmablefrak. There was way more going on there than a brief drunken encounter. RDM just wrote his term paper the night before it was due.

[ninjamonkey73.livejournal.com]

Well, while the Cylons allegedly had a plan the whole time, I'm pretty sure RDM didn't. I thought that the Lee/Kara/Zak backstory was intentional (at least as far as there were feelings from when Zak was alive), but I can't remember where I got that.

The picture implies a lot. She didn't cut the Lee part off, which is reasonable if you just want the part with you and your fiance in it. But she also couldn't just deal with him being in the picture as collateral scenery, so she tucked him under- there, but out of sight.

(I love the DPPs, even if I keep getting the hairy eyeball from Mr. Monkey when I start furiously typing on my phone. Qwerty keyboard FTW!)