http://scifishipper.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] scifishipper.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] no_takebacks2010-04-11 12:03 am
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DPP: Oh, No, They Didn't (ONTD)

Well, shippers, this is my last DPP for this week. Thank you all for so much squeeing, thinking, and commenting with me. Driving this train is fantastic. *MWUH*

Now, onto the business at hand. Most of the week has been devoted to squeeable topics like UST, eyefrakking, outmaking, and birthday celebrations. Today, I'm bringing a little more angst to the mix.

There were countless opportunities for Kara and Lee to finally talk about their feelings and to straighten their shit out. Seems, though, every time they tried, something got in the way: Fate, Timing, Frakked up Missions to Caprica, Personal History, Guilt, Death, you know, the small stuff.

So my questions boils down to this: What are the most significant (or just your favorite) moments in the show where TPTB prevent our pilots from achieving their happily ever after? I don't mean RDM's late-series character annihilation, but instead the legitimate, even clever ways that the show kept us watching our pilots, just to see if they'd ever figure things out.

What were the moments that made you want to throw something at the TV (but also gave you that "oooh, this oughtta be good" smile)?

And let's keep it nice, shippers. This is intended to be both squeeable and angsty (if that's possible). Here is one of my favorites (in stills - my gif of this scene is broken):


Jealous!Lee...
  
  

Later....
  
 
 

AND THEN KARA GOES TO CAPRICA. HOLY FRAKKING LORDS OF KOBOL. Laura and her frakking prophecies, Lee and his too-angry-to-admit he's jealous. And "Gaius Frakking Baltar???" AAAAGGGGHHHH. Pilots, why do you do this to me???

What say you, shippers?

[identity profile] rachelindeed.livejournal.com 2010-04-11 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for your lovely comment, it's great to hear your thoughts. I don't think Lee *meant* his words as a goodbye in "Islanded," (his wonderful little smile and "I'll see you around, Kara Thrace" as he walks away definitely end the scene on a wistful, sweet note ~ there's still a sense of possibility). You could interpret the scene in many different ways, all equally meaningful, I think. But for me, since this did turn out to be their goodbye, I look at it and see elements in it that reflect a sense of peace and resolution that could be viewed, in hindsight, as an ending place. I think he was saying that he was all right with where they were, that he was perfectly content just to be alive with her, and that he had learned to set aside any other expectations ~ they'd be fine whether or not any of their possibilities ever came to be. And I think she was accepting of herself, believing in herself as she was, to an extent she never could before. In some ways, that's very hopeful, but in other ways, it's a kind of letting go.

I'm sorry to be always quoting random things, but there is a line from a fanfiction story in a totally unrelated fandom that I associate with this scene: "He forgot why it had ever mattered that he couldn't have her, couldn't actually hold her. The other ways that he had known her love had proved themselves so much more permanent than touch; and they were with him still." It's a kind of parting without parting, maybe...

Anyhow, I'm really done rambling now. Thanks so much for listening :)

[identity profile] cosetteferaud.livejournal.com 2010-04-11 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
he had learned to set aside any other expectations ~ they'd be fine whether or not any of their possibilities ever came to be.

That was pretty much Lee's arc throughout S4, wasn't it? Despite the finale, I love the Lee we got to see afte Kara came back from death.

And I think she was accepting of herself, believing in herself as she was, to an extent she never could before. In some ways, that's very hopeful, but in other ways, it's a kind of letting go.

This is my interpretation, too. But the letting go part makes me so very sad.