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DPP: The Road to Recovery

Hello everyone! Happy to be back on the DPP train after two months of inappropriately busy real life.

It's been nearly four years since the finale that broke our shipping hearts, and I am wondering how you are all feeling about the finale these days? With fandom becoming less busy on the pilot's side, I would like to know where you are on the Pilots Finale Recovery Spectrum?

Pick your number/mood and tell us about it. If you scored high (feeling great!), share your secret. If you scored low (raaaaaaaage!), tell us how we can help!

[I'll be out until late afternoon, so carry on!]

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I'm somewhere between a 0 and 5....maybe a 3.4?

(things descend into 0 territory only if I encounter people who insist that Kara's Great Destiny of Poof was something worthy of her as a character, or that letting her live would have lessened her in some way)

I will say some things help a little - I've always been ok with the table, for one, and even the 'being forgotten' thing sort of makes sense to me as a major fear of Kara's even if its inconsistency with Maelstrom bugs me.....but anyone trying to go 'but she was an ANGEL! So much more worthy than live!Kara!' is going to get this:

Though the main tools for soothing the ache are

1. Fanfic
2. Long wordy meta (mine or someone else's, it doesn't matter) that explains, in painstaking detail or with broad strokes, why exactly Lee Adama and Kara Thrace together are epic and unique and amazing and why even a grand screw-over by the writers and idiotic podcast pronouncements do not make them any less so.

Yes to fic. Meta used to ease my pain, but not so much now. The camaraderie of fandom and the healing power of fic really do it for me.

oh yeah, the fact that there is a shipper fandom to share the devastation with is probably THE biggest help of all.

I don't think I'd have processed things/got past the wailing and heartache if I hadn't found n_t (well, I'm mostly not wailing anymore, but the heartache mostly persists).

I will say the other things that help are having absolute faith that they'll find each other again in the afterlife once Lee gets there, or that they'll get another chance somehow ('all this has happened before, all this will happen again') because I REFUSE to accept that their story ended with her going poof in that damn field.

That and what I call distraction ships - people with lots of angst like pilots, only they turn out well, unlike pilots. Helps because of exactly what it says on the tin - I get distracted and sometimes imagine pilots into that scenario, which is less rage-inducing than canon. (the ones that work best for me were Sif/Loki from Thor and most recently, a kdrama couple who had the whole dead girl/live guy +guaranteed poof going for them too).

Is that KDrama 'Arang and the Magistrate'? It had a much better resolution than BSG.

yes it was!

5 or above? But then again, I probably don't count. :D Not only did I not watch the show until it was over, I didn't start liking K/L until long after I had finished it. So, to me, I just see opportunities to continue the story and bring her back. I'm well aware I'm probably alone in liking the finale and mostly writing post-finale stuff.

I like that you feel less anger about it because you come with a brighter attitude than those who have been devastated. I always feel like your fics have so much hope in them. That's lovely! <3

I don't know that I'll ever really get beyond a 5. :/ I have too many issues with the whole plot starting with Kara's death and slipping fast as the series continues. Although I'm realizing that has more to do with execution, and I thank everyone who likes the final season enough to explain and defend it to me. Actually helps a lot. (Sometimes I almost think about watching it again. ;)

I don't cry just thinking about Lee left alone in that field anymore, recently anyway. That's something.

I don't cry just thinking about Lee left alone in that field anymore, recently anyway. That's something.

There was a really nice line in a tv show I watched a few weeks ago about memories basically giving you the strength to live with sadness, even when they are the reason why you're sad. It's pretty apropos for pilots, and for Lee at the end especially.

I'm with you on rarely surpassing five. I think when I was at Con and heard Jamie and Katee talking about Lee and Kara's ending, I did feel a moment of maybe a seven. That has since faded and now I hover around a five, sometimes a 5.5 if a fic makes me feel particularly okay. It's one of those things that I'll never be quite over. And the anger surges sometimes to a two. That's never pretty.

Edited 2012-10-29 17:17 (UTC)

The first time I ever saw a light inidcating that I might one day not be horribly, horribly angry and betrayed was watching Jamie at the Jules Verne thing, speaking in French. He seemed so good with the ending that I coudl feel hope. And I realize more and more that I'm better with the ending than I am with the road to get there, which is odd but true.

Since I only just watched BSG in its entirety within the last three to four months, I'm still in the aftermath of that ending. Fic helps a lot, as does the decision to see that ridiculous Poof! as a temporary thing. I can think, "OK, she poofed, but then she came back," and I've read plenty of fics that give a good account of that.

Still, I hover between 0 and 5 if I really think about the ending as The End.

yeah, fic is the biggest help (and best distraction).

Not angry. Kind of wistful. Wishing them both peace, I think, and sorry that they didn't manage to work things out in the limited time they were given. But I think their relationship in that last season was beautiful.

Lovely. :) I do wish they'd had more time. That's a nice, non-Ron-hating way to look at it. ((HUGS))

I've had a little bit of the upper hand since the beginning of the end because while Kara and Lee not ending up together felt like a definite slap in the face for a time, I didn't detest everything about the fact that Kara was dead as much as I was sad from the general dropping-the-ball on several aspects of my pilots (not an unpopular opinion, but I don't really voice my anger at the poof specifically if that makes sense). But between a lot of time going by, and getting invested in a different pairing that makes Kare and Lee's story look like When Harry Met Sally (hehh), I'm actually at about a 9.

...who is the other couple? (are they Rob and Cassie? Because oh goodness, do they make you hurt.)

Yes. I don't know if I will ever get over Cassie and Rob (especially since there's less fandom for group crying, LOL).

yeah, I thought In The Woods was bad enough and then The Likeness came along and gutted me even MORE, if that was possible.

Worst is, unlike pilots they don't even get the chance to mend their friendship, like what happened in UB. The lack of resolution will forever bug, and like you said the mini-sized fandom means less group commiseration.

I fluctuate ... Due largely to 1) emotional overload, have to step away and 2) fic . These days I'm around 5. But like a few others I didn't really watch until just after it ended. I still have my moments of a solid 2....

What did J&K say about Lee & Kara's ending? Would love to her that.

Edited 2012-10-30 05:02 (UTC)

About 5.

I think of it as similar to pain caused by the death of someone dear. Although the pain never goes away for good, it does get bearable and with time and choose to focus on the good times rather than the loss. So, distance (and tons of fics) have quietened the pain. If I'm pushed to think about it too much, though, I still get incredibly sad and angry (I'll never be okay with their end and with Kara's death).

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